No surprise there, she is an absolute imbecile.
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Paris Terrorist Attacks, 120+ dead. Do not post hearsay/unsourced/old news.
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No surprise there, she is an absolute imbecile.
Demoskinos
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The problem with ISIS is that it isn't just a group of people its an ideology. And it would be extremely extremely difficult to entirely destroy an ideology.
And the bees have drones that fire various explosives. I hope they get it.
Starfield
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War is justified in order to safe the lives of other people. Or what? Lets just kindly talk down on the people who continue to murder each and everyday. SOMEONE has to stop them because they wont do that for you.
You can't change these people. You gotta wipe them off the face of the earth.
Zabant
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Though I get your point, ISIS use civilians in the lands they control as a shield to prevent attacks.
Seriously?
This is the sort of pacifism that can correctly be characterized as "immoral".
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Friend was in the street of the shooting at a restaurant. Had to hide under the tables. A friend of hers was at the concert and got shot.
All that happening live, while I'm drinking beers at my favorite pub and there's nothing I can do about it. I feel so powerless and angry, I'm shaking.
All that happening live, while I'm drinking beers at my favorite pub and there's nothing I can do about it. I feel so powerless and angry, I'm shaking.
RPGCrazied
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So what do you suppose we do, just idle by and let them continue to do this? Who else other than ISIS could plan something like this?
Shmuppers
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Then what the hell are we supposed to do?
What are you going to tell the families of the loved ones that were just murdered like fucking dogs?
Netherscourge
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In the past, when people report that there may be many gunmen or multiple groups, it winds up being a single group of maybe 6 or 7 at most, with specific jobs like carrying out a suicide attack, or carrying along ammo for the gun-users so they can move from place to place.
I would not be surprised if this was another small-group attack of guys who moved quickly from location to location, to cause confusion and mislead the authorities.
I don't have a map of Paris to mark off the locations attacked, but if they are lined up in some way where they led to the theater, it would certainly confirm that.
Just curious if the locations were really spread out or lined up to where the terrorists could keep moving in mostly one direction and then make their last stand at the theater.
That's probably what the authorities are looking at to see if there are multiple groups involved and maybe still at large or if they got them all at the theater. (not including the suicide bombers at the stadium and wherever else.)
I would not be surprised if this was another small-group attack of guys who moved quickly from location to location, to cause confusion and mislead the authorities.
I don't have a map of Paris to mark off the locations attacked, but if they are lined up in some way where they led to the theater, it would certainly confirm that.
Just curious if the locations were really spread out or lined up to where the terrorists could keep moving in mostly one direction and then make their last stand at the theater.
That's probably what the authorities are looking at to see if there are multiple groups involved and maybe still at large or if they got them all at the theater. (not including the suicide bombers at the stadium and wherever else.)
valkillmore
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I struggle to reason a different rational other than eliminating them with force. They've demonstrated time and again that they can't be reasoned with any other way.
I don't like war, but if there ever was a justification it's when the world is faced with an existential threat that cannot be reasoned with by any other means.
YankeeDonB
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Pretty much spot on. I'd only add that imposing democracy on people who aren't familiar with it and haven't historically practiced it is a dodgy proposition, even without the interference of extremists.
SPEEDxNASTY
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Listening to the comment of people who managed to escape the Bataclan is heartbraking.
Fucking heartbraking.
Fucking heartbraking.
metalslimer
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War is certainly justified if there is an aggressor attacking you. Are you supposed to sit back and let them kill your people and do nothing? I'm not saying let the world send troops to battle Isis but saying war can never be justified is stupid
By this logic you wouldn't be justified destroying the Nazi regime even after finding out about concentration camps
Trojita
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How do you propose stopping ISIS?
Thankfully. Just read that 4 have died, hopefully this is true and that the other source I read from isn't.
https://instagram.com/p/-CduGpqq9D/?taken-by=zsuzsulla
This picture is giving me chills knowing that certain people who were having fun would end up getting killed just a small time later...
This picture is giving me chills knowing that certain people who were having fun would end up getting killed just a small time later...
Alligatorjandro
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How can you stop this
I really hope this was the case.
Men (and women) dying in active duty against attacks like this really hurts me particularly as much as an innocent.
There is no easy solution to the Middle East. Its basically in a state of Religious Civil War. Even if the West were to get out completely it would not suddenly make things better. In many ways it could get even worse where it becomes open warfare between The two sides instead of proxy wars
This is false. You can't destroy extremism. But you can destroy ISIS. ISIS is all about the Caliphate. It's not like the other terrorists who can scatter around if needed. Their whole existence is linked to that territory that they occupy in Syria and Iraq. Defeat that and take that away from them and they are done. Extremism will still be around, but let's not forget that ISIS is the worst kind of extremism that we faced, beyond the religious justification directly into the an army of serial killers.
Ok, so whats your plan then? War IS a necessary evil. We've been just sitting by long enough, things will not get better until something is done. I hope this is it.
if war is never justified how do you defend yourself? Nazi Germany would be alive and well if war is not justified in extreme cases.
We created ISIS (or more specifically, George Bush and Dick Cheney created them), WE must clean up the mess.
Elfforkusu
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And after genocide, what then?
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My thoughts are with all the victims, I still can't comprehend this...
Extremist groups are so scary. ISIS can rot in hell.
Extremist groups are so scary. ISIS can rot in hell.
You really screen capped it?
Good Lord people this isn't a witch hunt. He said something stupid out of emotion, get over it.
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We need to provide help to the local governments where they are active, which is first and foremost in Iraq, Syria, and Libya, but there's not much of a government in the later case since it was taken down, the one in Iraq is a bit of a mess since the Baath party was wiped out, and the West is desperately trying to take down Syria's government, so not much really.
Yes, the world should have had let Hitler have his way with killing of an entire people and enslaving all of Europe.
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How do you respond to someone or a group, or a population that will only accept total fealty to their religion and a barbaric version of Sharia Law? ...and those people will use violence/war as the ONLY means if you do not accept it?
They don't care about retaliation, they expect it.
It will drive more insane people to their cause.
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