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Overwatch |OT| My Onlywatch Has Ended
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Glass Shark
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How could you even test and prove this is a "common problem?"
TheCanisDirus
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Yup. It's a HUGE deal for an online competitive shooter!!
Boke18 on PS4. Might not get it day 1, but I just saw Gamestop has a trade in deal towards this game. SO I might just pick it up in a few hours lol
Sorry if you feel like the game is more enjoyable with behind cover kills and giant hitboxes.
The rest of us, who have been enjoying a tight experience on competitive fast paced FPS, would like as little bullshit as possible.
Yes indeed.
60Hz would be the bare minimum to be honest.
You could tell by playing the game?
There were constant cases where you got hit by bs because of tickrate and how the server - client communication handles it.
While what you are saying is true, Blizzard probably wants to optimize their servers for a larger playerbase/higher server stability.
So you have absolutely no idea what tickrate is?
Finaika
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I get lower framerates and some slight-but-noticeable input lag in borderless window compared to dedicated fullscreen. I played for a while with it, but I think it's mainly the higher framerates in fullscreen that are contributing to a snappier feel. The higher the fps the higher the input polling from the mouse.
Tick rates make game feels smoother as well as hit registration.
Hitting outside the tick rate will yield in fired bullets doing nothing and if you i.e throw down a bomb and die outside the tick it might vanish and do nothing.
No excuse for a company like Blizzard.
At least let me MM custom games then. Give me a server browser.
Fuk yo ranked play if it wont feature over 20 tick. I'll MM my own non-ranked custom games at 60 tick.
Glass Shark
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Anecdotes are not data.
Stone Ocean
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So tickrate is basically the competitive FPS equivalent of input lag in fighting games.
That sounds shitty. Is it something that can be fixed through an update?
That sounds shitty. Is it something that can be fixed through an update?
Shake Appeal
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Compared to most other shooters on the market, it is not at all a meatgrinder. Obviously it depends on individual matchups, but there is a lot of potential for extended duels, especially when faster heroes go 1v1 (Tracer v Tracer, Genji v Genji).
LurkerPrime
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Is it too late?
Overwatch |OT| 20 ticks and Bastion ain't one
Overwatch |OT| 20 ticks and Bastion ain't one
The tickrate being 20 is all the data you need.
Glass Shark
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I fully understand the concept. I think it's an overstated problem.
For people who don't know why people are salty about the tickrate:
Yeah but it's not "Free"... it's not that Blizzy doesnt know how to type: "serverTickRate = 60hz;"
Can be added after release i guess.
ViewtifulJC
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20 tick servers with no server browser
IN 2016
IN 2016
TheChillyAcademic
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I CANNOT BELIEVE TODAY IS THE DAY
Well remember if you havent added yourself to the DOC yet to do so! And you PS4 players let me know!
I will do so!
Well remember if you havent added yourself to the DOC yet to do so! And you PS4 players let me know!
I will do so!
Right, I really hope Blizzard will improve on both, and allow people to host their own server with their own rules.
backflip10019
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What?
What do you even need besides knowing how ticks and hz work?
Yes. 20.8
I didn't do the analyzing.
Shake Appeal
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It's something that would be "fixed" by Blizzard/Activision ponying up for more bandwidth.
In practice, when someone says tickrate robbed them of a kill, they are almost always kidding themselves; we're dealing with margins that are unnoticeable to the overwhelming majority of people. It would be very nice to have, but it is not a dealbreaker. Even in 2016, more problems are caused by shoddy networking, ur mom streaming Netflix, or simple geography than a low tickrate.
Dance Inferno
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People on the internet like to complain. A lot. It's kind of annoying. The game feels fine and plays well. Making all the servers 60 tickrate will increase their server costs significantly, and that's unnecessary.
JetBlackPanda
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I wish my beta file could be converted to retail so I don't have to DL a 10 gig patch tonight.
oh well.
oh well.
Yeh those things really hurt, I really like to join community servers and play with the same people all the time. But with the stupid matchmaking its just random dudes.
Tell that to early BF3 players.
All the anecdotes in the world for your pleasure and they meant a damn.
It is absolutely an excuse. It makes no sense to have all their servers ramped up to handle the launch load with 60 ticks when the vast majority of players don't even care. It's a business decision.
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Deleted member 325805
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It should be 64 for casual and 128 for ranked, if not 128 for both. If you've ever played CS GO the registry difference between an official server vs a good custom one is night and day.
Zomba13
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But we have the data. We know it's a tick rate of 20. It's not some big secret or incorrect theory. We know how tick rate affects gameplay in an online shooter as Overwatch isn't the first shooter played online, so we have a variety of different games with different tick rates for their servers we can compare and contrast with and use as "data".
Appreciate the explanation guys
Certainly hope it's addressed and upped some point soon.
Seems like they are not acknowledging the problem @livestream.
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Deleted member 325805
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They're banking on the masses being ignorant to the problem.
bbkkristian
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Oooo cool. I'll be online to play today: PSN: bbkkristian
ViewtifulJC
Banned
They're right. Most people will just hop online to pick their favorite waifus, no idea about input lag, tickrates, ping, etc
Not this bullshit again. Literally nothing about this picture is correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO6Ky-w0UQ
heres a video that goes a bit more in-depth about the server tick issue and what it can cause. At 9 minutes it shows how a lower server tick rate can result in issues where you can die behind cover because the server still thinks you're out in the open.
heres a video that goes a bit more in-depth about the server tick issue and what it can cause. At 9 minutes it shows how a lower server tick rate can result in issues where you can die behind cover because the server still thinks you're out in the open.
Watched it several times. Interpolapoaidaw dont make up for a low tick rate like they seem to make it out to be. It simply smooths movement between ticks but server ONLY sees the tick rate like in the image above, meaning everything between those tick frames is "ghosting"
Well if they had casual at 20 and allowed matchmaking at 60 or have people rent servers and up it to 128 at their own cost i'd have no issue.
As it stands right now both casual and ranked got 20.8 tick and custom have a option for 60.
Truth!
And thats a relative "slow" game compared to OW
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