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[Windom Earle]

The miiverse spam with "PrayForParis" is quite cynical. It doesn't help anybody and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad. Disrespectful.

 

[superseohyun]

Well apparently, according to the minister of justice, the syrian passport found is a flase:
https://twitter.com/nicolaschapuis/status/665969004016738304?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Let's hoep it's true and will calm down the immigiration talks a bit.

You can get fake syrian passport cheap in turkey. Some refugees bought them to pretend they are from syria.

 

[ElTorro]

I don't want to quote the photo for that Sikk again, but in case you need it for other places here is the proof that it was a photoshop: https://twitter.com/AmyStephen/status/665957251585343488

Also notice that he is a feminist and vocal opponent of GamerGate. So I can deduce quite easily who is likely behind this disgusting hoax.

 

[KHarvey16]

The miiverse spam with "PrayForParis" is quite cynical. It doesn't help anybody and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad. Disrespectful.

huh

 

[Windom Earle]

huh

I dunno, I think it's too much of a serious and tragic topic to drag it into miiverse.

Also "PrayForParis" is cynical in itself. Fuck religion, praying won't help.

 

[Downhome]

Why do people keep on throwing in the other nationalities of the terrorists when it comes to the one that passed through Greece as a political refugee? No one is claiming that all the terrorists rode the Trojan horse into France

This is all over my FB wall...

 

[antonz]

I dunno, I think it's too much of a serious and tragic topic to drag it into miiverse.

Also "PrayForParis" is cynical in itself. Fuck religion, praying won't help.

Shining pretty lights on buildings does nothing for Paris either

 

[superseohyun]

I don't want to quote the photo for that Sikk again, but in case you need it for other places here is the proof that it was a photoshop: https://twitter.com/AmyStephen/status/665957251585343488

Also notice that he is a feminist and vocal opponent of GamerGate. So I can deduce quite easily who is likely behind this disgusting hoax.

disgusting.

 

[KHarvey16]

I dunno, I think it's too much of a serious and tragic topic to drag it into miiverse.

Also "PrayForParis" is cynical in itself. Fuck religion, praying won't help.

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[DarkKyo]

The miiverse spam with "PrayForParis" is quite cynical. It doesn't help anybody and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad. Disrespectful.

If people stopped what they normally do every time a tragedy in the world strikes, we'd be stuck in place forever. Can't someone say the same thing about you posting on this forum?
"You should be too sad to spend your leisure time online.. so disrespectful."

 

[Windom Earle]

Shining pretty lights on buildings does nothing for Paris either

True, but the hypocrisy level is a bit lower. But I am probably overreacting. Miiverse is mostly children anyway.

If people stopped what they normally do every time a tragedy in the world strikes, we'd be stuck in place forever. Can't someone say the same thing about you posting on this forum?
"You should be too sad to spend your leisure time online.. so disrespectful."

I don't pretend to understand the level of despair.

 

[Hex]

I dunno, I think it's too much of a serious and tragic topic to drag it into miiverse.

Also "PrayForParis" is cynical in itself. Fuck religion, praying won't help.

You do know that Pray can have nothing to do with religion right?
Buy a dictionary and stop being a jaded ass.
People can be supportive however the hell they want to be, what does it have to do with you?

True, but the hypocrisy level is a bit lower. But I am probably overreacting. Miiverse is mostly children anyway.

So just generalizing all Miiverse users there?

I don't pretend to understand the level of despair.

Obviously you do because it affected you enough to come into the thread and cast judgement

 

[Resident_UA]

If they can't be stopped by bombing alone then a ground invasion is the only viable strategy.

ISIS welcome the idea of battle with the forces of 'Rome' as part of their death wish belief that they will prevail and be one step closer to the second coming and ultimate victory.

The entire reasoning behind the terror attacks is to provoke a land war, where as the bombings albeit not entirely effective do sap their resources and manpower and leve them frustrated.

The arguments against a land war are that it's what the enemy want, but at the same time a land war would be a far more effectively strategy to turn the region into the meatgrinder necessary to chew through ISIS militarily in short order.



I think at this juncture it's increasingly hard to take the accuracy of reporting on who does what all that seriously given the partisan nature of the press for the most part. Personally I'd say it serves Putin's purpose more to bomb ISIS and get the western powers on his side, but it also serves US interests to say the opposite.

So what are you actually disagreeing with? You want land invasion? Potentially army draft in your country? That's fine. I strongly oppose this approach. In fact I don't even know who to invade. Syria, Iraq, and Nigeria at the same time? I mean technically Iraq is already "invaded". Anyway it's a separate topic that we will not agree on.

About Russia not bombing Iraq. Even pro-Russian posters here acknowledge that Russia is more concerned with protecting Assad and there's very little ISIS close to Assad's interests. Sure, this could be blown out of proportion by the US, but Russia isn't even hiding that it isn't really fighting ISIS. When the terrorists (most likely) blew up Russian civilian Airliner Russia kept denying that version. It still isn't #1 version in Russian media.

 

[Windom Earle]

You do know that Pray can have nothing to do with religion right?
Buy a dictionary and stop being a jaded ass.
People can be supportive however the hell they want to be, what does it have to do with you?



Obviously you do because it affected you enough to come into the thread and cast judgement

Ugh, you're a lost cause.

 

[Fusebox]

You do know that Pray can have nothing to do with religion right?
Buy a dictionary and stop being a jaded ass.

I didn't know this, I thought prayer was a fairly specific term.

verb (used with object)
1.
to offer devout petition, praise, thanks, etc., to (God or an object of worship).
2.
to offer (a prayer).
3.
to bring, put, etc., by praying:
to pray a soul into heaven.
4.
to make earnest petition to (a person).
5.
to make petition or entreaty for; crave:
She prayed his forgiveness.
6.
to offer devout petition, praise, thanks, etc., to God or to an object of worship.
7.
to enter into spiritual communion with God or an object of worship through prayer.

Do you think people are earnestly petitioning France?

 

[PopeReal]

The miiverse spam with "PrayForParis" is quite cynical. It doesn't help anybody and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad. Disrespectful.

Lol what.

Hey everyone stop playing games! And watching football! And anything else that is fun!

Sorry but your post makes no sense.

 

[KHarvey16]

I don't pretend to understand the level of despair.

It's weird you say that because....

...and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad.

 

[DarkKyo]

I don't pretend to understand the level of despair.

I don't think people who are keeping the victims in their thoughts are pretending to know anything. What are you even talking about? Even if someone doesn't understand first hand what it's like to be a victim in a scene like that you can still empathize with the victims and their country because you're a fellow human.

 

[Hex]

I didn't know this, I thought prayer was a fairly specific term.



Do you think people are earnestly petitioning France?

People can make a petition, a wish a thought to whatever makes them feel better.
A god, a goddess, the universe, a tree, their great great great aunt Kathy who died last year. Simplifying it as religion because you do not like religion is selfish and just shows how quick people can be to make things about themselves.

 

[Resident_UA]

The miiverse spam with "PrayForParis" is quite cynical. It doesn't help anybody and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad. Disrespectful.

If it makes you feel better I think I understand your concern. If there's no one in your social media circle who would appreciate you solidarity with France (i.e. friends in Paris, ect) these posts are really pointless.

 

[Kraftwerk]

The miiverse spam with "PrayForParis" is quite cynical. It doesn't help anybody and if you have time to play video games, maybe you are not that sad. Disrespectful.

just stop.

same with all the people saying how changing your flag is bad and other shit.

NOBODY CARES if you don't like it. People have different ways of showing support.

What the hell do you want them to do? Put on uniform and go fight ISIS? Donate all their money? what? You want them to stop everything doing in their life and think about Paris 24/7?

Jesus Christ.

The survivors of the massacre themselves have posted on Facebook saying how much it means to see others showing support and solidarity..so please...just stop.

 

[nekkid]

I dunno, I think it's too much of a serious and tragic topic to drag it into miiverse.

Also "PrayForParis" is cynical in itself. Fuck religion, praying won't help.

This is not the time or the place. In fact I'm not convinced there's ever a time or place. What is wrong with you?

 

[TheRealTalker]

is this confirmed? There was a syrian passport found but i did not read confirmations that the passport belongs to one of the terrorists. Also lets not forget that one of the identified terrorist was a french national and one other from montenegro

passport could be fake

However, a U.S. intelligence official told CBS News the Syrian passport might be fake. The official said the passport did not contain the correct numbers for a legitimate Syrian passport and the picture did not match the name.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-attacks-teams-extremists-france-prosecutor/

 

[superdeluxe]

You would be surprised how many STILL want to make this about refugees and immigration

you can criticise how the immigration checks are going and still not blame the real/peaceful refugees

 

[Windom Earle]

If you people can't see the hypocrisy in spamming a cynical message on a video game platform, I don't know what to say. It's good to pretend though, carry on.

 

[ratcliffja]

Just curious: exactly how many terrorist attacks have ever been thwarted or minimized with civilians possessing guns?

 

[Fusebox]

People can make a petition, a wish a thought to whatever makes them feel better.
A god, a goddess, the universe, a tree, their great great great aunt Kathy who died last year. Simplifying it as religion because you do not like religion is selfish and just shows how quick people can be to make things about themselves.

Obviously not the right spot for this discussion but I don't agree with this. Prayer has a very specific meaning, people don't pray to trees or dead aunties.

 

[KHarvey16]

If you people can't see the hypocrisy in spamming a cynical message on a video game platform, I don't know what to say. It's good to pretend though, carry on.

It isn't cynical you sociopath.

 

[Kraftwerk]

If you people can't see the hypocrisy in spamming a cynical message on a video game platform, I don't know what to say. It's good to pretend though, carry on.

shut up already

 

[PopeReal]

If you people can't see the hypocrisy in spamming a cynical message on a video game platform, I don't know what to say. It's good to pretend though, carry on.

Lol. Don't fall off that high horse.

 

[superdeluxe]

Well apparently, according to the minister of justice, the syrian passport found is a flase:
https://twitter.com/nicolaschapuis/status/665969004016738304?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Let's hoep it's true and will calm down the immigiration talks a bit.

The passport being false or not is the problem, it being used to get through Greece as a refugee is.

 

[Resident_UA]

passport could be fake


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-attacks-teams-extremists-france-prosecutor/

That doesn't matter. CNN already put headline "ONE OF THE TERRORISTS WAS SYRIAN REFUGEE" so 90% of people are now convinced that all refugees are terrorists... As I said before this tragedy just became a tool in politician's hands...

 

[Hex]

Obviously not the right spot for this discussion but I don't agree with this. Prayer has a very specific meaning, people don't pray to trees or dead aunties.

Obviously you do not know many pagans mate.
But yes, not here.

 

[Fusebox]

Obviously you do not know many pagans mate.
But yes, not here.

You mean people who follow pagan religions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism

 

[Mikeside]

I dunno, I think it's too much of a serious and tragic topic to drag it into miiverse.

Also "PrayForParis" is cynical in itself. Fuck religion, praying won't help.

Criticising people for how they're reaching out helps even less than the things you're complaining about.


And being a dick about religion at a time like this is extremely unhelpful too. If somebody chooses to believe something that isn't hurting anybody else, let them believe it.

 

[DarkKyo]

Obviously not the right spot for this discussion but I don't agree with this. Prayer has a very specific meaning, people don't pray to trees or dead aunties.

I'm as non-religious as they come but even I understand "pray" is more or less a term to denote "may the universe grant you peace". It doesn't have to have a religious connotation because it's more of a common gesture of care. It's like why I still say "bless you" when someone sneezes. I'm not literally blessing them because I think their soul is being discharged from their body when they sneeze, I'm just doing it because it's a cultural gesture of care.

 

[TheRealTalker]

That doesn't matter. CNN already put headline "ONE OF THE TERRORISTS WAS SYRIAN REFUGEE" so 90% of people are now convinced that all refugees are terrorists... As I said before this tragedy just became a tool in politician's hands...

which is really sad since the French Justice Minsiter confirmed later that it was fake, stating that

It was a false passport "They are doing politics"

by they she means ISIS but some politicians will try and run with it basically helping out ISIS

 

[Fusebox]

I'm as non-religious as they come but even I understand "pray" is more or less a term to denote "may the universe grant you peace". It doesn't have to have a religious connotation because it's more of a common gesture of care. It's like why I still say "bless you" when someone sneezes. I'm not literally blessing them because I think their soul is being discharged from their body when they sneeze, I'm just doing it because it's a cultural gesture of care.

I'm non-religious too but I don't tell people I'm praying for them or tell them I'm sending them my prayers, that just feels disingenuous to me.

 

[Tesseract]

are european muslim leaders coming out against this? massive reforms must happen, the radicals gotta go

this shit has metastasized

 

[DarkKyo]

I'm non-religious too but I don't tell people I'm praying for them or tell them I'm sending them my prayers, that just feels disingenuous to me.

I think I communicated that wrong. I never tell people I'm praying for them or even that my prayers are with them, I'm just trying to say that it's more of a thing you(figurative you) just say to make others feel at peace, or feel like people care.

 

[Hex]

You mean people who follow pagan religions?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism

Really trying to work that whole "have the last word" thing when I am trying not to hijack this thread.
The pagan reference was a joke.
You can feel free to respond again so that you have the last word because I won't reply in this thread again on the topic.

 

[Kinyou]

are european muslim leaders coming out against this? massive reforms must happen, the radicals gotta go

this shit has metastasized

I think a whole bunch of organisations condemned it pretty much immediately. The radicals wont care though.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

About the fake passport: Its probably fake. The point is though, that the refugees going to Germany, not all of them are Syrian. There are those that get fake syrian passports to pass to the EU as a refugee.

 

[chadskin]

AFP: #BREAKING French air force pounds IS stronghold in Syria, defence ministry says

https://twitter.com/afp/status/665993148083142656

French strikes on Raqqa involved 10 fighter jets dropping 20 bombs, French defense ministry

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Paris_attacks_2

 

[Hex]

About the fake passport: Its probably fake. The point is though, that the refugees going to Germany, not all of them are Syrian. There are those that get fake syrian passports to pass to the EU as a refugee.

Yeah I know there was some buzz about former soldiers and whatnot mixed in.

 

[coleco]

which is really sad since the French Justice Minsiter confirmed later that it was fake, stating that


by they she means ISIS but some politicians will try and run with it basically helping out ISIS

The passport is fake but doesn't change anything when the terrorist made his way into the EU among real refugees claiming he was a refugee too. It's the same situation: there needs to be a better control on the refugees that are allowed in otherwise this situation will repeat itself again and again.

 

[Kenshin001]

Officials said one was a young Frenchman known to the authorities. In addition, a Syrian passport found near the body of another attacker was linked to a man who entered the European Union through a Greek island last month.

I got shouted down when I wondered if he was a "refugee" earlier. This is going to be a problem. The vast majority are going to be legitimate refugees but all it takes is one or two radical Islamic terrorists to blow people up. Especially as security will be tight against homegrown Islamic extremists it makes sense to bring someone in from Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan.

 

[StayDead]

https://twitter.com/afp/status/665993148083142656

This entire situation is awful, but responding with violence is exactly what they want people to do.

 

[Pikma]

https://twitter.com/afp/status/665993148083142656

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Paris_attacks_2

Good.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

are european muslim leaders coming out against this? massive reforms must happen, the radicals gotta go

this shit has metastasized

They did already. Maybe that's not enough, right? Maybe their high school teachers should come out against this too, as well as that one clothing store where they went once to buy some shoes one time? Right? /s