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Paris Terrorist Attacks, 120+ dead. Do not post hearsay/unsourced/old news.

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brau

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Physical injuries. One can only imagine the mental stress and destruction that witnessing, or in any way being connected to those directly affected by this tragedy are suffering through.

Right. The ramifications of this are way bigger than the numbers. Truly a sad day. Best to all of the people affected.
 
whats this im hearing about 35 dead at an eagles of death metal concert?

Jesus christ. has there ever been that big a tally at a concert? good lord. besides the obviously terrible tragedy of the victims I cant even begin to imagine how the band feels

More like 100+ so far according to current reports:<
 

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
CNN: No formal claim of responsibility yet

This is incredible to me. Usually with these kinds of attacks a group is very quick to claim responsibility. It's even more terrifying that nobody has any confirmation on who did this.
 
He wears his religion on his sleeve less than just about any of the other Muslims I know. He just randomly pops out with all this scary shit that people are trying to convince him of sometimes.

Sounds like a person who can be easily brainwashed by a radicalist if he is so easily thinking conspiracy theories, keep a watch on him, these kinds are ripe for turning
 

KAP151

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Busy Friday night has turned into a massacre. So sad at the complete randomness and ruthlessness.

So many killed and another 140+ injured some of them life threatening.

Edit: ISIS has claimed responsibility. All over Australian TV now.
 
It's sad. But the saddest thing is, probably a few hundred more of these 'people' already settled down in many European countries, and hundreds will be coming over the next months/years.
 

Koren

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It wasn't inside, and usually suicide bombings have very low casualties (1 to 3), certainly not always. It are hostage situations that are much worse.
I know, but in this case, one hour later, there would have been thousands of people packed in the streets, I really think it could have been far worse there.

I'm still wondering why they blew themselves up near access doors when there was apparently very few people around.
 

King_Moc

Banned
Did your co-worker say that to anyone else other than just you? That is crazy and if he talks like that out in the open... well I do not see how it can end in any good way

In the car. We just all go "WTF!" and try to convince him otherwise. Problem is, he's not really interested in facts as he's obviously been told they're all lies.
 

timewyrm

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I am aware Assad is and has been a cruel dictator. That doesn't mean it made sense to try and get rid of him.

Hundreds of thousands have died in the Syrian civil war. If you think that's no worse or maybe even better than the previous situation then I'm not sure what to say.

It was bad then and it's bad now. If you've never had anybody in your family murdered then you're indeed a lucky individual. Some of us have had family murdered by Assad...
 

Paracelsus

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Its over 100 now. It sounds more like a mass execution than a hostage situation.

It sounds because it was. They were executing them one by one going by what survivors claimed, then when police and army tried to get in they went all the way with grenades. At least, explosions were heard right after newscasters let us know police was going in.
 

SPEEDxNASTY

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MSNBC had a "counter-terrorism official" who said that this attack had the "hallmarks of al-Qaeda". So who knows....

Still too early to draw conclusions but it definitely is a terrorist attack.
Some of them are still on the run, it's still not over yet.

So many dead innocent peoples for nothing.
My prayers go to the family and friends of the victims...

A lot of solidarity going on FB and Twitter to help people find relatives or a shelter for the night.
 

Scipio

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I know, but in this case, one hour later, there would have been thousands of people packed in the streets, I really think it could have been far worse there.

I'm still wondering why they blew themselves up near access doors when there was apparently very few people around.
Couldn't get in or were found out and panicked maybe?
 

The Llama

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This is incredible to me. Usually with these kinds of attacks a group is very quick to claim responsibility. It's even more terrifying that nobody has any confirmation on who did this.

Been thinking this as well. Bizarre in a way that no one claimed it yet.
 
In the car. We just all go "WTF!" and try to convince him otherwise. Problem is, he's not really interested in facts as he's obviously been told they're all lies.

Yeah... after this attack I do not suspect your co-worker will be talking so openly...
Well depends on the actions that will be taken in the next couple of days I guess.
 

Merino

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We just spoke to someone in Calais who says there was a fire tonight, believed to be an accident, not arson. #CalaisJungle

So it was unrelated after all :D
 
Horrific events. Be well French gaf.
Hope the imminent military retribution for these murders and whatever groups supported them is swift and harsh but fair.
 

Salsa

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fucking shit. sorry, I just got home. god damn. I thought the attacks were kinda all over, didnt know it was 100+ at that specific concert alone
 

Bossun

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I know, but in this case, one hour later, there would have been thousands of people packed in the streets, I really think it could have been far worse there.

I'm still wondering why they blew themselves up near access doors when there was apparently very few people around.

Yeah a specialist said that something probably went wrong because their goal seemed to be to kill as many people as possible and that it made no sense to explode outside the stadium when it was full inside.

And that it could have been way way worse.
 

SomTervo

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I said Assad was and is awful, but you must admit Syria was better off before than it is now. We can't keep poking the hornets nest until the country is perfect. So please don't put words in my mouth I didn't say or try to shame me into agreeing with you.

As for this philosophical question, I don't see the point in engaging with it, because it is so ridiculous.

That's true, but that was nothing to do with Assad himself and what he was doing to his own people. In my understanding, we're talking about two separate issues here. However, standing with Assad against ISIS is hugely important. And I never intended to shame you or put words in your mouth, but the phrase 'under his rule, Syria was a relatively safe, stable country' sounded a lot like you were ignoring when he chemical-bombed his own people. Feel free to re-inform me on this – it sounds like you know your stuff.

How is the question ridiculous? A hypothetical: it transpires that armed forces are crossing the border nearest to you to invade your country (this is not what's happening now obviously). What do you do? Cautious and careful thought, or active reaction?

That's my point - I feel like the whole ISIS situation is quickly escalating towards that. I might be totally wrong in this analysis - anyone feel free to correct me on it.

Maybe that foresight is something you should take into consideration when you propose the stuff you're proposing now. What happens if these guys were French citizens who had never step foot in Syria/Iraq? What happens if they were with some Yemen sect? Do you invade Yemen now?

Think logically and take the past into consideration.

I don't quite understand your point here. Could you rephrase? For one thing, ISIS are not a sovereign nation in the same sense as France or Yemen, so that comparison doesn't make much sense. Though of course they do have control over a lot of territory in several countries. As a caliphate.
 

Cybit

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Well, if it is ISIS - it is interesting to see if NATO invokes Article 5. ISIS declares the area it occupies to be a sovereign country. NATO could take them at face value and that would then invoke Article 5...which would mean a full scale war.

<hugs to anyone affected>, and godspeed on your recovery Paris.
 

Quotient

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Terrible, terrible news. My heart breaks for the sons and daughters who died.

I plan to avoid all news about this for a few days to a week. At which point we should have a better understand of how, when and why. Right now the media is in hyperbole mode and anything and everything is "accurate".
 

King_Moc

Banned
Sounds like a person who can be easily brainwashed by a radicalist if he is so easily thinking conspiracy theories, keep a watch on him

Oh, he's not gonna do anything. He's nothing like the violent type and he's literally just married and had a kid. He doesn't even seem to know much about ISIS, it's just a generic anti-west thing he's being fed. It just worries me to see that happening as it means it can happen anywhere.
 
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