proandrad
Member
You just weren’t the target audience. FF16 is a JRPG lite made to attract new fans to the genre. It was a smash hit for people new to the series and those just wanting a rollercoaster ride. Rebirth is probably more your jam.
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Nvidia Adds Final Fantasy XVI Game-Ready Drivers - Announcement / Release Soon?
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touchfuzzy
Member
Rebirth is a way better game but I also have some grievances with it too. Square really just need to do a "back to basics" FF. It's dumb to make a "JRPG lite to attract new fans" with your sixteenth franchise installment.
proandrad
Member
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I loved Remake but hated rebirth. Rebirth is too long with too many side quest and I’m absolutely not fan of any of the mini games.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Look at what Larian accomplished with BG3. Old school CRPG through and through, but feels modern and fresh. Sold a gazillion copies and won GOTY. I lost all hope for FF with FFXV. These games all stink.
diffusionx
Gold Member
PC gamers should keep their excitement about this to a minimum
kazuyamishima
Member
Great game and good that more people will experience it.
But is this another game that will go with “it runs like ass on the PS5” to “Smooth experience at 30fps and 720p on Steam Deck”??
But is this another game that will go with “it runs like ass on the PS5” to “Smooth experience at 30fps and 720p on Steam Deck”??
wizaga
Neo Member
I beg to differ good sir. But you have the right to your opinion. Me personaly loved the game.
proandrad
Member
tommib
Member
This will never run on a Steam Deck.
ssringo
Member
I mean, I wouldn't touch it but maybe some people would enjoy indistinguishable blobs of pixels smacking other indistinguishable blobs of pixels at a choppy framerate.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Well I'm just glad people have at least stopped complaining about 'why isn't it turn based' and are willing to play it now.
proandrad
Member
Not saying it did bad, I’m sure it did great for a CRPG on console. But what is a good sales number for a CRPG on a console? I would assume anything over million would beat shatter expectations. I would bet, FF16 probably either matched or beat BG3 sales on PS5.
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//DEVIL//
Member
That’s why I said it was me personally. I don’t like soul games lol
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
What’s your point? It sold an absolute ton on PC and still regularly has 100k concurrent players on Steam. I would bet good money BG3 on PC alone outsold FFXVI with less budget and way less marketing.
It’s a game made for PC first and foremost but like I said they stuck to their roots and made something that feels fresh but also plays like an old school CRPG. Rather than go down this road Square seems dead set on turning FF into a 2nd rate action series because they think a turn based game won’t sell.
Like if you watched someone playing 10 mins of FFXV you wouldn’t know it was an FF game unless they were on a chocobo.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
This game is so divisive I'm not even sure I would day 1 it on PC. At a deep discount maybe?
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The game you're looking for is called Octopath Traveler
It's sold pretty well but hasn't done crazy numbers like Final Fantasy. If you were in a coma since the 90s and just woke up, and didn't know the title of the game, you'd think this was the newest Final Fantasy game.
proandrad
Member
I’m not even sure what your point was, because I was originally talking how F16 was trying to bring in new players to the franchise and then you brought up sales. I’m asking if you have any clue how those numbers breakdown, because if BG3 sold 4million on PS5 that could mean a massive success for them whereas another company would think it’s a failure. Pretty sure FF16 sold at least that on PS5.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
My point was Larian made a game from an old franchise that stayed true to its roots and had great success with it, while Square is trying to turn FF into shitty action games and has not been very successful. You are the one talking about sales. FFXVI came and went like a fart in the wind and wasn’t even nominated for GOTY.
proandrad
Member
This seems highly personal to you, who hurt you?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Square Enix hurt me by pissing away a once great franchise
Revolutionary
Member
Nothing says "roller coaster ride" like a series of sleep-inducing MMO side quests after exciting moments in the story.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Everyone chomping at the bit to buy this game: would you be willing to buy it if it's Epic Games Store exclusive? Because it's totally going to be EGS exclusive.
asdasdasdbb
Member
I don't think it will be. Mainly because Epic wouldn't pay.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Epic doesn't have to pay for exclusivity under their new program. Developers take home 88% of each transaction (as opposed to 70% of each transaction on Steam). On a $70 game, that's $12.60 extra in their pocket for each sale. This is for all games, even if they're not exclusive to Epic.
Epic also has a program where if you launch your game exclusively on Epic then you keep 100% of the sales transactions for the first six months (after which time, your exclusivity contract ends). That would give them an extra $21 per sale vs launching on Steam. Honestly, the smart business move is to launch this way on Epic first, then on Steam when the exclusivity deal runs dry. You'll even get a certain cross section of people who will double-dip.
Square likes money, and I'm sure their pencil pushers probably don't even know the difference between Epic and Steam. The last few big Final Fantasy games on PC (Remake and Strangers of Paradise) both launched as EGS exclusives for this reason.
There was some sort of "insider leak" on Resetera a few weeks back, someone claiming to be an insider saying it wouldn't be exclusive - but I think they were probably full of shit. I guess time will tell.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
It fell short of their sales goal so I guess that didn’t work out so well.
Haint
Member
They already missed to boat, game is old as dirt and won't even amount to a gnat's fart in the deluge of new Fall/Holiday releases. Hope the meager Sony peanuts money hat was worth the millions of sells they'll ultimately lose to the nearly 2 year long delay. Get fucked Square.
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Shake Your Rump
Member
I've always said this game is 20 minutes of the most amazing shit you have ever seen, followed by 2 hours of the most boring slog possible, repeated over the span of 60 hours.
Anyone who will be playing it for the first time on PC... I strongly suggest tempering your expectations (or buying something else).
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Skifi28
Member
Where did all those millions of sales disappear to? Either they bought it on the platform available (so it already sold well) or waited until it got a port and will buy it now. People don't suddenly lose interest in a game because it's a year old. If nobody buys it now on PC, they probably wouldn't have bought it on day one either. You just sound angry.
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I'm fine with that.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I strongly suspect it started out as some DMC-style spinoff that would’ve been just the linear story missions + boss battles. Then they decided to rework it into a mainline game, and all the other stuff was added to justify calling it Final Fantasy XVI.
You can really tell the parts their budget + passion went into, vs the painfully boring “just give em some RPG shit to do” parts
ssringo
Member
Not that I think they'll go down that road again but
I'm not creating an account to buy 1 game. Or if you want include it's entire existence, 1 game every few years.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Midn1ght
Member
I wouldn't be surprise one bit if they choose to go Epic Exclusive again BUT I think FF7 Remake numbers on EGS and the recent release of Kingdom Hearts on Steam which did very well apparently is probably enough for them to go "Yeah, we should stop that Epic exclusive shit".
But again, it's Square Enix so...
Nickolaidas
Member
Depends. Definitely not buying FFVI on EGS, but I may buy Rebirth if I can't fucking wait any more.
I think it all depends in what deals they signed and when. If they signed those deals before they claimed they're 'pulling out of the exclusive deals' fiasco, then I don't see anything changing for the next two-three years. If those port deals were later after, we probably will see FFVI on Steam much sooner. And who knows? Perhaps we'll see FF7 part 3 on Steam day one alongside the PS5/6 version.
Denton
Member
Didn't their new CEO recently announce that they are changing strategy and are going full multiplatform instead of playing exclusivity game?
I assume that will mean Steam day one too because that is where most sales are. I highly doubt their EGS exclusives would in any way be profitable without Epic significantly moneyhatting them. 100% of near zero is still 100% of near zero.
I would almost be willing to bet that FF16 will be on Steam day one. But...it is still Squeenix so any degree of stupidity is possible.
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TrebleShot
Member
Game was essentially too big for the PS5, brought it to its knees in perf mode.
Shifty1897
Member
Some of the highest highs in any video game ever, but those lows are all the more painful because of it.
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GametimeUK
Member
I was enjoying this game, but had to set it aside and wait for the PC version. 30fps just isn't it on PS5.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
A " SMASH HIT" ? lol. MK8 is a smash hit, hogwarts legacy is a smash hit...
FF16 is a very high budget game that barely scraped by.
Nickolaidas
Member
MK8? Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe? Didn't that bankrupt Midway?
JimboJones
Member
Probably Mario Kart 8.
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Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
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