Fudgepuppy
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Any update on who did this and why? Is it still Charlie hebdo?
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Paris Terrorist Attacks, 120+ dead. Do not post hearsay/unsourced/old news.
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That image is wrong on so many levels
They don't have any issue to drive people to their cause anyhow.
Gravy Boat
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I know this isn't the time to be selfish, but I was in Paris very recently with my daughter and this whole thing has hit me quite hard. Can't believe the scale of it.
Oh wow.. never thought about looking at so much people supporting a war, inocents die there for a few, guys, please think about it.
You all think ISIS was born just because? Other countries have been invading middle east for some time now, basically they are just responding for all that hate they have been accumulating, answering to that with war will only make the cycle go on and on.
I'm no expert, so I'm sorry if I can't offer an answer, but in my country we are taught that war is not an option. Attacking fear with fear just don't make peace as you think.
You all think ISIS was born just because? Other countries have been invading middle east for some time now, basically they are just responding for all that hate they have been accumulating, answering to that with war will only make the cycle go on and on.
I'm no expert, so I'm sorry if I can't offer an answer, but in my country we are taught that war is not an option. Attacking fear with fear just don't make peace as you think.
Was all over TV here before, said ISIS had taken responsibility.
ShadowKingpin
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Fucking heartbreaking.
Pancake Mix
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Right, I understand that and I'm sure lots of people in government and such would like that information, but the reality on the ground is unlikely to match that.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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isis is an actual semi-governmental entity with a leader that controls territory though. they aren't al-qaeda
Maninthemirror
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Terrorists and I think the game is over now. I hope this finally Spurs west to actually kill off Isis like they did al Qaeda in Afghanistan
My question is why are we waiting on a miracle for them to be not terrorists, no one else is doing it
Stay safe friend, keep us updated on your well being
Though I get your point, ISIS use civilians in the lands they control as a shield to prevent attacks.
This map is garbage.
It's probably because of Boko Haram. They call themselves ISIS's West Africa Province after all.
edit: the map's still bullshit, I'm just pointing out why they put it there.
strange why they arent saying anything. Maybe afraid of more backlash?
Captain Smoker
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Boko Haram is close to ISIS but had huge losses in the last few months.
likely one of the suicide bombers
MassiveNights
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More Here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ooting-attacks.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
This is nuts. I lived in Europe for the last 6 years and I can't believe this is happening in Paris. I fear it is only going to get worse now with the influx of refugees ):
Dude who do you think the refugees are running from?
LelouchViBritannia
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Source to this claim??
Boko Haram is not in control of Nigeria, or even close.
A suicide bombing tends to do that with you. (as in the bomber itself get torn to pieces)
They support what ISIS are doing like the twisted fucks they are and adopted the black flag, otherwise no
wolves follow the sheep
uhh al queda only existed in iraq after the US invasion and then they later became ISIS.
Tesseract
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and after we kill isis, you think it's game over?
Led_Zeppelin
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I can't believe what is happening. I was going to play a football match with friends when news started to break in and we didn't move from the TV in hours barely speaking.
Sorry but this is completely wrong. You can't be serious. You can only say this when you aren't in danger of death or are completely in control of the situation. It is in our nature to defend ourselves by any means necessary (even if it means kill our attackers) otherwise we would have been extinct a long time ago.
War can be justified, now the reasons we tell ourselves to go to war may not be valid or the best reasons but War is and can be justified otherwise no Nation on earth would have to fought a war for their independence at some point and just "talk" their independence from their colonist. Or There wouldn't have been social revolts against oppressive regimes, kings, aristocracy, whatever. There are reasons that are worth dying for and self defense is one of them. If we reached that point or not is another discussion but it is something people will have to start discussing because doing noting and be a punching bad is not a solution to anything.
Sorry but this is completely wrong. You can't be serious. You can only say this when you aren't in danger of death or are completely in control of the situation. It is in our nature to defend ourselves by any means necessary (even if it means kill our attackers) otherwise we would have been extinct a long time ago.
War can be justified, now the reasons we tell ourselves to go to war may not be valid or the best reasons but War is and can be justified otherwise no Nation on earth would have to fought a war for their independence at some point and just "talk" their independence from their colonist. Or There wouldn't have been social revolts against oppressive regimes, kings, aristocracy, whatever. There are reasons that are worth dying for and self defense is one of them. If we reached that point or not is another discussion but it is something people will have to start discussing because doing noting and be a punching bad is not a solution to anything.
wild wild rice
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I don't think much information regarding injury/deaths has followed the two (?) suicide bombers outside the stadium.
really hope this is true, my girl's bro is paris police
Of course they haven't. To do so would invite the entire West to come down on their heads like a tonne of bricks.
Not just drone or airstrikes, I'm talking boots on the ground
What makes you sure that those refugees are 100% refugees?
There is no way to track whos who.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I assume so, they mentioned it on France 24 that it was probably the terrorist
SubiyaCryolite
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ISIS is an idea, an ideology. Starting another half assed war in the middle east will just make it worse.
Libya, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Palestine, Afghanistan. If you really want to destroy entities like ISIS in these countries they need to be made safe, stable and prosperous. Destabilizing these countries and encouraging poorly thought out regime change is a terrible idea.
In a sea of war, poverty and despair groups like ISIS and Al Quadia will thrive. Especially when you throw religious fundamentalism into the mix
Libya, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Palestine, Afghanistan. If you really want to destroy entities like ISIS in these countries they need to be made safe, stable and prosperous. Destabilizing these countries and encouraging poorly thought out regime change is a terrible idea.
In a sea of war, poverty and despair groups like ISIS and Al Quadia will thrive. Especially when you throw religious fundamentalism into the mix
Shmuppers
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Sorry for getting all pissed at you dude.
I've got two friends in Paris, only heard from one. Lacking in sympathy for IS at the moment.
No, I'm just explaining why it's there. That map is bullshit.
No...
BaronLundi
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Finally managed to get home (I live quite close to where the attacks happened). I was at a birthday party with my wife. My mom was taking our 3-year-old to eat out not 10 minutes on foot from where the reports were coming from. Although at the time it happened they were supposed to be home and in bed, I couldn't get a hold of them. Managed to reach them only at midnigt. Harrowing.
This is all so surreal. On the way home I realized I have never seen my city so empty and lifeless. I still can't wrap my head around it although we all knew something like that was bound to happen. Friends and family seem to be safe but I can't help but think about all the families torn by such mindless violence.
I hope my fellow citizens will understand what it is exactly that the refugees are trying to escape. I hope everyone will not forget our values and motto. I'm not optimistic but I hope. Thanks for all the support - altthough I wish for thoughts more than prayers.
Will try to get some sleep now. Have to be in shape if I want to donate some blood tomorrow. Tomorrow will be hard.
Finally managed to get home (I live quite close to where the attacks happened). I was at a birthday party with my wife. My mom was taking our 3-year-old to eat out not 10 minutes on foot from where the reports were coming from. Although at the time it happened they were supposed to be home and in bed, I couldn't get a hold of them. Managed to reach them only at midnigt. Harrowing.
This is all so surreal. On the way home I realized I have never seen my city so empty and lifeless. I still can't wrap my head around it although we all knew something like that was bound to happen. Friends and family seem to be safe but I can't help but think about all the families torn by such mindless violence.
I hope my fellow citizens will understand what it is exactly that the refugees are trying to escape. I hope everyone will not forget our values and motto. I'm not optimistic but I hope. Thanks for all the support - altthough I wish for thoughts more than prayers.
Will try to get some sleep now. Have to be in shape if I want to donate some blood tomorrow. Tomorrow will be hard.
Maninthemirror
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Al Qaeda in Iraq died because they got hounded out by an even worse ideology in Isis. I meant al Qaeda in Afghanistan in previous post
you can't completely fault... or maybe, try and understand that there's going to be knee-jerk reactions, and very fearful responses to refugees. Despite the fact that majority are running from these problems there's bound to be some bad seeds within that bunch, and that fuels the fear mongering.
It's a mess of a fucking situation.
Sickboy007
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I know what you're getting at man, but Isis is literally "al Qaeda in Iraq".
eerik9000
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PdotMichael
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Fuck off.
Who do you think are hiding amongst the refugees.
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