-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Official 2004 Summer Olympics Thread
- Thread starter Greekboy
- Start date
- Status
Does anyone know who that is and what event she's in? That's a great pic and inquiring minds need to know!Error Macro said:I must contribute:
I don't give a rat's patoot about the olympics, but I would watch whatever event that is, all freaking day.
As for the basketball game. It's pathetic (though Argentina is playing well). It looks like the US will be owned by 9-12 points. They can't seem to get past that barrier. The 3 point shooting is a disaster, though that's the way it's been every other game. I can't believe those players can't make those shots.
This team would be great if it were for an AND-1 tour.
I'd pay to see that.
But these guys just can't SHOOT!
Streaky yes ... but defibnately not constant ... they are very althetic but that will only take you so far, you cant open the defence up that way and break the zone.
As Reggie Miller said ... " IT's TWENTY FRIGGIN FEET !!! "
free throws have been the undoing of them (team U.S) in several games.
Fundamentals have sadly taken a back seat.
I'd pay to see that.
But these guys just can't SHOOT!
Streaky yes ... but defibnately not constant ... they are very althetic but that will only take you so far, you cant open the defence up that way and break the zone.
As Reggie Miller said ... " IT's TWENTY FRIGGIN FEET !!! "
free throws have been the undoing of them (team U.S) in several games.
Fundamentals have sadly taken a back seat.
MASB said:That's the way to sink those threes Jefferson!
Ref: "Foul? What foul? Just because Marbury took his head off, that isn't a foul! Oh well, alright." *blows whistle*
lol @ the stupid fans too, that not being called a foul actually would have helped Argentina.
Well, it's too bad the US lost. I mean, I was down on them because of their playing, but it's still bad that they lost. But maybe this will be a wakeup call for them to take it more seriously, to train together as a team longer or whatever needs to be done. Spain played well, but the US didn't play its best as well. So many missed shots really did us in. Plus the refs were pretty bad, though I guess both teams were affected by that, not just the US.
I hate to say wakeup call, since so many of the US team members said that when they lost those two earlier games.
I hate to say wakeup call, since so many of the US team members said that when they lost those two earlier games.
no its not too bad, you first have to admit you suck before you can change it up.
Next time, send better players and not people who are on because Stu Jackson is worried about shoe contracts and hold grudges against other players.
The second thing is FORCE the players to relearn the fundies of basketball.
Next time, send better players and not people who are on because Stu Jackson is worried about shoe contracts and hold grudges against other players.
The second thing is FORCE the players to relearn the fundies of basketball.
Ripclawe said:
The thing is it was a no-brainer for the US to pick the biggest stars they could get; it went with their marketing and if they had picked guys better-suited to the game, like e.g. Michael Redd, US sportswriters and fans alike would have flipped. Hopefully they'll learn for next time though.
:\
I love how people were talking about Starbury turning the corner yesterday and FINALLY getting the job done. How he and the team had finally learned the international game.
I didn't watch the game, nor have I watched any since the US/Lithuania game a few days ago.
It's Texans season
I love how people were talking about Starbury turning the corner yesterday and FINALLY getting the job done. How he and the team had finally learned the international game.
I didn't watch the game, nor have I watched any since the US/Lithuania game a few days ago.
It's Texans season
BlackClouds
Member
about to lose my goddamn mind, this fucking sucks. I hope the US volleyball team can come thru and upset some folks. That's the only thing that can erase that nightmare. US basektball couldn't stop Argentina from scoring for shit. Damn near every possession, like it was a damn videogame.
Ninja Scooter
Member
i discovered my new favoite olympic event last night...SPEEDWALKING!
If by "great shooter" you mean "shot the league average in 2003-4," then yeah, maybe. (Bryant shot 43.8% in the regular season; the league average was 43.9%.) If by "great shooter" you mean "shot worse than the league average behind the three-point line," then yeah, maybe. (32.7% for Kobe; 34.7% for the league.)Cloudy said:
But who cares about that regular season junk? I mean, the playoffs is where it counts, right? Surely the Olympics can't rival the pressure of an NBA postseason...I mean, those pussy Olympics are one-and-done past the qualifying round, but in the NBA, you can lose as many as three times before you go home! So how does our Kobe do in the postseason? 41.3% from the field, and an abysmal 24.7% from the three-point line. Nice to know he can step up when it really counts.
Better than anyone else on the team? Well, the outside shooting on the team WAS pretty bad. But Shawn Marion boasts a better percentage than Bryant from the three-point line, and from the field overall.
Feel free to stop sniffing Kobe's jock now.
OMG, I'm really tired of arguing with folks who don't watch hoops regularly and just look up stats on NBA.com and try to make a point (Hi, Archaix )
If you're seriously gonna compare Kobe shooting bad while being doubled by the best defensive team in the league to how he would abuse ANY and EVERY body on the teams who beat us (who were leaving everyone open except Duncan), I have nothing else to say. And mentioning Shawn fucking Marion in the same breath as Kobe is ridiculous.
PS: you might wanna look up who owns the NBA record for threes in a game while you're browsing NBA.com
) If you're seriously gonna compare Kobe shooting bad while being doubled by the best defensive team in the league to how he would abuse ANY and EVERY body on the teams who beat us (who were leaving everyone open except Duncan), I have nothing else to say. And mentioning Shawn fucking Marion in the same breath as Kobe is ridiculous.
PS: you might wanna look up who owns the NBA record for threes in a game while you're browsing NBA.com
You don't know shit about how much basketball I watch, so I suggest you keep your conjecture to yourself.Cloudy said:OMG, I'm really tired of arguing with folks who don't watch hoops regularly and just look up stats on NBA.com and try to make a point (Hi, Archaix
If you're seriously gonna compare Kobe shooting bad while being doubled by the best defensive team in the league to how he would abuse ANY and EVERY body on the teams who beat us (who were leaving everyone open except Duncan), I have nothing else to say. And mentioning Shawn fucking Marion in the same breath as Kobe is ridiculous.
Despite what you might want to believe, statistics kept over the course of a season are pretty decent indicators about what a player can do. As for the playoff stats, those were his COMBINED playoff stats. If I was ONLY quoting the Detroit series, he would have looked MUCH worse. (Hint: 17% three-point shooting.) You made the claim that Kobe would have been clearly better than anyone else they sent, and it's simply not true.
If you don't think that the other Olympic teams couldn't figure out how to guard both Kobe AND Duncan, you're crazy. It didn't take rocket science to figure out how to beat the Lakers, right? Guard the hell out of Shaq AND Kobe, and watch the other stiffs screw up. Also, if you think that Kobe wouldn't have been subjected to the same tight foul calls that doomed Duncan in most games, you're even crazier.
In order to be successful, the U.S. team would have required SEVERAL outside shooters and a commitment to team offense and defense. Kobe is a streaky outside shooter at best, and his commitment to "team" is shaky as hell. His presence on that team would have made little to no difference. Whether your fanboy goggles can see that is another story entirely.
RobotChant
Member
I never bought into the "they suck, but they should win" line. I was still rooting for them, but they didn't show me anything that would lead me to believe they would pull it all together. After the win against Spain, I thought some of players would get a confidence boost from it, but I sensed they were going to string a bad game together with their good game.
At least we sent Gasol packing, now if we can get the bronze-- sad as it may be-- that'd be the icing on cake.
At least we sent Gasol packing, now if we can get the bronze-- sad as it may be-- that'd be the icing on cake.
Maybe so but you have to look at other things too. Like the competition and play-style. Looking at Marbury's season stats, you'd think he'd be dominating every game but he obviously didn't. Besides yesterday, he's been totally worthless. Why? Cos he is completely lost in a half court game and that is what most of the teams they faced tried to force on them...
The way these teams have been guarding the US, they all just pack the lane and let the other guys besides Duncan shoot. You can't do that with even ONE inside-outside threat to go along with the big-guy and keep the defense honest.
Wrong. The problem with this team wasn't outside shooting. It was shooting period. Forget 3 pt shots, if they could hit 2 pt fgs that weren't layups or dunks, they would be winning. Tim Duncan + slashers and tweeners is NOT a very hard team to beat. And the way they've been beating us is with perimeter shooting. Notice how Spain couldn't win yesterday? It's cos they don't have crazy shooters that we had to guard. There is no shutdown perimeter defender on this olympic team and that is the biggest problem. Hell, even Ron Artest would have made a difference...
That "commitment to team" shit is just media propaganda. What this team needed was an inside-outside threat, perimeter defense and leadership. Kobe (even Tmac) would have provided all this and they would have won.
Both of them made mistakes. It looked like Marion Jones was on her last breath as she was getting to Williams and was slowing down. Williams should have slowed down a bit and looked behind her to make sure she got the baton when she didn't get it right away. At any rate, it looks like Jones wasn't in her peak condition for these Olympics. Too bad, unless the drug allegations are true, then I guess maybe not so bad. The Russian women did a great job in the long jump competition, that's for sure.
Lebron James: "No I'm not disappointed. A little shocked is all. Not disappointed."
Lebron James: "No I'm not disappointed. A little shocked is all. Not disappointed."
BigJonsson
Member
CANADA WINS GOLD IN K1 500M KAYAKING!!!!
ADAM VAN KOEVERDEN!
BRONZE YESTERDAY, GOLD TODAY
Finally something to cheer about
ADAM VAN KOEVERDEN!
BRONZE YESTERDAY, GOLD TODAY
Finally something to cheer about
Oh yeah, let me point out a point I made that no one harped on. It's amazing how quickly the euros picked up on the bitchy NBA attitude that has made the league almost unwatchable. It's also amazing at how little of that attitude that the US team has showed in these Olympics, which makes me very happy. On one hand, you've got the Spaniard (sounds like a dirty word, but it isn't) coach crying and moaning because of a late timeout. On the other hand, you've got an Argentine dunking on the US with one second left. Only one team cried cause they lost.
In four years, hopefully we'll give them a LOT more to cry about. We've just gotta find our way again, and get Stu Jackson to go back to Ohio State or Davidson or whatever will take him out of competative basketball.
In four years, hopefully we'll give them a LOT more to cry about. We've just gotta find our way again, and get Stu Jackson to go back to Ohio State or Davidson or whatever will take him out of competative basketball.
Aside from the fact that the US lost, which no one REALLY wanted to happen, no matter what they say (myself included)...
You have to laugh at the fact that Jefferson got Jefferson'd by the Argentine with 1 second left. :lol
He did the whole "OMG LOOK BASKET OPEN SLAM DUNK TIIIIME RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRRGGHHHH!!!" thing that RJeff has down to perfection. Sweet Sweet Irony of Mine, I'm gonna let it shine.
You have to laugh at the fact that Jefferson got Jefferson'd by the Argentine with 1 second left. :lol
He did the whole "OMG LOOK BASKET OPEN SLAM DUNK TIIIIME RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRRRRRGGHHHH!!!" thing that RJeff has down to perfection. Sweet Sweet Irony of Mine, I'm gonna let it shine.
Guileless
Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
Does anyone appreciate the irony that one of our "Olympic" athletes just appeared on the cover of a game like NBA Ballers, where the goal is to pusure extravagant individual material wealth rather than to win basketball games?
Do we need any other commentary on the state of the game and professional sports in this country in general?
Do we need any other commentary on the state of the game and professional sports in this country in general?
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Poll