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Overwatch |OT2| A New Low in Unlocking and Microtransaction Systems

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Zereta

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Man, no one ever seems to vote for objective time/kills. I actually get kind of self-conscious if I get the objective time card specifically (which I do a lot, since I play tons of Lucio). It feels like the participation award of Overwatch, even though it's actually super important.

I know the feel.

But no, turns out the lone Genji who keeps spamming the Heal button while he's all the way on the other side of the map and not with the team doing god knows what is getting bitter.

The amount of times my team just decides to break from the objective to chase butterflies... Though it's made me a much better Lucio player, weaving in and out, bouncing around, stalling till my team decides to play the game again.
 

nOoblet16

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This game would be so more fun if Bastion and Widowmaker were removed entirely and the tracking and health of turrets was nerfed. Every attack game has become the exact same in public games.
It will always be something you know, if it wasn't this you'd be dealing with something else and wishing for it to be removed because it's all you see in pubs.
 
There's a new game mode, how did I miss that announcement?



Will do, thanks!

EDIT: Not seeing it, but my work browser is crappy sometimes.

You need to quote the original OP, in the quoted box do a ctrl-F or cmd-f and search for "GAF User ID List" - you'll see the google doc link right next to it.

It's hidden so only GAF members can see it when they quote the post
 
No character needs removed. Hell, for a first pass the balance isn't even that bad. Right now I think at normal human levels, McCree is obviously a big issue and at higher levels Widowmaker is a real problem. Other than that it's just some minor tweaks that are needed.
 

ExVicis

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This game would be so more fun if Bastion and Widowmaker were removed entirely and the tracking and health of turrets was nerfed. Every attack game has become the exact same in public games.

The turrets are perfectly fine though. The tracking is needed for them to be effective in the roles they are needed for. If you nerfed the tracking Tracer would run circles around the turret and she would have nothing to fear from it.

Bastion is also fine too, I have no idea how people this far into the game's life are still bothered by him. It's not as if Bastion is instantaneous at shooting like the turret.
 

npanciroli

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The turrets are perfectly fine though. The tracking is needed for them to be effective in the roles they are needed for. If you nerfed the tracking Tracer would run circles around the turret and she would have nothing to fear from it.

Bstion is also fine too, I have no idea how people this far into the game's life are still bothered by him.

For me on PC, it's just Widowmaker and McCree's fan. Everything else is fine.
 

ExVicis

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It will always be something you know, if it wasn't this you'd be dealing with something else and wishing for it to be removed because it's all you see in pubs.

NOoblet is spot on. If the Tor turret was gone Tracer would reign supreme and be the most complained about hero right now because nothing would be able to stop her. If Bastion got nerfed, Reinhardt and his shield pushing with team support would be almost unbeatable as nothing would be able to break through it.

For me on PC, it's just Widowmaker and McCree's fan. Everything else is fine.
This I do agree on. Fan the Hammer is way too good and a Widowmaker that can kinda aim body shots basically makes playing any support that isn't Lucio just impossible
 

Sane_Man

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The turrets are perfectly fine though. The tracking is needed for them to be effective in the roles they are needed for. If you nerfed the tracking Tracer would run circles around the turret and she would have nothing to fear from it.

Bastion is also fine too, I have no idea how people this far into the game's life are still bothered by him. It's not as if Bastion is instantaneous at shooting like the turret.

Have you played many public games? Particularly when he's behind a shield or surrounded by turrets. You can't even peak around to shoot him since he can take you down in literally an instant. A good Genji can ruin him but finding a good Genji in pubs is rare as hell.

The fact that ever single attack game has you facing a bastion and at least 1 and usually 2 turrets shows it's a problem. If it didn't almost always work people would stop doing it every time. When I play with gaffers it's not a problem at all but you need coordination to beat the combo.
 
Is the competitive playing that we can watch ONLY PC or does anyone know where we can watch competitive console Overwatch.

The more I read and watch...they are turning into quite different types of games.

Makes me curious as to if Blizzard will nerf the same and buff the same consistently on both platforms or if they will be more selective in what they change?
 

mbpm1

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NOoblet is spot on. If the Tor turret was gone Tracer would reign supreme and be the most complained about hero right now because nothing would be able to stop her. If Bastion got nerfed, Reinhardt and his shield pushing with team support would be almost unbeatable as nothing would be able to break through it.

McCree and to some extent Mei would be able to stop Tracer though

Reinhardt + team support already wreck Bastions too
 

QFNS

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For anyone playing casually or by themselves the Brawl/Random Mode this week is GLORIOUS.

Forcing everyone to play random heroes is a great mode, that I would probably play constantly if it was available.
 

ExVicis

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Have you played many public games? Particularly when he's behind a shield or surrounded by turrets. You can't even peak around to shoot him since he can take you down in literally an instant. A good Genji can ruin him but finding a good Genji in pubs is rare as hell.

All I play are Pub Solo Queues. I have maybe 7 games total under my belt that are in a premade group.

What you're describing is teamwork, something that's sometimes in short supply in Pubs and the only way to counter teamwork is with...well more Teamwork. A quick Pharah pusback followed by good Junkrat shots could counter that situation you said. Or a Hanzo Ult on that position usually followed up by the faster flankers moving into to mop up whoever didn't die. The only reason that strat is sometimes tough to beat is because people just hit their head against the wall trying to take it down solo.
 
You need to quote the original OP, in the quoted box do a ctrl-F or cmd-f and search for "GAF User ID List" - you'll see the google doc link right next to it.

It's hidden so only GAF members can see it when they quote the post


Valuable!

Also...are there any GAF PS4 Overwatch groups that someone might have made? Is that listed on there too and I just don't see it?
 

ExVicis

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McCree and to some extent Mei would be able to stop Tracer though

Reinhardt + team support already wreck Bastions too

Eh sometimes, a lot of the time I see Reinhardts panic when their shield gets low and they'll usually leave their support high and dry to get mowed down by running for cover or panic charging.

But even in cases where the team actually stays with Reinhardt and they kill you, it's usually enough time to rip the shield apart since I think it's maybe around 3 seconds of continuous fire to break the thing as Bastion.



Also I'm finding now that the better Tracers use their recall to bait out the Flashbang and then when that's gone move in for the kill.
 
Same question. The list in OP doesn't even mention who's on PS4. I noticed a lot of BNet IDs so they're all PC probably.


No no...check the tabs at the bottom of the google doc. There's a PS4 tab. The idea of adding everyone manually however gives me chest pains.
 

Sane_Man

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All I play are Pub Solo Queues. I have maybe 7 games total under my belt that are in a premade group.

What you're describing is teamwork, something that's sometimes in short supply in Pubs and the only way to counter teamwork is with...well more Teamwork. A quick Pharah pusback followed by good Junkrat shots could counter that situation you said. Or a Hanzo Ult on that position usually followed up by the faster flankers moving into to mop up whoever didn't die. The only reason that strat is sometimes tough to beat is because people just hit their head against the wall trying to take it down solo.

The problem is defending with that set up takes barely any team work and attacking against it takes a shit ton. The odds are so stacked against the attacking team unless they're all talking and it ends up meaning all the games are played the same way.

I'd like to see stats on the successful attacks in public games as opposed to defence. I imagine it's ridiculously skewed in favour of defence. I know in competition it's like 75 percent in the favour of attacking but that's with pre made teams who all talk to each other.
 
Same question. The list in OP doesn't even mention who's on PS4. I noticed a lot of BNet IDs so they're all PC probably.

Valuable!

Also...are there any GAF PS4 Overwatch groups that someone might have made? Is that listed on there too and I just don't see it?
Eh?

The Google Doc in the OP has PS4 players. You need to click to the PS4 tab on the bottom of the window.

If you want to avoid adding everyone, we can add you to the group message thread if you want (you'll probably want to turn message notifications off if you join though).
 
Eh?

The Google Doc in the OP has PS4 players. You need to click to the PS4 tab on the bottom of the window.

If you want to avoid adding everyone, we can add you to the group message thread if you want (you'll probably want to turn message notifications off if you join though).

Where's this? I wouldn't mind getting in on it to make it easier to find games with ya'll
 

Voorhees

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Valuable!

Also...are there any GAF PS4 Overwatch groups that someone might have made? Is that listed on there too and I just don't see it?

Same question. The list in OP doesn't even mention who's on PS4. I noticed a lot of BNet IDs so they're all PC probably.

Search Overwatch GAF Community on the Communites Section of your Friends screen and join. Once you've joined you can access it and click L1 to see if any parties are formed. Jump in, say hey and if they are full say "Throw me an invite if someone drops"
 

mbpm1

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Eh sometimes, a lot of the time I see Reinhardts panic when their shield gets low and they'll usually leave their support high and dry to get mowed down by running for cover or panic charging.

But even in cases where the team actually stays with Reinhardt and they kill you, it's usually enough time to rip the shield apart since I think it's maybe around 3 seconds of continuous fire to break the thing as Bastion.

If the team has a soldier and/or a widowmaker who's competant you won't get 3 seconds of firetime I've found though.

Still okay, but not the absolute counter
 
Eh?

The Google Doc in the OP has PS4 players. You need to click to the PS4 tab on the bottom of the window.

If you want to avoid adding everyone, we can add you to the group message thread if you want (you'll probably want to turn message notifications off if you join though).

That would be fantastic. Please add me.

PSN = bigdaddygamebot
 
PSA, if you're Mercy and you see (friendly) Junkrat doing his ult, damage buff him. It translates the boost to the tire and gives you assists.

Does this apply to all deployables?

Can I combo Symmetra and Mercy?

*gasp*

Why do people keep picking Junkrat on attack? omg pls stop

Because he's excellent on attack? The concussion mine is great for fucking up positions, and that grenade spam is fantastic for handling entrenched positions.
 
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