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Official Presidential Debate 2004 Thread

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MetatronM

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Yeah. I mean, look at how quickly Kerry threw out the answer to this question.

Kerry sounds like he has his shit together while Bush seems confused and unprepared. Not good for a sitting President.
 
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MetatronM

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I'm sorry...did Bush just say they had $35 million invested in nuclear proliferation?


Ouch...missile defense. Not a great card to pull.
 
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Ripclawe

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Kerry's answer was at least decent on Darfur
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"Yes it is a genocide. Many of us are pressing for action." But do it through the African Union. Give 'em logistical support. But we're overextended. That's why I want to make the Army bigger.
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We are already giving them logistical support and the most money so far. It a bullshit answer based on the fact most people don't know what is going on in Darfur in the first place.
 
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goodcow

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He's COMPLETELY ignored the bunker buster nuclear bombs question. Kerry should've tried to grill him on that again with a 30 second extension.
 
Phoenix

Phoenix

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I think Bush is right on the bilatteral talks. I think the 6 party talks make more sense and again Bush STILL MISSES A GREAT REBUTTAL!

You want to do things with others yet you want bilatteral talks!
 
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DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
"The president said the enemy attacked us.... Iraq didn't attack us, Osama Bin Laden did.... "

"Look I know Osama bin Laden attacked us..."

And then he never followed up to explain why all the sudden Bin Laden who he previously said WAS of major importance now suddenly wasn't...

OWN3D
 
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MetatronM

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We are already giving them logistical support and the most money so far. It a bullshit answer based on the fact most people don't know what is going on in Darfur in the first place.
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But Bush did NOT say such things in his rebuttal. That is Bush's own failing, NOT Kerry being so devious and shifty.

Anyway, Bush's response about Putin was pretty good. He seemed more comfortable about that question and gave a pretty good and clear answer. First genuinely good response Bush has given in a while now.
 
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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Phoenix said:
I think Bush is right on the bilatteral talks. I think the 6 party talks make more sense and again Bush STILL MISSES A GREAT REBUTTAL!

You want to do things with others yet you want bilatteral talks!
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Indeed. Not quite consistent with the whole 'work with numerous nations' ploy.

MetatronM said:
I'm sorry...did Bush just say they had $35 million invested in nuclear proliferation?
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No, he said that his administration had increased funding by 35% with regard to preventing nuclear proliferation.
 
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MetatronM

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Dan said:
MetatronM[I'm sorry...did Bush just say they had $35 million invested in nuclear proliferation?/QUOTE said:
No, he said that his administration had increased funding by 35% with regard to preventing nuclear proliferation.
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Ok. I just genuinely didn't hear the whole sentence. :D
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MetatronM

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Ok. Kerry DEFINITELY won that debate by a WIDE margin.

THAT SAID...I doubt it will result in much of a boost in the polls, if any at all.
 
Phoenix

Phoenix

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Bush lost this debate for certain. Bush had some strong moments for certain, but Kerry owned him for much of it. Bush looked confused, thirsty and frustrated.
 
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Makura

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Bush could have done much better but he didn't fumble the ball the way the Kerry camp needed him to.

Mainstream media: "Kerry on the rebound!!"
Editor: "Really? You got proof?"
Mainstram media: "No! Run the stroy anyway! - Kerry on the rebound!!"
Editor: "But..."
Mainstream media: "KERRY ON THE REBOUND!!!!"
 
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MetatronM

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Phoenix said:
Bush lost this debate for certain. Bush had some strong moments for certain, but Kerry owned him for much of it. Bush looked confused, thirsty and frustrated.
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I agree. The problem for Bush, though, is that most of his strong moments came earlier in the debate. Kerry finished very strong.
 
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goodcow

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FOX News just asked the right-winger who was on offense and who was on defense, and he replied avoiding a direct answer, said Bush won hands down, and then said "Bush didn't need bow-tox, and tans."
 
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teiresias

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I'm assuming the next debate is domestic policy? Is the third one the "town hall" thing? Does that actually have a theme?
 
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The Shadow

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goodcow said:
FOX News just asked the right-winger who was on offense and who was on defense, and he replied avoiding a direct answer, said Bush won hands down, and then said "Bush didn't need bow-tox, and tans."
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I saw that. Complete denial. That's why I changed the channel to Fox News. :D
 
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Drinky Crow

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The Southern voter response: Snotty Northeastern elitist liberal tries to use fancy words to make good ol' boy look bad; Our Blessed Son of Texas ain't gonna take none o' that larnin' shit from a terrorist sympathiser
 
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MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
The Shadow said:
Oh man. I gotta watch fox news and see what they have to say about this. :D
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Sounds like even Fox News is saying that Kerry came out very strong and that the President ran out of steam.

When Fox News is willing to give Kerry the overall nod, I think it's pretty clear that this was decisive.
 
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xsarien

daedsiluap
DarienA said:
"The president said the enemy attacked us.... Iraq didn't attack us, Osama Bin Laden did.... "

"Look I know Osama bin Laden attacked us..."

And then he never followed up to explain why all the sudden Bin Laden who he previously said WAS of major importance now suddenly wasn't...

OWN3D
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I must have been looking for something to throw at my TV when that happened. What'd Bush say?
 
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DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
I can't believe after all this time that he still can't pronounce "nuclear" properly...
 
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ConfusingJazz

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Drinky Crow said:
The Southern voter response: Snotty Northeastern elitist liberal tries to use fancy words to make good ol' boy look bad; Our Blessed Son of Texas ain't gonna take none o' that larnin' shit from a terrorist sympathiser
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This kinda bullshit infuriates me, HE WENT TO THE SAME DAMN SCHOOLS! He is not a down home boy, he is from the fucking northeast too.

Stupid marketing.
 
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