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|OT| French Presidential Elect 2017 - La France est toujours insoumise; Le Pen loses
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Basically everyone. To be frank about today and the US election, Trump lucked out by winning votes in the states where it counted, which is what the polls never took into account. He never won a majority of the popular vote, otherwise the polls would've been correct and this horseshit about "don't trust the polls" wouldn't be happening today. We've been saying it for weeks now that Le Pen wouldn't win against Marcon because the Polls said he'd win by a country mile against her which is happening right now as we speak. Franly I'm glad it's over, because I can now gloat at people who tried to say otherwise about the result today.
I heard that RT and Sputnik were not happy about the election results.
You should check that out about his Platform on environment (Mediapart interview last Friday)
And that one too (Mediapart interview last November)
True, but he is so much better when he is exchanging ideas with someone, like with Mediapart last friday.
Here are 10.000 Japanese people singing it on the French-German TV channel Arte.
https://youtu.be/xBlQZyTF_LY
This has to be one of the biggest hold-ups in the history of elections. What a travesty
No one knows the guy, he has no political party, no political program, won't be able to govern, will probably pick most of Holland's old garde, is prety much the definition of a banker...
Yeah, good luck France for the next 5 years after the abysmal results of his "tenure" as Economy's secretary.
Also yes, I'm among those 12% who purposefully nullified his vote (highest in the history of modern elections, highest abstention at a second round since 1969.. talk about disenfranchement from this shitty matchup for the second round) before anyone tries to label me as some disgruntled Le Pen supporter (I throughly despise her).
He has nothing to say because he hasn't been told yet what to say. But don't worry, the people who put him there don't give a rat's ass about ecology, the workforce, the well beeing of french people. They won't do squat to better the life of the french people living in poverty or having a hard time making ends meet because when has any "centrist" party ever given a fuck about them?
After Sarkozy and Holland, France manages to reach a new low with Macron.
No one knows the guy, he has no political party, no political program, won't be able to govern, will probably pick most of Holland's old garde, is prety much the definition of a banker...
Yeah, good luck France for the next 5 years after the abysmal results of his "tenure" as Economy's secretary.
Also yes, I'm among those 12% who purposefully nullified his vote (highest in the history of modern elections, highest abstention at a second round since 1969.. talk about disenfranchement from this shitty matchup for the second round) before anyone tries to label me as some disgruntled Le Pen supporter (I throughly despise her).
He has nothing to say because he hasn't been told yet what to say. But don't worry, the people who put him there don't give a rat's ass about ecology, the workforce, the well beeing of french people. They won't do squat to better the life of the french people living in poverty or having a hard time making ends meet because when has any "centrist" party ever given a fuck about them?
After Sarkozy and Holland, France manages to reach a new low with Macron.
Lol. No it wont.
A female wallstreet person and someone who looks like they are 90. Neither are exactly the young forward thinking progressives that inspire hope and confidence in the future (aka how Obama was elected)
TheLostBigBoss
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The Donald is having a legit meltdown.
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Green Yoshi
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It payed off with Biden. ;-)
Four more years Trump is much more worrying in my opinion.
I'd label you as someone who wasted his vote and doesn't understand Democracy.
You don't understand democracy if you don't understand the importance of a white vote and what it represents.
No, they're easily manipulated people rallying around someone who hasn't done anything worthwhile or effective beside beeing spoonfed from the moment he left ENA by the big players in french economy and banking.
Vampirolol
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Good job France. I was expecting the worst honestly!
... did you just call Waren a 'female Wallstreet person'? 🤦🏾*♀️
r/the_meltdown is covering their meltdown right now.
It's interesting to see how French presidents of late have been average height or a bit shorter, compared to how in America every candidate has to be tall and imposing.
What a disgusting site, the "jokes" suggesting Muslims are subhuman are gag-worthy
Indeed. His debate with LePen was also rather excellent.
It represents nothing. It represents someone not wanting to chose between two candidates. It represents someone who couldn't for the life of theirs vote for someone they don't agree 100% with. Someone, who doesn't exist. It represents a wasted vote. It represents nothing.
LePen is a fool with no political skills. I'm disgusted 35% of french people voted for that trash
Unsurprisingly you're wrong. It represents defiance towards both candidates and is a clear message sent to them that they need to prove themselves. They're not given any kind of free pass. Candidates take the white vote very seriously, unlike you.
I wouldn't read too much into that haha
You're just judging morally. Political sociology shows the exact contrary.
Palette Swap
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It all went downhill after Chirac.
Guardian:
Macrons choice of Beethovens Ode to Joy as the background music to his march to the stage was surely significant.
It has been used before: François Mitterrand, Frances Socialist president from 1981 to 1985, chose it for his victory celebration.
But the Ode to Joy, a musical setting of Schillers lyrical verse of the same name, is also the anthem of the European Union an expression, the EU says, of Schillers vision of the human race becoming brothers.
EU leaders adopted it as the blocs anthem in 1985 and it is played at official ceremonies involving the EU to celebrate the values member states share rather than to replace their own national anthems.
Macron campaigned on a strong pro-European platform and explicitly said in his victory speech that strengthening the European Union was one of his goals as president. The first foreign leader to speak to him was Angela Merkel.
The president elect has often said his first priority in Brexit talks would be to defend the integrity of the EU. In his election manifesto he described Brexit as a crime that will leave the UK facing servitude.
His choice of music tonight would seem to send a particularly strong message to Theresa May.
Macrons choice of Beethovens Ode to Joy as the background music to his march to the stage was surely significant.
It has been used before: François Mitterrand, Frances Socialist president from 1981 to 1985, chose it for his victory celebration.
But the Ode to Joy, a musical setting of Schillers lyrical verse of the same name, is also the anthem of the European Union an expression, the EU says, of Schillers vision of the human race becoming brothers.
EU leaders adopted it as the blocs anthem in 1985 and it is played at official ceremonies involving the EU to celebrate the values member states share rather than to replace their own national anthems.
Macron campaigned on a strong pro-European platform and explicitly said in his victory speech that strengthening the European Union was one of his goals as president. The first foreign leader to speak to him was Angela Merkel.
The president elect has often said his first priority in Brexit talks would be to defend the integrity of the EU. In his election manifesto he described Brexit as a crime that will leave the UK facing servitude.
His choice of music tonight would seem to send a particularly strong message to Theresa May.
Biden was 63 in 08. That's normal age for a president anyway. Bernie will be almost 80.
Mass_Pincup
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There's no reason to be this salty from you, if I remember correctly you're living in Canada.
Swass
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You have no idea what you are talking about if you associate Elizabeth Warren to wall street.. and Bernie is the most popular politician in America, so unless he really declines in health in 3 years, people aren't going to care about his age especially if he is VP.
Which is strange because we aren't small at all, I don't know why we choose small président XD
My family lives in France?
You would have prefer Lepen to win over Macron ?
RPGCrazied
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What does Macron think of Trump? Has he ever brought him up?
Palette Swap
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Get out with that "easily manipulated" bullshit.
Well what did you expect ? He's saying the usual stuff, with more vigour than usual.
Great mise en scène though : very presidential, clearly inspired to what Mitterrand did in 1981 at the Panthéon with the shadows/lights contrast and the low-angle shots perfectly framed
I thought it looked cool as fuck. Like something taken out of "Le Samourai" or "The Conformist".
On a completely different note, I found it interesting that the FN couldn't go the "everything is too PC" route like Trump. Probably because of their history, they really had to go PC.
paperboywriter
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What I learned at my most recent trip to that sub forum is that Germany for some reason rules France now. What kind of pills are they taking over there?
No
I would have prefered the shitstains at the PS to not be the worthsless scumbag opportunists they proved themselves to be and endorse Hamond as they were supposed to.
The most ecological, Europe, social minded candidate and they pick this garbage candidate? please. A purge needs to happen within the PS if it wants to have any credibility moving forward, first of all with Valls
I'm not sure I have ever heard a more 180 degree wrong characterization of Elizabeth Warren.
She's been anti-wall street basically her whole career as a college professor, lol. That's why anyone knew who she was to ask her to run for senate!
Vampirolol
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This is wrong. Blank vote is a message, very different from abstention. I know that modern society doesn't seem to care about that, but it's still a respectable vote.
Even though I'm happy to see Le Pen losing (but do this people really lose?), I've been in France for months and I saw many people being disappointed by the politics in general. That's too bad.
A female Wall Street person? Ugh, no wonder we're fucked.
mmazurkiewicz
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You're like the dumbasses who voted for Bernie and are now part of the Resist movement.
Alx
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Hey, 1.73 isn't short. -_-
I thought he was taller actually, like 1.77, I must have read it wrong on one picture of his passport on Twitter.
Another thing to annoy me, not only are we the same age and from the same region, but e have the same height too. But he's president and I'm not.
I thought he was taller actually, like 1.77, I must have read it wrong on one picture of his passport on Twitter.
Another thing to annoy me, not only are we the same age and from the same region, but e have the same height too. But he's president and I'm not.
I'm sure Rotschild is thrilled to have a Direct line to the Elysée ;-)
Hey, 1.73 isn't short. -_-
I thought he was taller actually, like 1.77, I must have read it wrong on one picture of his passport on Twitter.
Another thing to annoy me, not only are we the same age and from the same region, but e have the same height too. But he's president and I'm not.
Should have met with Atalli
He makes presidents, or so I heard
Regginator
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What a ridiculous thing to say. He fully made use of his democratic duty by saying he supports neither candidates. It would be a different story if he didn't vote all together, but he did. He just didn't pick Macron or Le Pen. Voting blanco is a perfectly reasonable, dare I say in this case even understandable, alternative.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Oh please. If there's a choice between someone you don't like and someone who wants to kill the EU and turn France into a Russian lapdog, a blank vote only portrays one message. That the voter played with the fate of an entire nation, just to "stick it to the system".
Being disappointed by politics is one thing, throwing everything into chaos "just because" is another.
Well, I guess those people can be happy others did vote for Macron. I'd also love to know how blank US voters feel about their "message" now.
Autodidact
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Is this sarcasm or casual anti-Semitic nonsense?
Muffin1611
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Seriously? You're one of the people spreading this Rotschild bullshit?
My thoughts exactly.
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