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Thank them for the free exp, curse at them for the free loss.
Surprised to see Soldier less often.
It's so sad how this guy has this line in every one of his reports, and yet competitive mode is full of people doing exactly this.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I still don't have that much trouble attacking into syms honestly.
Helps that some of them still put down teleporter for whatever reason.
But if your team is reasonably co-ordinated and reasonably aggressive she's not impossible to deal with.
Things is, they have 75 shields.
I can throw down 100 health for a group and pump in 150 health per second individually.
I'd be fucked if the teams run an ana to accompany sym but people still think lucio can be a solo healer for whatever reason.
Helps that some of them still put down teleporter for whatever reason.
But if your team is reasonably co-ordinated and reasonably aggressive she's not impossible to deal with.
Things is, they have 75 shields.
I can throw down 100 health for a group and pump in 150 health per second individually.
I'd be fucked if the teams run an ana to accompany sym but people still think lucio can be a solo healer for whatever reason.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
Member
I got screwed by a server disconnect and a disconnected team member yesterday on two matches we were sure to win but I recovered and made it to nearly 2600 in the end. I started grouping once I got around 2500 so that helped a lot. I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel...
They fixed the support issue in season 2 but unfortunately the player distribution among ranks was terrible. Season 3 is almost completely based on your ending rank from season 2 with some adjustments to spread players out across the entire spectrum of ranks. People still complain but season 3 seems better for most people so far other than the terrible tank meta.
I love these. I'm still sad I didn't get the vampire Pachimari player icon from the Halloween event.
it's the matchmaking train coming to send me back to elo hell.
They fixed the support issue in season 2 but unfortunately the player distribution among ranks was terrible. Season 3 is almost completely based on your ending rank from season 2 with some adjustments to spread players out across the entire spectrum of ranks. People still complain but season 3 seems better for most people so far other than the terrible tank meta.
This little guy gives me life.
I love these. I'm still sad I didn't get the vampire Pachimari player icon from the Halloween event.
Shake Appeal
Member
TimeEffect
Member
I hate having to play arcade for loot boxes
When are they going to allow loot for any mode played
When are they going to allow loot for any mode played
This shit happens in Gold too.
I pick one healer, then everyone else picks a DPS. We get maybe one tank if we're lucky, and it's usually not Reinhardt. Then everyone dives headfirst into the other team because they all expect me to be pocketing them exclusively.
Then I get yelled at for not keeping everyone alive because there's always a Winston or a Tracer on my ass.
There was one game in competitive where we won fairly easily because the other team apparently didn't realize no one was playing a healer on their side.
That's when you switch to the hero you have the most fun with and (often, in my experience) win with a crazy no-healer no-tank comp.
Human Trashcan
Banned
I've been saying since I started playing they should make QP count towards them, at least. Though it's a miserable experience getting those 9 wins anyhow. 3v3 is the only tolerable mode.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
Member
I haven't had much trouble beating teams with Symmetra in comp yet but I did draw an Eichenwalde and Hollywood match. If you don't capture within the first 2 minutes you are going to have a bad time. I think you really need to take the other team down fast because once the generator is up things can be problematic even if you eventually destroy it. I've found that Sombra is pretty good for getting behind enemy lines, finding the generator and destroying it, but you are giving up a lot of time and resources to do so and leaving your team to 5v6. As Symmetra, I think I've lost 1 of 8 games with 2 draws.
In QP I had a Symmetra on KOTH that never put up a generator or a teleporter across three rounds of play. I thought they might be trolling but they were in a 3-stack and it didn't seem like it. I've also seen a lot of Symmetra's using teleporter in QP and even got yelled at once for not using teleporter on first point when I put down the generator (we won).
In QP I had a Symmetra on KOTH that never put up a generator or a teleporter across three rounds of play. I thought they might be trolling but they were in a 3-stack and it didn't seem like it. I've also seen a lot of Symmetra's using teleporter in QP and even got yelled at once for not using teleporter on first point when I put down the generator (we won).
divisionbyzorro
Member
Nobody forgets their first meatspin.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
TBF I've also had some pretty good success running sym on defense myself, so ymmv.
I've had teams break through even when shield generator is up though, but it does buy a good bit of time usually. 75 shields still mean nothing if the enemy team can combo ults correctly.
I don't see her as super impossible to counter, at least at my level.
I've had teams break through even when shield generator is up though, but it does buy a good bit of time usually. 75 shields still mean nothing if the enemy team can combo ults correctly.
I don't see her as super impossible to counter, at least at my level.
I've had teams be able to counter her on payload maps, but never on 2CP maps. I'm not sure what the difference is. That's QP though, not Comp.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Static defenses. That's where she excels. Which is why i still don't like her on attack.
Human Trashcan
Banned
2CP was already sort of miserable but Symm has made it even worse. The other day in comp I had a draw on Anubis, both teams never capped the first point. Hanamura is now Draw City as well. It's just not fun.
divisionbyzorro
Member
One thing I don't like about Sym right now is that the shield generator is just so much better than the teleporter. I honestly can't figure out why I would ever use the teleporter over the generator right now.
Newtype-001
Member
Yup i clearly jinxed it.
Wouldnt be surprised at this rate if i fall outta diamond.
People just do not care lol picking widow on anubis defence for A and B then another player switching to bastion then last minute going reinhardt.
Same widow on attack doing nothing. We tell her at the start if it doesnt work switch goes the full round attack widow. Wow
We cant push aswell cause team thinks 3dps 1 healer 1 tank is fine lol.
Wouldnt be surprised at this rate if i fall outta diamond.
People just do not care lol picking widow on anubis defence for A and B then another player switching to bastion then last minute going reinhardt.
Same widow on attack doing nothing. We tell her at the start if it doesnt work switch goes the full round attack widow. Wow
We cant push aswell cause team thinks 3dps 1 healer 1 tank is fine lol.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
Member
Yeah, I still wouldn't run Symmetra on attack. While it can work and I've had success with it on Hanamura, I would not recommend it. You give up way too much to risk using a solo healer or replacing a DPS or tank.
Speaking of Symmetra in general, the generator is way too good to ever use the teleporter unless out of pure desperation. Teleporter is laughable now. The moving barrier is good for engages and chasing but doesn't feel that great to use and looks kind of ridiculous. The cooldown feels kind of long too. Once the generator is up, it's hard to not want to build a turret nest around it to help protect it but in doing so you are giving up some of your more useful tools. I've started leaving it unprotected in most situations. The extended beam range on her primary fire is great and was definitely needed though.
Symmetra still feels like a defense character rather than a support character, but she still seems to fit best in comps with a solo healer. I love new Symmetra but wish they spent a little more time tweaking things.
Speaking of Symmetra in general, the generator is way too good to ever use the teleporter unless out of pure desperation. Teleporter is laughable now. The moving barrier is good for engages and chasing but doesn't feel that great to use and looks kind of ridiculous. The cooldown feels kind of long too. Once the generator is up, it's hard to not want to build a turret nest around it to help protect it but in doing so you are giving up some of your more useful tools. I've started leaving it unprotected in most situations. The extended beam range on her primary fire is great and was definitely needed though.
Symmetra still feels like a defense character rather than a support character, but she still seems to fit best in comps with a solo healer. I love new Symmetra but wish they spent a little more time tweaking things.
LucidMomentum
Member
Yesterday was not a good day for me ranked wise.
Started at 2590, ended up at 2545.
I think I won like 2 matches last night out of 6.
Kind of a bummer, but I really didn't lose much SR since I was playing my heart out.
I think the point at which I called it a night was when I was playing S76, and the other team's Pharah with a pocket Mercy was too smart to ever let me find her. So I pick off other enemies but of course whenever she gets a kill and hides again the all chat is "WHY CAN'T SOLDIER KILL PHARAH?"
They tell me to switch off so I do, then someone else takes S76, proceeds to get zero kills for half the round and then switches to Genji.
Still had gold elims as a Lucio by the end of that match. I gave up.
Started at 2590, ended up at 2545.
I think I won like 2 matches last night out of 6.
Kind of a bummer, but I really didn't lose much SR since I was playing my heart out.
I think the point at which I called it a night was when I was playing S76, and the other team's Pharah with a pocket Mercy was too smart to ever let me find her. So I pick off other enemies but of course whenever she gets a kill and hides again the all chat is "WHY CAN'T SOLDIER KILL PHARAH?"
They tell me to switch off so I do, then someone else takes S76, proceeds to get zero kills for half the round and then switches to Genji.
Still had gold elims as a Lucio by the end of that match. I gave up.
edgefusion
Member
Everyone else's Roadhog> Hook, one shot kill
My Roadhog > Hook, pea-sized sliver of health done as damage, target escapes
My Roadhog > Hook, pea-sized sliver of health done as damage, target escapes
Psychoward
Banned
Yes I get that but all those skins you listed are still battle uniforms ya know
i think symmetra can only thrive in comp because the attacking team won't generally be coordinated enough to immediately dive on to the point. Everyone is too used to the poke and pick behind rein shield gameplay, which is just fine by symmetra. once you get passed her nest, symmetra is a liability in a fair teamfight without shield gen up.
this was readily apparent the moment they announced the shield gen. Then we saw how much shielding it gave, and we all threw our heads back and laughed.
this was readily apparent the moment they announced the shield gen. Then we saw how much shielding it gave, and we all threw our heads back and laughed.
LucidMomentum
Member
I got hooked while jumping behind the car on the right of Numbani's second point, and the hook pulled me over the top of the car to Roadhog.
I've seen things fam.
Human Trashcan
Banned
It's random, or super frame-precise. Sometimes when I'm Mei I can iceblock before he shoots me, sometimes I get instagibbed despite spamming Shift.
Symmetra's range needs to be reverted.
Symmetra's shield barrier needs its health cut in half or put on a timer and possibly have its range reduced
Photon barrier having more HP than Winston's shield is fucking stupid
The first 2 more than anything. The barrier thing is whatever, but the first 2 are the main things.
It's likely Roadhog knowing to hold down left lcick while hooking vs Roadhog not knowing to hold down left click
Symmetra's shield barrier needs its health cut in half or put on a timer and possibly have its range reduced
Photon barrier having more HP than Winston's shield is fucking stupid
The first 2 more than anything. The barrier thing is whatever, but the first 2 are the main things.
It's likely Roadhog knowing to hold down left lcick while hooking vs Roadhog not knowing to hold down left click
Human Trashcan
Banned
You can do that? shows what a noob I am
Don Draper's Hat
Member
The one thing I'd change about Sym is her Shield Generator.
Attack on King's Row earlier. I stick one behind the wall. We capture the point. I immediately get the generator back so I can put it down again. I leave it near the tunnel. That allows us to reach the next checkpoint with shields. Upon doing so I immediately get my generator again so I can once again put it down to help make that final push. Which we do, with ease.
That's not right.
Once I put it down that should be that. Perhaps once a point is captured or lost we could have the option to remove the generator and rebuild the ult.
Attack on King's Row earlier. I stick one behind the wall. We capture the point. I immediately get the generator back so I can put it down again. I leave it near the tunnel. That allows us to reach the next checkpoint with shields. Upon doing so I immediately get my generator again so I can once again put it down to help make that final push. Which we do, with ease.
That's not right.
Once I put it down that should be that. Perhaps once a point is captured or lost we could have the option to remove the generator and rebuild the ult.
Psychoward
Banned
kinda wanna play snowball offensive for the sprays
kinda don't wanna play a garbage game mode
kinda don't wanna play a garbage game mode
There's one for completing without losing a round and I did that and the spray didn't unlock. People also leave and the match suddenly ended. Stopped playing it.
Red Arremer
Member
Zarya's weightlifter skins are more fitting for battle than many other skins, including even default outfits.
Wait, holding down left click?
Someone explain what the roadhog hook combo should be. I feel like I'm pretty good at getting hooks and not always so great in the followup.
If you hook someone and you hold down left click when they're hooked, you will always take priority over the enemy. You will always shoot before they can react. The melee combo is following the shot immediately with a melee hit
Hook, shoot, melee.
If they are close you can shoot, then hook, shoot again and melee.
so make her unplayabe again?
Psychoward
Banned
just killed reaper as winston and he said "Don't mess with my glasses"
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