Kor of Memory
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Heh, I'm 3 for 5 on that list. I'd probably be 4 for 5, but people verbally notify me how much they don't want me to play Ana.
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Overwatch |OT5| 15 Million Strong, None Are On The Payload
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Heh, I'm 3 for 5 on that list. I'd probably be 4 for 5, but people verbally notify me how much they don't want me to play Ana.
Bastion as hero needs some retooling to be more viable at high-end play. Maybe give his reckon mode some useful abilities.
Junkrat(Only on Anubis defense)
Zarya
Lucio
Reaper
Zenyatta
Reinhardt
DVA
Roadhog
That's the rough order of things I'll pick in comp. Junkrat is at the top, because I seem to be unstoppable in that righthand room of the first chokepoint on Anubis. It's also subject to my team to some degree.
I really want to get better with the following:
Mei - She's just brutal if played well, and is fairly self-sufficient
MeCree/Soldier - Need to get better in general with mid-range hitscan so I can be a Pharah counter, or more reliably shoot out support without having to dive.
I had a guy message me on XBL the other day asking why I sabotaged the match with my Ana pick. I replied that I had 6k healing in one round, and our tanks were awful. He replied later on apologizing, so oh well.
We didn't move the Payload past the bridge before the gas station on 66. I've never seen such a group of incompetent tanks. The Rein never lowered his shield to fight, and the RH let their Genji run wild, so frustrating.
Garrett Hawke
Member
So I guess this is kind of a side discussion to the current balance but I hope they never implement alternate weapons for characters. I really like that when I hear footsteps, when I see a silhouette, I know what I'm getting and I know how to react to that.
I think it's probably one of the reasons I've stuck with Overwatch for so long. While it certainly has it's "most usefuls", I like that the most useful characters all play differently so everyone doesn't just run around with the optimal weapon + perk. I hated Destiny's PvP so much because I felt like even in the non-levelled PvP if you didn't have a good roll on your gear or the right exotic there was literally no point in playing it.
I think it's probably one of the reasons I've stuck with Overwatch for so long. While it certainly has it's "most usefuls", I like that the most useful characters all play differently so everyone doesn't just run around with the optimal weapon + perk. I hated Destiny's PvP so much because I felt like even in the non-levelled PvP if you didn't have a good roll on your gear or the right exotic there was literally no point in playing it.
I agree, I really hope they won't ruin it like what valve did with TF2. When you face against Widowmaker or Pharah, you know what to expect from them.
I agree, but I would be down with alternative ults for all characters.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Alternate weapons (like in TF2) are functionally different characters. They'll never do alternate weapons; they'll just add new characters.
Terareflection
Member
Is anyone else having problems with their replay functions such as POTG?
Poodlestrike
Banned
Blizz seems to be operating in a parallel universe regarding Symm. They think she's fine on Defense and viable on attack. I'm not sure they'd hear the question properly.
I agree Bastion needs something, but giving him a tool that makes him even more camping-centric seems like a misstep to me. I'm frankly not sure what to do for him other than totally start from the drawing board. Maybe make his Recon form extra mobile?
Florida_Man_5000
Member
They need to make a hero that can lift and carry other hero's for short distances. Like getting a symmetry past choke on offense to lay up a teleporter behind defences.
Florida_Man_5000
Member
Maybe Bastion should always be tank with reduced damage attack but transform to turret with increased damage for special. Give him an alternate fire in tank mode like smoke and remove health regeneration. He's already a glass cannon character. Health regeneration is rarely useful in time necessary for high level play.
TheLetdown
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Quad solo kill by Zarya or Mercy 2x rez and then straight back to healing a full health Zen for POTG?
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i had a quad kill with Reaper and they gave it to Rein who was Nanoboosted and killed one dude. POTG is kinda unpredictable these days.
Not always. Had a crazy KotH once, enemy team was 2-2-2 (D.Va, Rein, Mercy, Lucio, Soldier, Tracer), we lost the first 2 rounds (wouldn't group up, tank and healer were always left alone) and switched to Soldier, Reaper, Genji, Junkrat, Bastion and me on Tracer when round 3 started.
Won the next 3 rounds. It was epic and insane.
each of those 4 guys is totally the best dps player so they can't be the one to change.
MarioHead3
Banned
The comp doesn't matter if the team isn't actually playing like a team.
I was talking in an ideal "we're even skill" situation to say how bad that advice was. You guys obviously played those characters better against them, moreso saying "go into solo queue with these characters because they can be used with an awful team!" is a really bad mentality to enter solo with.
Sort of does? See above for my reasoning though. Was saying that their list was against playing like a team. Obviously teamwork>tiers in most cases, but it's worth noting at the least.
Kor of Memory
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How I would fix Bastion:
Bastion - Recon
Alt-Fire: Personal Space(Bastion puts his arms out and spins rapidly in a helicopter like motion, doing two or three melee hits in his immediate vicinity.)
Ability 1: Convert (Switch to Sentry mode)
Ability 2: Repair (Bastion heals himself over a period of time)
Bastion - Sentry
Alt-Fire: Spin Up (Lets Bastion spin up so he can fire at a faster rate when he's ready. Audible to the other team.)
Ability 1: Convert (Switch to Recon mode)
Ability 2: EM Pulse (AoE knockback from Bastion that does a small amount of damage, about the size of Winstons Bubble)
I figure the Recon Alt-Fire would be great for keeping people away from getting up in his face.
The Spin Up ability should let Bastion increase his initial DPS, but only for a very small period of time, and the overheat means it has a cooldown.
The EM Pulse shouldn't really do a lot of damage. Like, maybe 25hp worth. The idea is something to put some distance between you and whoever while you convert and try to escape.
Bastion doesn't need to heal himself while he is a turret. Either his healers should get him, or he needs to switch to recon and change position anyway.
Valve should reboot TF2. Keep the 9 classes, but have variations like Mortal Kombat X with a distinct character for each one. For example, classic Heavy with his minigun and Old Time Heavy with a hammer, but both fulfilling the same kind of role.
I love your reckon suggestions, but I think the sentry mode should be left as it is right now. It's supposed to take players by surprise.
Kor of Memory
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The spin up is a choice, and doesn't have to be used, but Basiton should be changing positions constantly to maintain that element of surprise.
MarioHead3
Banned
I think they meant more like an "In case of an emergency, use these heroes" sort of thing. Not just instalock one of them every single solo queue match.
Going in always expecting competent teammates also doesn't exactly help, so it's not a bad idea to have a backup plan in case things go south.
Incendiary
Banned
This is basically why I've stuck with Overwatch when every other multiplayer game I've grown tired of relatively quickly. I hate maining and love playing different styles when given the option in a game (and also why I tend to create jack-of-all-trades characters when possible in WRPGs).
I've divided the roster into three types of playable characters: starting choices, counter choices, and hail mary choices - or rather characters I'm great with, characters I'm good with but others might be better - but I'll switch to them if we need one for a counter and nobody else is playing them, and characters I'm okay with but we desperately need a way to break the stalemate and this character is our best shot at that.
Great: Junkrat, Symmetra, D.Va, Tracer, Reaper, Winston
Good: Lucio, Zenyatta, Ana, Reinhardt, Mei, 76, Pharah
Okay: Genji, Mercy, Zarya, Hanzo, Roadhog
Won't Play unless it's QP and having fun: McCree, Bastion, Torbjorn, Widow
So I'm basically comfortable with 13 of 22 characters, and if I end up having to play as one of the other 9 in a comp match my team is probably fucked.
backflip10019
Member
Are the servers messed up or something on Xbox? Says there are 20,000 players ahead of me in line to connect to the server lol
LordAmused
Member
Battle Net servers are still having trouble. PC here.
optimus8936
Banned
Alright. 2984 and I'm finally going for it. Hollywood. Thank fuck it's not KOTH. I have bad luck on those maps for some reason.
LETS DO THIS BOYZ
LETS DO THIS BOYZ
Bumbletron
Member
If you were thinking about trying out the Paladins Beta to see how it compares to OW: Don't.
OW is better in every way, and for a team game, there isn't really any reason to play as a team or build your comp around it. The characters have way too much going on in their skillsets, and the hitscan boxes are at least as big as OW's projectile boxes. They also fucked up rocket speed.
OW is better in every way, and for a team game, there isn't really any reason to play as a team or build your comp around it. The characters have way too much going on in their skillsets, and the hitscan boxes are at least as big as OW's projectile boxes. They also fucked up rocket speed.
You got this! Maybe! Depending on randoms!
I hope player rng is on your side. Make it to diamond for me!
optimus8936
Banned
Screw randoms
Our Mercy switches to Soldier when she could've saved the game with res.
WHY BLIZZARD
Our Mercy switches to Soldier when she could've saved the game with res.
WHY BLIZZARD
optimus8936
Banned
Seriously.
73-11. 25000 damage.
Probably the best game I've had as Zarya.
We steamrolled on offense, then decided Rein, Bastion, and Mercy was a good idea and never won a team fight on defense.
73-11. 25000 damage.
Probably the best game I've had as Zarya.
We steamrolled on offense, then decided Rein, Bastion, and Mercy was a good idea and never won a team fight on defense.
Blizzard has to rework the way Ana is recognized. I do 8k healing and out heal our Lucio, but the only card our team gets is 1,500 dmg reflection from Genji? Then I of course get angry messages from teammates, lol.
Or better yet just add a fucking scoreboard so these plebs can see its not always the fault of an unpopular pick.
Or better yet just add a fucking scoreboard so these plebs can see its not always the fault of an unpopular pick.
down to 2125...
I like this Gif
Wyndstryker
Member
Cause that Mercy is actually a Blizzard employee there to sabotage your ascent. They're onto you.
they're actually bots that were included when people are about to hit the next tier and screw them over.
I have hundreds of hour on Lucio and I still have not gotten a PotG with my Ult. Most of the cards revolve around Elims which sucks.
This is me the last 2 days. ]:down to 2125...
optimus8936
Banned
Of course I steamrolled the NEXT match. Let's try this again.
*sees attack Widow*
*flips table*
thx Nuno 
*sees attack Widow*
*flips table*
Ok, what happened? I've been encountering a FUCKLOAD of Mercy+Reinhardt+Bastion combos during the last week. They have all worked too and I feel super frustrated. It shouldn't work. It should be easy to counter if I could just organize my soloq team to deal with it. It can be done but it NEEDS hero changes from our side but no one ever changes. Can anyone tell me a braindead easy way to deal with the bastion cheese combo? I'm so sick of it pummeling me and my teams. This is especially frustrating on numbani where they'll hole up in that spot with two entrances to a small room.
MarioHead3
Banned
down to 2125...
I don't know why, but this deeply disturbs me.
down to 2125...
Wasn't you 2600 yesterday? lol
Of course I steamrolled the NEXT match. Let's try this again.thx Nuno
*sees attack Widow*
*flips table*
Lol if I somehow get diamond before you.
Reaper/Genji should be dealing with that easy. Surprise attack on Bastion and Mercy/Reinhardt can't do anything about it.
Of course I steamrolled the NEXT match. Let's try this again.thx Nuno
*sees attack Widow*
*flips table*
I normally give the attack Widow a chance. But then again, I'm on PC
optimus8936
Banned
Ok, attack widow worked, sorry for doubting that person
Now for defense. Let the sweat begin.
Now for defense. Let the sweat begin.
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