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OFFICIAL Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith thread

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Boogie

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ManaByte said:
TPM and AOTC were roughly 60-70% at the same time before their release, which is also what they ended at.
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Good to hear. I've entered the final stage of hype. Bought the soundtrack today, the Battle of the Heroes theme is awesome (though I knew that from the trailers), and I can't wait to see it in the movie.
 
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Willco said:
The fact that
Palpatine says he created Anakin with midichlorians
is extremely lame too. Extremely.
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The way he says it makes people think it's just another lie to lure Anakin over to his side

As for Rotten Tomatoes, the two negatives reviews are from the guy who said Fellowship of the Ring was dog shit for teenagers and the other one bashes the movie for being anti-Bush.
 
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Willco

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ManaByte said:
The way he says it makes people think it's just another lie to lure Anakin over to his side
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I knew this would be response, but that is still a mega-lame exchange of dialogue and just horrible from a story standpoint. It might not be a deal breaker, but I really, really hate anything that mentions midichlorians, and that additional crap to boot.
 
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Prince of Space

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ManaByte said:
The way he says it makes people think it's just another lie to lure Anakin over to his side

As for Rotten Tomatoes, the two negatives reviews are from the guy who said Fellowship of the Ring was dog shit for teenagers and the other one bashes the movie for being anti-Bush.
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Wait, so that's STILL in the movie?
 
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Willco said:
The fact that
Palpatine says he created Anakin with midichlorians
is extremely lame too. Extremely.
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don't remember that line in there. i think there was only one mention of them,
where palpatine is telling anakin how powers from the dark side can be used to affect one's midichlorians to extend life
 
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Tritroid

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Yes, I remember the scene in the script where
Palp. explains that his previous master was able to literally create and extend life through the midiclorians, but the rest of it, where he tells Anakin that he was responsible for creating him, was gone.

Also, in the Making Of book, it says that the
Palp creating Anakin
dialogue was cut completely.
 
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Saki

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ManaByte said:
According to Alexandra DuPont's review (which was very positive), it is in
during the opera scene
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He only says that Darth Plagueis could influence the midichlorians to create/preserve life, there's no Palpatine father talk anymore.
 
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borghe

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hehe.. waiting for willco's response in this thread.. the lines from the movie are

PALPATINE: (continuing) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?

ANAKIN: No.

PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.

ANAKIN: He could actually save people from death?

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

considering the movies are canon, and not previous scripts, I think from that it can be inferred that while lucas toyed with the idea, he dropped it pretty much altogether. THAT is the line you hear in the movie.

personally I am on the side of the bashers with this one... I can live with immaculate conception.. actually I am fine with it.. but the whole palpatine using the force to impregnate shmi blah blah blah.... well, not like great authors (including lucas) haven't come up with lame duck concepts before that were abandoned sometime in the writing process.
 
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123rl

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When is opening day in America? It's Thursday May 19th over here...already got my ticket for the premier showing on Thursday @ 10am :D
 
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Crusader

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Oh, this looks all too familiar.

While I guess "ZOMG Darkness" has ensnared a few critics, I bet it's going to descend into a shitfest shortly after next Thursday. Five bucks says hating this movie is gonna be what all the cool kids do.
 
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borghe

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it's may 19th.

so basically london should get it 5 hours before we do, if japan opens on may 19th they should get it 13 hours before we do, etc.

sucks to live in hawaii.. well, ok, not really, but they'll be among the last to get the movie.
 
Tritroid

Tritroid

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I wouldn't have a problem with the idea of Palpatine creating Anakin still being in the movie, if it was blatantly proven to be a lie later or something.

Of course, that would cause mass confusion I suppose as to the actual events of Shmi's pregnancy.
 
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Saki

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borghe said:
it's may 19th.

so basically london should get it 5 hours before we do, if japan opens on may 19th they should get it 13 hours before we do, etc.

sucks to live in hawaii.. well, ok, not really, but they'll be among the last to get the movie.
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I don't think Japan got AOTC when everyone did, think it took a month.
Anyway, New Zealand gets it first, then Australia ( WOOHEY! :D )
France and a few weird countries get it on May 18 though.
 
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LukeSmith

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borghe said:
hehe.. waiting for willco's response in this thread.. the lines from the movie are

PALPATINE: (continuing) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?

ANAKIN: No.

PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.

ANAKIN: He could actually save people from death?

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

considering the movies are canon, and not previous scripts, I think from that it can be inferred that while lucas toyed with the idea, he dropped it pretty much altogether. THAT is the line you hear in the movie.

personally I am on the side of the bashers with this one... I can live with immaculate conception.. actually I am fine with it.. but the whole palpatine using the force to impregnate shmi blah blah blah.... well, not like great authors (including lucas) haven't come up with lame duck concepts before that were abandoned sometime in the writing process.
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actually, the lines about being able to create life from midiclorians(sp) remained in the film to some degree. Palpy has one line about the Dark Side being able to create life by molding midiclorians inside someone. It's a pretty lose allusion to the potential fatherhood of palpatine, but in the film's context makes far more sense as another lure. Anakin is like a girl without a father in this movie -- destined for the Dark Side that is Porno.
 
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ManaByte

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Scoot said:
actually, the lines about being able to create life from midiclorians(sp) remained in the film to some degree. Palpy has one line about the Dark Side being able to create life by molding midiclorians inside someone. It's a pretty lose allusion to the potential fatherhood of palpatine, but in the film's context makes far more sense as another lure. Anakin is like a girl without a father in this movie -- destined for the Dark Side that is Porno.
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I knew the line was still in the movie.
 
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LukeSmith

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ManaByte said:
I knew the line was still in the movie.
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Yeah, I was just letting Borghe know that it wasn't cut entirely. Not you, Mana, hell I saw it and you probably know more about the flick than I do :lol
 
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ManaByte

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Scoot said:
Yeah, I was just letting Borghe know that it wasn't cut entirely. Not you, Mana, hell I saw it and you probably know more about the flick than I do :lol
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No, Saki was saying it was there but people who have actually seen the movie say it is.

ONE WEEK LEFT.
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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Movieweb posted their reviews, and while both critics are tracked by RT they haven't been added to the meter yet. One gave it a 5/5:

So it is with complete and utter praise that I feel I can tell you that Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith is not only a remarkable achievement but an awesome movie and a fitting third installment in the prequel portion of the trilogy.
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George Lucas, the ultimate independent, the man who left Hollywood, quit the DGA and funds his own celluloid dreams can count himself right alongside this merry pack of renegades. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith is a dazzling pastiche of humanity mixed with the hi-tech which in the end shows the enormous heart of not only the creation but the creator.
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The other gave it a 4/5:

Don't get me wrong. It's not a horrible film. I'm not going to pull out one of those age-old clichés like, "George Lucas punched my childhood in the kidneys!" Or, "He did it too me a third time!" You know, those geek lines that rate super high in the Star Wars lexicon. Seriously, they're up there with, "I have a bad feeling about this." And, "You Don't know the Power of the Darkside." Saying, "George Lucas raped my virgin mouth with his prequels!" Is synonymous with, "May the Force Be With You." I'm surprised Lucasfilm hasn't slapped a trademark on this "rape" chestnut. They could have made millions off it in T-shirt sales alone.

Revenge of the Sith isn't a bad film. It's quite the opposite.

Thing is, this isn't supposed to be a rousing Whoopti-Doo. It's not supposed to be a fun summer thrill ride. The fact I left the film feeling completely, unequivocally depressed means the sonvabitch made something that surpasses Pop Entertainment. Yeah, I guess, for the most part, George got it right. He nailed the aura and emotional arc usually associated with a funeral pyre. I don't even really want to talk about the goddamn thing. Revenge of the Sith wiped me out both physically and emotionally. So much so, I'm not going to rush back to the theater to see it anytime soon. The next time I watch the movie is going to be when I'm broken hearted, and I want to feel ten times worse than I already do. I'm glad I didn't see this with a buzz on, I would have been crying like a little bitch through the last twenty minutes.

That's a dirty trick. There's not supposed to be any crying in Star Wars.
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civilstrife

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Wow... am I the only one that is COMPLETELY hit off guard by this?
A Star Wars prequal actually being amazing? I should stop reading those reviews or I'll go in with expectations that are too high, but wow. I am now officially hyped.
 
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Ristamar

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Revenge of the Sith isn't a bad film. It's quite the opposite.

Thing is, this isn't supposed to be a rousing Whoopti-Doo. It's not supposed to be a fun summer thrill ride. The fact I left the film feeling completely, unequivocally depressed means the sonvabitch made something that surpasses Pop Entertainment. Yeah, I guess, for the most part, George got it right. He nailed the aura and emotional arc usually associated with a funeral pyre. I don't even really want to talk about the goddamn thing. Revenge of the Sith wiped me out both physically and emotionally. So much so, I'm not going to rush back to the theater to see it anytime soon. The next time I watch the movie is going to be when I'm broken hearted, and I want to feel ten times worse than I already do. I'm glad I didn't see this with a buzz on, I would have been crying like a little bitch through the last twenty minutes.

That's a dirty trick. There's not supposed to be any crying in Star Wars.
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Interesting. That's probably my favorite review so far. That's what I want to see.
 
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SD-Ness

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Ristamar said:
Interesting. That's probably my favorite review so far. That's what I want to see.
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I agree.

Take any other timeline you might find, and put Revenge of the Sith 3 years after Attack of the Clones.
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Yeah, well I had trouble finding a good one anyway. TheForce.Net's timeline wasn't loading, but I'm guessing that will be good when it does work. But you answered part of my question anyway - that it's three years after AotC. Thanks.
 
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Tabris

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Yay! Ordered my advance screening tickets for 12:01am at the only digital theatre in BC.

I'll be with the freaks and geeks on May 18/19th :)
 
ManaByte

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Drew McWeeeeny a.k.a. Moriarty posted a long review at AICN in both spoiler and non-spoiler flavors:

I will say that having now seen EPISODE III, I have no choice but to view the first two chapters of the trilogy in a new light. But then, isn’t that the point? We’ve finally gotten the final act in this six hour story, and it ties everything that comes before and that follows into one coherent piece in a way that marks Lucas as a genuine visionary. I understand completely that not everyone is going to like what he’s done in this film, but I think it works better than I could have even hoped, much less expected.

And, no, that doesn’t mean that I’m a “Lucas apologist,” either. As you’ll see after this film hits theaters, fans of this series don’t have a goddamn thing to apologize to anyone for.
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The final third of the film doesn’t feel like anything Lucas has made before, and it’s this stretch of the film that elevates it from a technically dazzling adventure movie to something close to greatness, a tragedy with a genuinely bleak ending that somehow manages to exhilarate even as it devastates. I think there’s going to be a lot of repeat business for the film theatrically, and I think much of that will be because of some of the enormous final action sequences. Thanks to director of photography David Tattersall, the ILM crews headed by Rob Coleman and John Knoll, and Lucas himself, you can’t help but get caught up in the sweeping nature of the storytelling even as you get lost in the astonishing hellscape where everything comes to the close that fans have waited for since 1977. And it may sounds like faint praise when I say that this film is a visual powerhouse (“Well, of course it looks good”), but it’s not. This movie is, quite simply, too sumptuous a visual feast for anyone to fully digest in one viewing.
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Kabuki Waq said:
IGN didnt seem to like it but honestly his review was a bit disjointed.
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Disjointed is putting it nicely.

There's a scandal with the NY Observer where the reviewer wrote a massive review trashing the movie, and he apparently never even went to a screening.
 
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Premiere:
Once Palpatine's machinations set the cogs in motion for the creation of Vader, and the Clone Wars start getting bloody, Sith commences to cook in a way that no Star Wars movie has since "Empire."
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Kabuki Waq said:
IGN didnt seem to like it but honestly his review was a bit disjointed.
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Also Glen went in and edited his review to link to Drew McWeeny's review and call him a "less level-headed" reviewer. Guess the new way for IGN to review things is to single out and bash the critics you don't agree with.
 
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kamikaze

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just read the IGN review and i find a lot of his complaints on the spoiler page to be very nit-picky. does he really need it spelled out that
clone troopers execute order 66 because that's the nature of being a clone? am i the only one who thought clone troopers were created simply to take orders?

complaining about anakin
not being able to sense twins
is about as valid as complaining that vader couldn't tell that leia was his daughter. it's not an unreasonable complaint, but it is very nit-picky. the reviewer acts like there weren't some odd/inconsistent events in the original trilogy.

i'm interested in reading/hearing negative views on ep3 to try to make sure that i haven't been 'blinded' by some sort of joy of seeing another star wars movie but i don't think i read any compelling arguments against the movie in this IGN review (does that mean i'm really really blinded?)

i'm hoping time and another viewing will solidify my take on the movie but right now, i'm still really happy with it and can't wait to see it again. for episodes 1 and 2, i had mixed feelings leaving the theater, but for ep3 i was just perfectly happy (which seems like an odd thing to say after watching a tragic ending...but hey, it's been 22 years since i walked out clearly happy after a star wars film)
 
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ManaByte

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kamikaze said:
just read the IGN review and i find a lot of his complaints on the spoiler page to be very nit-picky. does he really need it spelled out that
clone troopers execute order 66 because that's the nature of being a clone? am i the only one who thought clone troopers were created simply to take orders?
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It's explained in AOTC:
"LAMA SU: You'll find they are totally obedient, taking any
order without question. We modified their genetic structure
to make them less independent than the original host."

And since Sidious/Palpatine is in charge of the Republic, the Clones follow his orders without question and that includes killing their Jedi Generals.
 
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kamikaze

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ManaByte said:
It's explained in AOTC:
"LAMA SU: You'll find they are totally obedient, taking any
order without question. We modified their genetic structure
to make them less independent than the original host."

And since Sidious/Palpatine is in charge of the Republic, the Clones follow his orders without question and that includes killing their Jedi Generals.
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heh, so it was spelled out. :) whatever the case, i had no problems with those sequences but it's too bad the reviewer did.
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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DopeyFish said:
all 3 rotten reviews are literally... rotten.
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One complains that the movie is anti-Bush, one bitches about Kevin Smith, and the third bitches about all of the RT good reviews and singles out AICN.
 
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