Katana_Strikes
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Well that's the split inc last gen so if you take that additional 8% out then it's probably the same if not a nose more in the US.
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NPD Sales Results for September 2015 [Up2: Nintendo Numbers]
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Well that's the split inc last gen so if you take that additional 8% out then it's probably the same if not a nose more in the US.
It's the easiest way for international customers to add credit to their alternate US accounts.
But its way higher than what ZhugeEX tweeted that PS4 + XB1 ~ 550K..
I see. That makes sense.
test_account
XP-39C²
Any examples of those game, and how much did they sell?
ethomaz
Banned
Zhuge said it can be more than 550k in another twitter.
MGS4 did not have digital sales, and BTW MGSV it also sold great on Steam.
I love Zhuge and all, but his not ALWAYS right... and like Etho said, he said can be bigger than 550k.
Those are rounded numbers all considering.
Tokyo Game Show started the talk about a potential worldwide PS4 price drop with the Japanese price cut. That likely put a dampener on the PS4 sales in September. On Amazon now all PS4 SKUs are performing very well after the price cut on the October month chart.
Steam numbers are worldwide though. Not to dwarf the steam numbers, 750k in its first month is seriously impressive considering the history of the franchise on PC, but its still a worldwide number versus NA sales on consoles with no idea how to split them up.
Edit: Oh, I'm a few pages late to the discussion
People not in the US taking advantage of the cheaper US digital store.
Edit: bad math
Amazing. Fuck crossgen. Let the PS3 and 360 die already instead of trying to squeeze every last bit of profit out of them.
I'm not sure I understand the math here.
Erf, you're right, sorry: I meant 34% of Steam owners are US based, so 249K sold.
creamsugar
Member
D < 400K with bundle (PS4)
D > 540K without bundle
4: 40%, 1: 42%
D > 540K without bundle
4: 40%, 1: 42%
Wow, Destiny is sold a lot provided that most of it's sales are probably digital.
We actually tried asking cream several times earlier, but never got a reply. The problem is there are currently two estimations and both contradict some of info we have. If the Wii U really sold 85K, that would mean the gap between the PS4 and XB1 is 59K, like in your calculations. However, according to cream, the cumulative gap between the two right now is 862K. In the August NPD, the gap was ~810K, so that would mean an increase of only 52K. That is a contradiction right there. Also, Zhuge said ~550K for both combined.
On the other hand, if we take cream and Zhuge's info, the PS4 sold 300K and the XB1 sold 248K, with the Wii U selling 75K. Now this contradicts Nintendo's statement of "110% increase", which should be 85K-89K. The problem is we don't know which estimation is the more accurate one.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
MGSV is pretty much the reason while japanese games will stay mostly exclusive to Playstation Platforms. I will say KH3 and FFXV will be like 80/20 in favor for PS4.
Past performance does not guarantee future results. Besides, this will be a weird month, what with Halo bundle having charted for a couple of months now. But the top console SKU is a PS4, there is more than one SKU there and the difference between top-PS4 and the only Xbone is rather significant.
Frankly, unless Xbox suddenly rises considerably on the list, I would be surprised if it takes the month.
That's true. But if we use 75k for Wii U, then, the Nintendo PR is just too smashed.
That's should mean only 76% MOM increase, compared to the "near" 110%... and can't be.
I can see 100% increase or so, but if was under 100%, then Nintendo was not gonna say over 100%.
That's why i think we seriusly can't say Wii U is 75k.
travisbickle
Member
My maths says XB1 ~227K to PS4s <400K total. For anyone who thinks sales are close.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
So, I am confused. The gap between PS4 and XB1 is bigger than the assumed 50k ?
Hmm. I understood Creams message that total sales of Destiny expansion is around 940k (bundled copies + non bundled) +digital ofc.
Yep, the problem with this NPD is that Microsoft refused to give any numbers and we have a few sources contradicting Nintendo's PR statement either way. I hope someone will provide a definitive answer.
Last-gen where? It was 72% vs. 22%
TheSlySoul
Member
So < 1.2 million according to data. Wonder what the people gloating about it doing 5 million easy are feeling, ha ha.
Yeah... that said, i think we can use two 2 result?
In my book the result are 340k PS4, 281k XB1, and 85k.
But i understand who doubt it.
ethomaz
Banned
TTK bundle close to 200k? Amazing.
TTK PS4: near 400k with bundles
TTK PS4: near 216k without bundles
That means over 180k PS4 TTK bundles.
chromatic9
Member
Nah. The US is picking up on Soccer and naturally going for FIFA the worlds most popular football game everywhere. Germany is similar to the UK in that FIFA is king. Germany is not a mini US, neither is the UK.
PES has been in the gutter since 2006/7. FIFA has enjoyed being top dog for around 8 years all over Europe and still is
PES was the top dog in the UK and Germany and rest of the EU despite having no license until it went to shit. It's going to need a few more games to overturn 8 years of being in the gutter. I don't think you guys understand how FIFA dominates everywhere for almost a decade now. Slightly higher metacritic for one year ain't going to do shit in Germany. Going to take a few years of good PES games to chip away at the immense popularity of FIFA in Europe.
Also PES has been embarrassing for a number of years. Literally ridiculed. It's taken Konami way too long fix it. Italy and Spain have shown a soft spot for PES during it's bad times, FIFA still dominates there anyway.
TheSlySoul
Member
Sad thing is they will take PES and MGSV underperforming as a sign to leave console games rather than they are a crappy publisher.
Oh well, glad they are gonna lose money specially for insurance.
I don't believe this, I haven't contributed to NPD since becoming a 'New ps4' user because I been all digital and I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only new user to do so.
For the US market it definitely was a good call to do a TTK bundle instead of MGS V.
travisbickle
Member
I didn't think he knew digital?
I read it as
PS4 version total (bundle + non-bundle) < 400K
PS4 - bundle + XB1 + 360 + PS3 > 540K
XB1 (42% of 540K) ~227K
PS4 - bundle (40% of 540K) ~216K
Total sales ~724K
That's how I read it too.
First statement PS4 only, second statement all platforms, meaning in total PS4 sold much more TTK than Xbox One when bundles are included, Xbox One sold slightly more 42% vs 40% without bundles.
Nintendo has never exaggerated that much in PR's.
These numbers are the best so far.
From a financial standpoint they are making the correct move. The PES and MGSV sales are a perfect example why.
They are in business to make money.
As a gamer, it sucks but I see their decision for what it is
Agreed.
Yeah we and Cream(?) wont know digital, I added that there. I may be wrong with my assumptions as I see:
Bundle as PS4 + game <400k
Nonbundle = game in all platforms 540k where PS4 is 40%
-> <400k + 40% of 540k = 216k copies
Total PS4 game = <400k + 216k = <616k copies sold to PS4
^^
Funny how differently one can see numbers (Iam prolly wrong)
jmaine_ph
Member
My brain hurts.
Yeah we and Cream(?) wont know digital, I added that there. I may be wrong with my assumptions as I see:
Bundle as PS4 + game <400k
Nonbundle = game in all platforms 540k where PS4 is 40%
-> <400k + 40% of 540k = 216k copies
Total PS4 game = <400k + 216k = <616k copies sold to PS4
^^
Funny how differently one can see numbers (Iam prolly wrong)
He wouldn't write "with bundle", if the <400k was only the bundle. So it's <400k for bundle + game, retail only of course.
You are right. I made assumption that PS4 Bundle game and non bundle game are two different skus and they both have to count to total numbers.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I expect FF and KH to be even more slanted towards PS4.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
80/20 is my bet.