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OFFICIAL Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith thread

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borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
here is a part from Moriarty's fan non-spoiler review that I think probably every single fan 30 and older can relate to.. I know I did (even though I didn't get to see it in the theater until 1978 at the age of 3)

As I was driving home from the Westwood screening, it was the middle of the afternoon, and I was on the phone, talking to a friend about trying to find some time to hang out.

”Well, STAR WARS is over, and I’ve got a Prepared Childbirth class with my wife tonight,” I said, and soon as I heard those words out loud, a wave of melancholy broke over me. Things are changing, and I think there are no two clearer markers of that for me than these.

You can’t possibly understand what it felt like for me sitting in the theater watching this film play unless you were there in 1977 for the very first film. Which isn’t to say that my experience is better than that of someone much younger... it just won’t be the same. This is the closing of a major chapter in my life, a rite of passage for fandom at large, and the thing that makes it hardest is that the film is so damned good. Lucas exhibits such confidence that it’s almost frustrating. The opening half-hour is relentlessly paced, and both Hayden and Ewan appear to have really connected with their roles. Even better, Lucas has fine-tuned his sense of humor, and fans are going to go nuts for R2-D2 during the first half-hour of the movie. This is the coolest R2’s been since EMPIRE, and it’s a pleasure to have him back. There are images in the film that connect the prequels to the original trilogy in ways I didn’t expect. I found the film quite moving as a whole, and there are moments all over the movie that gave me chills... genuine chills. If you were there in the theater in 1977, there are a few moments that imprinted upon you, moments where the score and the cinematography and the performances all came together in ways that were unarguably magical. If you saw that film with the crowds that packed the theater all summer long... and I’m not exaggerating. It’s hard to imagine for younger audiences, even if you see a blockbuster theatrically today, even during opening weekend. There was something so communal and amazing and chemical about going to see STAR WARS during, say, it’s 23rd week in theaters. In the local paper, there was the omnipresent STAR WARS ad amidst all the other movie ads, and there was a starburst in the corner of the ad saying how many weeks it had been in theaters.

It was #1, of course. It was always #1. There was no question about it being #1. There were no box-office charts running in the paper every Monday. There was no national Monday-morning-quarterback-voracious-appetite-for-numbers mentality yet. But you knew that STAR WARS was #1 because it had gone from being wildly popular movie to event to news story to phenomenon to news story again to genuine home-grown cult, and being part of that... being a STAR WARS fan... it was ours. It was the first thing I ever felt like I was in on from the ground floor. No one told me that STAR WARS was a big hit film, and I had no concept of a tentpole picture or a popcorn picture or a rollercoaster ride or any of the other current standards of the pop lexicon that simply didn’t exist at that point. STAR WARS wasn’t sold to me. It wasn’t marketed to me relentlessly. It was something that happened to me. All at once. I walked into the theater expecting I was going to see a movie, and instead, someone shot me in the head with a movie. And going back in those later weeks, it was about sharing in the joy of STAR WARS with other people who had already had that experience, and it was about taking people who somehow had missed the film so far (something that seemed more and more incomprehensible as the year wore on) and showing them how empty and pointless their lives had been before. STAR WARS was viral for those of us who saw it in 1977. It got inside you, and you had no choice but to be evangelical about it. As quickly as they could figure out how to make merchandise for it, you bought it. Not because it was an obligation. Not because you were bombarded by marketing for all the stuff. But because you wanted to have portable STAR WARS, things you could carry around that would remind you of STAR WARS during those unfortunate moments where you weren’t actually watching the film. You wanted to have STAR WARS you could replay for yourself at home (which in those days meant THE STAR WARS STORYBOOK read slowly while the soundtrack album played on the stereo). You wanted to dress in STAR WARS so that people would know as soon as they saw you, and they’d have to ask you about it, and then you’d be able to talk about it, and aside from watching the film, there was nothing better than talking about the film. Audiences didn’t just react to the film in theaters. They went crazy for it. They exploded at every joke. They would applaud after big action moments and cheer during them. They practically tore the seats out during the Death Star attack. It was part celebration when the film would play, and part pure visceral release. Every. Single. Time.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20201#2
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
Wow, that Moriarty quote really captures that year. I was 12 going on 13, and will never forget it. That's EXACTLY how it was.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
SteveMeister said:
Wow, that Moriarty quote really captures that year. I was 12 going on 13, and will never forget it. That's EXACTLY how it was.
I remember around the time we went to see it that I always thought at the time that movie theaters just always played star wars. our local theaters (as I was told) got it in a little after May in 1977, and played it through pretty much until some time later in 1978.. literally played it for over a year non-stop. When it left the theaters in the area (their were only two theaters for the entire town) I remember asking if that meant the theaters were going to close down.. I didn't get at the time that this WASN'T how movies played normally.

of course I was three, and some of this information about me was passed on to me when I was older. your memory ain't quite an elephant's at 3... but what I do remember, like it happened yesterday, is that image of my entire family sitting in the theater and Leia and Vader aboard the Tantive IV. The theatrical movies we saw together as an entire family (my mom and dad amicably separated when I was 5) were Star Wars, Muppet Movie, Flash Gordon, Police Academy 2, and Fellowship of the Ring (my dad died the November before Two Towers was released).

Anyway I posted that clip because Moriarty is right. This is the end of a huge chapter in many of our lives. I don't think you even have to be a "Star Wars geek" to really be a Star Wars geek and have had the movies make some sort of impact on your life.

To give you one example of the impact it had on my life. I had been going out with this girl for a few years. We fell in love, but eventually another girl came along and my head turned. I broke up with the first one and started dating the second one. This was fall of 1998. During this time, the Episode I trailer debuted at the start of Waterboy and Meet Joe Black (a couple years later I discovered I should have seen Meet Joe Black instead). We went to the theater, a whole group of us, and after being blown away by the trailer, the only thought in my mind was, "***** should have been here for this with me, not *****." As much as I liked my new girlfriend, it was my previous girlfriend that I always envisioned crossing all of the important parts in my life with me, including being there for the prequel trilogy. We are now going on our third anniversary of marriage.

Without Star Wars, I probably never would have gone into technology like I did. Computers just seemed so natural.. Think about that.. back in 1979 and 1980, a 4 year old kid from a relatively poor family felt that computers and technology were just a natural thing. My friends didn't really have computers. Heck, only one friend by the time I was 6 had an Atari 2600 and another a TI/99A (also huge Star Wars fans). But yet here I was asking my mom for this stuff because it was in Star Wars and technology was where everything was going.. a 5 year old asking his mom for this stuff. And now that is what I have been doing as a career for almost 10 years and making a very fine living at it.

Like I said.. I posted the quote from Moriarty because it really resonated with me and I have a feeling it will resonate with many others who read this thread, even if they choose not to share so. This is the end of it folks. It's almost here. This will be the last time you get to see that pale blue silent text on the screen followed by that yellow orange logo and the blaring trumpets.. this will be the last time you ever get to experience that for the first time in the theater again. The fact that George unquestionably hit this episode out of the park only makes it that much sweeter. The fact that it ties the old and the new together only makes it that much sweeter. It almost seems cliche to say it, but seriously. . . this is what many of us have been waiting 28 years for.

The saga is now complete indeed.
 

evil ways

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Anybody have the Tragedy 1 & 2 TV spots on MP4 format for the PSP? I try to convert them and every single time I get an error message about Transcode Error: Codec Not Supported or some shit like that.

Thanks in advance.
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
Here is a post from MF.com that explains this whole Palpatine controversy- it's really not dumb at all:

Because I've seen this subject of conversation popping up as if it was a new thing in many of the threads at other websites, and even poking its head up once or twice in here, and I figure it needs clarification as it's a pretty important piece of Episode III

At one point, in a conversation shortly after the opera, Palpatine implies he and his master Darth Plagueis created Anakin via their manipulation of midichlorians. This is shortly after he claims to have the solution to prolonging life and stopping people from dying.

Both of these "revelations" are lies. They are the hook to bait Anakin.

For one, if Palpatine could create human beings why would he stop at one? Why create clones if you could create JEDI?

secondly--he doesn't know how to prolong life or stop people from dying. He couldn't stop himself, hell, he didn't even prolong his aging, apparently. And there was never any chance he was actually going to allow Anakin to keep Padme alive. This is the same guy that ordered her assassination at the beginning of the FIRST movie.

His promises and claims are false. they're means to an end to get Anakin to join him. They're not true. Palpatine cannot prolong life, and he can't create it, either.

Credit: Fatboy Roberts from MF.com
 

ManaByte

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I'll let Manabyte do the honors but it seems we have a new rotten review guys. :(

At least they all comprise less than 1/5 of the review total.
 

ManaByte

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Cold-Steel said:
I'll let Manabyte do the honors but it seems we have a new rotten review guys. :(

At least they all comprise less than 1/5 of the review total.

You mean the IGN review? The one where he bashes it for not explaining things that were already explained in Episode I and II while at the same time trashing all the critics to give it a good review?

The things he complained about are explained in Episodes I and II, it'd be like him reviewing Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and saying "How do we know how Indy is pretty sure the painting on the wall is the Ark? Do we know he's seen the Ark? How do we know this? This movie sucks because of this."
 

Ristamar

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No, it says there are 4 rottens now. However, it looks like it is counting the IGN review twice.

EDIT: Okay, 5 now. Still, I only see 4 'rotten' marks. Something is farked.
 

ManaByte

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Ristamar said:
No, it says there are 4 rottens now. However, it looks like it is counting the IGN review twice.

EDIT: Okay, 5 now. Still, I only see 4 'rotten' marks. Something is farked.

Well if you want a consipiracy theory IGN owns RT and they could be counting their review twice to get more pageviews for ads.
 

Ristamar

Member
Cold-Steel said:
Actually I was talking about the Rolling Stones review.

(Old?)

No, you're right, the RS review is new. When I had visited RT earlier before the RS review was posted, the IGN review was apparently being counted twice. As I mentioned, there are 4 rotten reviews posted, but the rotten tally is at 5.
 

ManaByte

Member
Cold-Steel said:
Actually I was talking about the Rolling Stones review.

(Old?)

Ah Peter Travers. The same person who hated all LOTR and SW movies (and said the EE DVDs of LOTR were a rip-off) while giving glowing reviews to Alexander, Starsky & Hutch, and The Village. He also doesn't watch the whole movie. He goes to a screening and leaves after 20 minutes and leaves his assistant to watch the rest, then he writes the review based on what she says in combination with the EPK he's sent.
 
ManaByte said:
Ah Peter Travers. The same person who hated all LOTR and SW movies (and said the EE DVDs of LOTR were a rip-off) while giving glowing reviews to Alexander, Starsky & Hutch, and The Village. He also doesn't watch the whole movie. He goes to a screening and leaves after 20 minutes and leaves his assistant to watch the rest, then he writes the review based on what she says in combination with the EPK he's sent.

Oh. Well...he must be...[AdamWest]A COMMUNIST![/AdamWest]
 

Ristamar

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Eh, disregard my last few posts, apparently I'm a moron. I didn't realize they counted the Cream of The Crop reviews as two "votes."

EDIT: FUCK. Scratch that theory, too. There are other movies where the tallies and links don't match up. I guess they don't link to all the reviews submitted to them.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
Just got back from the DC charity screening. All I can say is, wow. I'm exhausted. It's a pretty amazing movie, and
extremely, extremely sad.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
ManaByte said:
Was it digital?

Nope, gotta go check out a digital print next week. No trailers, either. But I did get to see Carrie Fisher and her mother Debbie Reynolds. And Arch Campbell, who's the local movie critic (with whom I almost always disagree).
 

btrboyev

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how well does the soundtrack go with the overall movie?? Also is there anyhting in the movie that wasn't on the soundtrack?
 

mrkgoo

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btrboyev said:
how well does the soundtrack go with the overall movie?? Also is there anyhting in the movie that wasn't on the soundtrack?

I'm guessing yes, seeing as the soundtrack is only 70 minutes long. Unless there's an hour of silence in the BG. Or they repeat songs.
 

kamikaze

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SteveMeister said:
Just got back from the DC charity screening. All I can say is, wow.

heh, i felt the same way. :) so how do you rank it relative to the rest of the films?

...and i don't suppose you have a big urge to check out the original series? (again after having just seen the moving leading up to it)
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
ManaByte said:
Was it digital?


the one in new york was.

as a guy who's not really that into star wars.. i really enjoyed it. there is still some stiff acting here and there... but the story and pacing was much better than the first two movies.. lucas also handled vaders transformation very very well.

.. also, out of all the celebrities that were at the premier (sam jacksion being one of them) .. the only one i got to see was an american idol reject. i have a crap camera phone picture of him too. :( .. thats what i get for being late and missing the red carpet entrance. :(
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
SteveMeister said:
Nope, gotta go check out a digital print next week.

you in the DC area? The only one I know of is Merrifield, you know of a site that has info on digital screenings?
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
btrboyev said:
how well does the soundtrack go with the overall movie?? Also is there anyhting in the movie that wasn't on the soundtrack?

There's a LOT that's in the movie but not on the soundtrack, actually. And some of the "tracks" are different -- for example, the first track on the album -- "Star Wars and Revenge of the Sith" is very different from the way it plays out in the movie, and the closing credits do not include the Throne Room music.

The soundtrack is excellent.

As far as a ranking goes, it's hard to say. It's definitely up there with 4 and 5.

Oh, and the list of digital theaters is definitely far from complete. I know of at least 3 theaters off the top of my head that have digital projectors besides the Merrifield Multiplex, and I'm sure they'll be playing Star Wars. I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't pick up a digital print as well.
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
ManaByte said:
People are saying that III, IV, and V will probably be the "real" trilogy since they are the good ones.


i'll agree to that.


also the visuals are quite breathtaking in this one.. though the blue screening is noticeable every now and then..
 

ManaByte

Member
IGN has a different take on the movie up, more positive than the immature bitching one.

Here is my spoiler-free, mega-fan appraisal of the movie. Although it has its share of pacing and acting issues, Episode III is exactly what fans had been expecting from the prequel trilogy. It ties up many of the threads that had been left hanging on both sides of the series, fleshes out characters completely, and utterly changes one's perception of the OT.

There is more emotion and tragedy in this film for me than in many of the "dramas" released in the last year. Steven Spielberg apparently "got his cry on" during an Ep III screening, and I am not ashamed to admit that I did, too. Please spare me any emails telling me that I am a pussy and that Star Wars is nothing to get worked up about. Like it or not, Star Wars is a huge part of many people's lives. I'm not embarrassed to admit that it contributed to the way I look at movies and the world.

Star Wars is the reason I got interested in film, the reason that I do what I do today. Sitting down and watching Sith unfold, I was struck by the sense that this is likely the last time I watch a new Star Wars film in the theater. As the tragic and wonderful film played out, tears were spilled, partly because of the sense of closure and loss, partially because this is a sad, sad story. Here's the worst part: I cried during a lightsaber battle. Maybe you can write in and call me a pussy, after all.

Anyway, after waiting for the full telling of the tale for 27 years, the final installment was not disappointing. In fact, it was the best film since Empire, and perhaps second only to it. Why are the darkest movies the best?
 
"Here is my spoiler-free, mega-fan appraisal of the movie.
:lol

That should tell you a lot about the review


Although it has its share of pacing and acting issues,

:(

There is more emotion and tragedy in this film for me than in many of the "dramas" released in the last year.
:lol :lol :lol


Star Wars is a huge part of many people's lives. I'm not embarrassed to admit that it contributed to the way I look at movies and the world.? "

:lol :lol

loves the way he glosses over all the acting and pacing issues. As if they mean nothing cause its a starwars movie.

Honestly why not let Manabyte write the review?
 
ManaByte said:
People are saying that III, IV, and V will probably be the "real" trilogy since they are the good ones.


No, thats the lamest thing I have ever heard. The fight between vader and luke in RotJ is the pinnicle of Star Wars movies in my opinion. Episode 3 might be better than the prequals but it is still a CGI mess with whiney Hayden.
 

mrkgoo

Member
You know with Star Wars being a major part of 20-somethings childhood, growing up, and possibly influencing how they define entertainment... what do you think today's generation's "Star Wars" is? Is there a series of movies/stories that kids today will latch onto like a ult? Or have times changed? Are there no more movies that break the mold any more?

Harry Potter?
Lotr?
 

ManaByte

Member
mrkgoo said:
You know with Star Wars being a major part of 20-somethings childhood, growing up, and possibly influencing how they define entertainment... what do you think today's generation's "Star Wars" is? Is there a series of movies/stories that kids today will latch onto like a ult? Or have times changed? Are there no more movies that break the mold any more?

Harry Potter?
Lotr?

That's actually a discussion we had over on the Viewaskew boards back when Kevin was bitch slapping the Rotten Tomatoes fucktards and it brought forth some interesting theories regarding the perception of the movies that I won't post here as they can spark nasty flame wars.

However, as you did mention, for most people in their late 20s and early 30s, Star Wars was a big part of their childhood and kids who grew up in the 90s didn't have the same unbelievable run of movies we did (Jaws, Raiders, Star Wars, Close Encounters, ET, Empire, Temple of Doom, Jedi, Gremlins, Back to the Future, etc.).
 

Saki

Banned
ManaByte said:
However, as you did mention, for most people in their late 20s and early 30s, Star Wars was a big part of their childhood and kids who grew up in the 90s didn't have the same unbelievable run of movies we did (Jaws, Raiders, Star Wars, Close Encounters, ET, Empire, Temple of Doom, Jedi, Gremlins, Back to the Future, etc.).
I'm 18, and when I was growing up, these films were (and still are) my favourites :p
 
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