Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
She`s a healer first and foremost.
Don't underestimate her damage output though. She can still pack a punch.
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She`s a healer first and foremost.
Don't underestimate her damage output though. She can still pack a punch.
cr_blah_blah
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How can Mei's turn into ice move be a complete counter to every single attack and ult in the game? That seems kind of ridiculous.
Zarya's shield and Reaper's wraith form are the same thing though.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
How is it a counter? She just doesn't get damaged from them. It's like saying reaper's wraith is a counter to everything.
moerser
Member
zaryas shield only to an extent. it lasts 2 seconds or a bit of damage. iceblock an wraith form completely negate every ultimate because of their duration.
LurkerPrime
Member
Junkrat laughs at the notion.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also ice wall is the bigger "fuck you ults" than ice block anyway.
MarioHead3
Banned
But if you fuck it up, you can get your whole team wiped.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Well, you just need to get good at it.
Though honestly, if your team got wiped from it most of the time it's because the ult would have wiped you anyway. It's more of a "you failed to save your team" and less of a "you caused your team to wipe".
MarioHead3
Banned
Well, you just need to get good at it.
Though honestly, if your team got wiped from it most of the time it's because the ult would have wiped you anyway. It's more of a "you failed to save your team" and less of a "you caused your team to wipe".
You could trap your team somewhere they wouldn't have been trapped.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Mmmm, I actually can't think of many scenarios where that would happen though honestly. Or at least I've never ran into it.
But still, you know.
With great power comes great responsibility.
But still, you know.
With great power comes great responsibility.
BumperLips
Member
Where's that gif of ice wall on D.Va's ult that lifts it up and kills everyone when you need it.
xaosslug
Member
ran Zarya for the first time in a ranked match on Kings Row attack and defence, and won. T__T
two tips for playing Zarya no one ever tells you:
1. back that thang uppppp! When you advance and bait fire, pop your shield and then back up (jumping) while firing your particle beam. If anyone advances on you they will likely die before they can kill you!
2. jump, jump, jump to help compensate for KWEEN Zarya's complete lack of mobility.
it is so hard playing Zarya, tho. I give mad props to peeps that main her, and do it well. You really have to be aware of your teammates, what's going on in the battle non-stop, and shield management is no joke! I was so anxious, I think I held my breath through most of it.
two tips for playing Zarya no one ever tells you:
1. back that thang uppppp! When you advance and bait fire, pop your shield and then back up (jumping) while firing your particle beam. If anyone advances on you they will likely die before they can kill you!
2. jump, jump, jump to help compensate for KWEEN Zarya's complete lack of mobility.
it is so hard playing Zarya, tho. I give mad props to peeps that main her, and do it well. You really have to be aware of your teammates, what's going on in the battle non-stop, and shield management is no joke! I was so anxious, I think I held my breath through most of it.
Yeah playing Zarya is a little like playing healer as well. In that you have to be aware of your teammate's health and when they're in danger.
Fallout Phoenix
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Lost a few comp matches tonight but I got play of the match twice so I'm pretty happy with myself overall.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Zen's golden balls are awesome.
They pulse.
They pulse.
The counter to her ice block is wait it out and kill her, or make sure you don't use your ult/abilities on her unless you know it's on cooldown
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean she's not the best healer, but if you feel comfortable playing mercy just play mercy man.
MastAndo
Member
Jumped right into season 2 immediately after hitting level 25 (picked it up for PS4 after the free weekend), and I really wasn't ready. Ended up in low gold tier, lost a few frustrating games, then said eff it and decided I just wasn't going to do competitive for long, so I would just not care and keep playing, win or lose. One nasty losing streak later and I dropped to around 1700.
...but the game has its hooks in me something fierce, so I played quick play exclusively for a while to get my game up, and am now climbing back. I'm almost at 2000 now playing solo queue, basically maining Zarya. I'm hardly good with her by most standards, but I feel like I've got her positioning and shield timings just about down and when everything clicks, I can control lots of matches with her at this SR.
I might be better with Zenyatta and like playing with him on some maps, but there's something really satisfying about playing with Zarya. I feel like I have more influence on the game's outcome. She also seems to work in every game type.
...but the game has its hooks in me something fierce, so I played quick play exclusively for a while to get my game up, and am now climbing back. I'm almost at 2000 now playing solo queue, basically maining Zarya. I'm hardly good with her by most standards, but I feel like I've got her positioning and shield timings just about down and when everything clicks, I can control lots of matches with her at this SR.
I might be better with Zenyatta and like playing with him on some maps, but there's something really satisfying about playing with Zarya. I feel like I have more influence on the game's outcome. She also seems to work in every game type.
Don't worry too much about it. At level 25 you really can't expect yourself to know all the intricacies of all the characters and maps. I'm level 300+ and I'm still learning things about the characters, even those that I main.
Besides, everyone feels that they belong to a higher SR tier, so you'll be fine just playing more and improving slowly.
MarioHead3
Banned
I feel like the game should never tell you that you have a perfect team comp, because you're going to have some sort of weakness no matter what you do. This includes stuff like the team's speed, range, damage, etc.
As it is, you just end up going with what the game says is perfect, yet you might have a character that's actually completely useless on that map or something.
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
I mainly hate when it says you don't have enough defense. Fuck that, if we have a Mei, a couple tanks, some heals and a dps...we're good in my eyes.
MarioHead3
Banned
no but stall tho
LurkerPrime
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Joining an all-Genji team.... *grumble*
I guess there's worse ways to waste five minutes.
I guess there's worse ways to waste five minutes.
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
Think it's better to go multiple defense instead? I'm seriously askin your opinion, cuz I know you're quite knowledgeable on this game.
MarioHead3
Banned
Well, I was mostly joking, and you're probably better off asking someone like Whippy about meta stuff, but I'll try.
Multiple defense probably can work just fine, but it's usually better to just go with multiple DPS, since kills are kinda your primary goal, and the defense class is generally worse at getting kills.
And I'm sure someone will correct me immediately.
They literally just made that change. I don't think they see any reason to look too much into it right now.
Nah, you are correct. There are situational defense heroes who can do really well on maps but getting kills is always a priority.
My new favorite thing to say over chat when I see 2 defense characters and no attack classes is, "I bet you guys we lose the first CP when they get ults." I haven't been wrong yet.
I was in a koth match with all randoms where there was not one, but two widows on my team. We lost, of course.
Next match, attack on route 66, the same two idiots go widow again. I decided I had enough, so I pick widow too and keep flashing her to suggest everyone do the same. Not unsurprisingly every one else is fed up too, so we end up with 3 widows and 3 mercies. The original widow (level 400+ no less), gives up and quits even before the game begins. The entire team then switches to a comp which isn't stupid as fuck and we win the game.
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
Yeah, I never have much luck when our team has multiple defense. Wanted to make sure I'm not tellin people some wrong shit.
My thinking was...if we kill them, they can't cap the point. It's been pretty effective lately.
My thinking was...if we kill them, they can't cap the point. It's been pretty effective lately.
MarioHead3
Banned
LurkerPrime
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Every shot I land with Ana is an accident.
I'm sorry.
Nice.
Gimmick comps can be fun, but it's really a time and place thing. It just kinda sucks being dropped into one.
I'm sorry.
Nice.
Gimmick comps can be fun, but it's really a time and place thing. It just kinda sucks being dropped into one.
MarioHead3
Banned
I prefer full bullshit comps rather than just one or two people that can't bother to take the game seriously at all.
Sometimes, I actually want to win, but I didn't get the memo that we weren't trying this round, so I start tilting myself over nothing.
Had a KOTH match last night. One of our players leave after first loss. Second match one of their player leaves but we still lose. I see that as a tank I'm having medals on eliminations, so switch to Tracer to do better. Other Tank switches to Kenyatta, and we end up winning two matches to 2-2. Then the last match one of our players rejoins! Zen switches back to reaper, joining person goes Hanzo, and we lose.
Hello darkness my old friend...
Hello darkness my old friend...
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
Gotta love those KotH Hanzos.
Earthpainting
Member
Finally jumped back in after a break. The Halloween stuff seems pretty cute, but the spooky-scariest part was getting confronted with how out of practice I was. I also noticed Hanzos are surprisingly rare, while two Widowmakers and two Anas per match were pretty much guaranteed. This is pretty much the polar opposite of how things were before I took my break. While I'm sure people have their reasons for these picks, it made for kind of barren battlefields. I usually play as symbiotic characters that naturally pair up with others, so the large amount of snipers made my team-up options noticeably limited.
Newtype-001
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So many widowmakers now :/
I play more Ana aswell but ive gotten all round better with her i think. My last match with her i had 65% and 76% acc.
Held last point on Volskaya for about 7min with her.
I play more Ana aswell but ive gotten all round better with her i think. My last match with her i had 65% and 76% acc.
Held last point on Volskaya for about 7min with her.
She received a buff to her ADS time in the most recent patch. She can fuck everyone up if the widow is good enough.
I am assuming it is the Hanzo effect from last PTR update. Word spread he got a buff and everone and their mom was playing Hanzo so they can be at their best when it went live.
Funny thing is this PTR update may never see the light of day. A lot of people don't bother to read the dev announcements so it is leading to a lot of misinformation.
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