Oh no man..nah dude..thats off. Its more like end of the life cycle of xbox1 when developers were getting the most out of the system..that is what you can expect from Ouya's little machine. To say its closer to xbox 360/ps3 early stuff is just absurd man.
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OUYA - A new $99 console powered by Android [Kickstarter ended, $8.5 million funded]
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Oh no man..nah dude..thats off. Its more like end of the life cycle of xbox1 when developers were getting the most out of the system..that is what you can expect from Ouya's little machine. To say its closer to xbox 360/ps3 early stuff is just absurd man.
Looks like xbox1 games to me. None of them looks nowhere near polished as DOA3 or Gotham racing though.
Not at all. In fact, they all seemed like jokes at every stage of their development. Ouya is the first new company console since the original Xbox to not seem like a complete joke.
Xbox1 was much worse than you remember. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkxHOE_AQ8
The biggest weakness of the 6th generation of consoles was its inability to do HD graphics. On modern TVs they would look like complete crap. Ouya won't have this problem. EDIT: And they have too little VRAM, so texture quality would be shit too. Ouya has about 1GB of RAM compared to 64MB for Xbox 1.
I was excited for the OUYA when I first saw the kickstarter, and was even fully prepared to go in for the $150 special edition.
But at the last day of the Kickstarter, I backed out. I'm just not sure I see this as great as everyone is building it up to be, as first expected.
I think I'll prefer just playing games on my computer, and playing on the existing consoles for any game not on computer. There's just no room in my TV hookup for yet another console that I probably will only play once every month or so, compared to the Xbox360 and WiiU.
And now that there's Steam TV Support, that pretty much covers all bases.
All else, I've got my iPad.
Typing all that out makes me sound like a whiney spoiled brat. blech.
But at the last day of the Kickstarter, I backed out. I'm just not sure I see this as great as everyone is building it up to be, as first expected.
I think I'll prefer just playing games on my computer, and playing on the existing consoles for any game not on computer. There's just no room in my TV hookup for yet another console that I probably will only play once every month or so, compared to the Xbox360 and WiiU.
And now that there's Steam TV Support, that pretty much covers all bases.
All else, I've got my iPad.
Typing all that out makes me sound like a whiney spoiled brat. blech.
Android.
Bad example. Halo series never looked that great. Check out Otogi 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6wxMA6_9Pw
Panzer Dragoon Orta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXTsC-fz0O0
Kingdoms under Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgC8HzuT0TI
Low quality vids sadly. Games look much better in person, and about the level of the Tegra
Dreamwriter
Member
Who said anything about looking as good as the BEST looking early XBox 360 games? To refresh your memory, here are some early XBox 360 games:
Call of Duty 2
Peter Jackson's King Kong
Gun
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Amped 3
Those look nothing like what Tegra 3 games can reach. For instance: Shadowgun. The lack of real HD and VRAM are absolute killers for the Xbox 1 games in comparison. And to make sure, here is Panzer Dragoon Orta with a much better screen capture. It still looks nowhere close.
Canis lupus
Member
I'm not impressed with what Tegra 3 can do. At what resolution can they run like that?
Your golden example is Doom 3 with better lighting? Really?
It's an example for crying out loud.
Canis lupus
Member
They should go with Wayne.
It's all about the graphics, right? *sigh*
Why not? The innards of the PS3 are ancient by current technology standards. Tegra 3 is exceptional for its use in mobile devices. Most of its benefits are negated by putting it in a console.
To be fair, PDO ran at a silky smooth 60fps on Xbox.
Still, this is becoming an awful lot like the Wii U thread. Are people really going to be buying an Ouya for the graphics capabilities? I should imagine most people on here will be buying it as a cheap media box and not even for the games. In terms of gaming, I'm really not sure what Ouya is going to offer that the likes of Steam/360/PS3/Wii U can't.
You really that that people are going to make games of Uncharted-budget for the Ouya?
But you have to keep cost and size in mind. Ouya will be tiny. And i think it will be mostly a platform for indie development, not millon dollar budget games.
DiscoJer
Member
The main benefit of it is that it's cheap. It's not supposed to be a cutting edge piece of technology, it's supposed to be an accessible piece of technology, both for gamers and developers
I don't think many people still hook up their PC to their HD TV's. Many people don't spend 10 dollars for an adapter to hook up their phones to HD TV's. A phone today with bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and MHL adapter can but most don't.
Therefore, a box made just for hooking up to a TV is still relevant.
You don't seem to understand the philosophy behind OUYA.
Dreamwriter
Member
Cost me $30, and then another $40 for the USB adapter so I could use a PS3 controller in without rooting the device or hacking the controller... but, for $70 I turned my $600 Android Tablet into a $99 Ouya!
Vyse The Legend
Member
The Steam Box is inevitable. I would not be surprised if it's announced before the Ouya ships.
Make a quick buck?
Yeah. After this discussion I don't think I do. Between a robust PC and an ipad I don't see what purpose it serves. You could probably dumpster dive a PC with more power than this thing.
Hm... interesting. I wonder if they are simply referring to the username reservations or if it is something else like a big partnership or game.
Games, emulators, media player, HTPC etc. What more do you want? Graphiczzz?
Games, emulators, media player, HTPC etc. What more do you want? Graphiczzz?
Well, to be fair, my $200 laptop powered with C2D can do everything you mentioned above.
Yes, but is your laptop open source and hackable with a built in dev-kit, are all games F2P, are all games optimized for the hardware and is your laptop around the size of a Rubik's cube? Oh, and does it cost $99 and comes with a wireless controller with a built in trackpad? Answer: No.
DiscoJer
Member
Eh. I just want to play all the various mobile games I read about, with buttons. Seems like iOS and Android are getting a lot of interesting stuff these days.
Will a lot of the Android stuff make it to Ouya? Maybe not, but worth a try. Cheaper than the Wikipad or that Archos game tablet...
Will a lot of the Android stuff make it to Ouya? Maybe not, but worth a try. Cheaper than the Wikipad or that Archos game tablet...
Yes, but is your laptop open source and hackable with a built in dev-kit, are all games F2P, are all games optimized for the hardware and is your laptop around the size of a Rubik's cube? Oh, and does it cost $99 and comes with a wireless controller with a built in trackpad? Answer: No.
Sigh.
Laptops can run linux and other open source OSs, Windows and Linux SDKs are freely available, not all Ouya games are F2P! and I doubt much work will go into optimizing for the hardware.
Sure a laptop is not as cheap or small, but it is much more powerful and has a screen.
PapaJustify
Member
You are not wrong, but the real question is: why has there always been a market for consoles and handhelds when you basically just had to hook up your laptop to your TV to get so many beautiful things with more power?
The answer is much diverse, but it has to do with form factor, price and platform optimization.
There is probably a lot of games that will do this, but this doesn't need to be the rule. And I really prefer, when I can try a game before I purchase it. The problems with Demos as we know them is that they cost extra to produce and were often based on unfinished, not optimzed code. In that context you get more like a full game trial. And that is a nice concept in my eyes.
"Can"... yes, but that's not what I asked you.
All games will be F2P and all games will be fully optimized, according to the OUYA creator Julie Uhrman.
This sounds like something feasible five years from now. This does make me wonder- what the fuck are MS / Sony thinking by going so low powered next-gen
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iceatcs
Junior Member
You mean they only accept F2P games? What about non-free apps? That will too much limit."Can"... yes, but that's not what I asked you.
All games will be F2P and all games will be fully optimized, according to the OUYA creator Julie Uhrman.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Meaning that all games must offer free demo play, F2P/freemium structure, or some other way to try out the game first before spending any money. Games can be traditional, but have to offer trial or demo play on day one. This is just like MS enforcing mandatory demos for XBLA. Totally pro-consumer in this regard.
Yes.