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|OT| French Presidential Elect 2017 - La France est toujours insoumise; Le Pen loses

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Coffinhal

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mo60 said:
I find it funny how le pen is thinking of changing the FN again.
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She underperformed at both round and did a really bad debate, she needs to do something to stop her base happy. She is going to face the part of her party who thinks she need to embrace a neoliberal agenda on the economic policy and be stronger on immigration in order to have the hegemony on the right-wing
 
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Makareu

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The camera angle with Macron and the pyramid is good. Just a shame that he is much worse at talking to a crowd than a single person.
 
Green Yoshi

Green Yoshi

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Loxley said:
Does the US have any young and handsome democrats who speak French that could run against Trump in 2020? That appears to be a winning combination :)
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A Warren/Sanders ticket will do the job. Especially if many Americans won't be so happy with Trump in four years.
 
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Frankfurter

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I'm thinking of the salty, salty tears of Putin, UKIP, Wilders, Le Pen, AfD... such a good feeling :D Stay winning France, stay losing right wing fools.
 
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Coffinhal

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Kilrogg said:
"Cette confiance m'oblige"... Channeling Chirac in 2002, I see.

Pretty boring/empty so far.
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Well what did you expect ? He's saying the usual stuff, with more vigour than usual.

Great mise en scène though : very presidential, clearly inspired to what Mitterrand did in 1981 at the Panthéon with the shadows/lights contrast and the low-angle shots perfectly framed

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whyamihere

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Paris coming in. Le Pen's going to go down even further. Wonder if Macron can hit 66%...

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@Taniel
And... France's 1st congressional poll (Sofres):

En Marche (Macron) 24%, LR (right) 22%, FN 21%, Left Front 15%, Socialists 9%, Greens 4%
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Runoff makes it weird, but En Marche looks like it could be a real electoral force and not just a Macron-only thing. FN at 21% is sad, but I guess expected.
 
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Gurgelhals

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So what happens in terms of actual government in the weeks between Macron taking office and the legislative elections? Anything at all?
 
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poppedcollar69

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Green Yoshi said:
A Warren/Sanders ticket will do the job. Especially if many Americans won't be so happy with Trump in four years.
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Wow,I can't believe I never thought of the possibility of having Sanders on the ticket as vp... I thought there was no feasible way for him to be involved in 2020. That's a very interesting idea
 
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mo60

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A macron style candidate that can also appeal to left wing voters is something democrats in the US should look at in 2020
 
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HaloRose said:
Anyone who left wing will do the trick
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Not really. The flavour of leftism matters. It can't be one that talks about Marxist dialectic or free borders or disarmament (see: Corbyn). It needs to be the leftism of the working classes - better pay, less bosses, more security.
 
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Kilrogg

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Welp, that sure was a bunch of words he said. On the plus side, he was alone during the speech. Didn't play the Brigitte card.

Speaking of, her clothes look like a Battlestar Galactica outfit or some shit lol.
 
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Herb Alpert

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whyamihere said:
Paris coming in. Le Pen's going to go down even further. Wonder if Macron can hit 66%...

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Runoff makes it weird, but En Marche looks like it could be a real electoral force and not just a Macron-only thing. FN at 21% is sad, but I guess expected.
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That's quite the division

Things will be difficult for everybody
 
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mo60

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whyamihere said:
Current departments that Le Pen is winning:

Var: 50.2%
Pas-de-Calais: 51.9%
Aisne: 53.3%

That's... it.
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LMAO. She;s winning less departments then I expected, but she actually did worse then I expected to. If she did a few percentage points better she would have probably won 5 departments.
 
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Coffinhal

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whyamihere said:
Paris coming in. Le Pen's going to go down even further. Wonder if Macron can hit 66%...

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Runoff makes it weird, but En Marche looks like it could be a real electoral force and not just a Macron-only thing. FN at 21% is sad, but I guess expected.
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I wouldn't read too much into it, too many bias this soon and what is important is what would happen in the second round and how many MPs would go to which parties
 
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harriet the spy

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I love how the only way trump can congratulate Macron is by praising 'his big win'. I could see him respecting Macron against all odds solely because of this. He has the mind of a child.
 
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Kilrogg

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Positives of the speech:
- said he'd do everything in his power to make sure people don't have any reasons to vote for extremists in the future. Good intentions, it's definitely what he should do... But let's hope he can live up to those words.
- addressed people who voted for him even though they don't agree with him, including Le Pen voters

I'm sad he literally said only one word about the environment. Like, he said "écologie" in an enumeration, but that's it. Not too surprising from him, but I hope he'll get someone good to carry forth the Energy Transition.
 
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Palette Swap

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Green Yoshi said:
CGT, a French union, already announced a demonstration in Paris for tomorrow. I'm speechless.
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To be fair, they had already said they would. And they were unequivocal in their support for him in the run-off.

I don't agree with them and don't share their concerns, but it's fair enough.

harriet the spy said:
Somewhere, somehow, Rama Yade fucked up.
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Not gonna lie, I had totally forgotten about Rama Yade.
 
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Kurdel

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Green Yoshi said:
That's why he can only be Vice President. Adenauer, a German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963, was Chancellor till age 87.
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The Vice President is supposed to be a backup plan of the President dies, not an older man used for his political capital to gain leverage.
 
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