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Perfect Dark Zero GameSpot review
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shpankey
not an idiot
did you even watch the video review dude? the graphics look great in that.
are they perfect? no... are there little flaws you can pick out? ok sure, but overall, the graphics really look wonderful. stop nitpicking out little things and blowing it out of proportion.
some of you in here are posting terrible looking blurry washed out pics (no doubt were hand picked to try to make it look worse) that have the brightness way up which washes the graphics out. but if you watch the video in this review, the graphics look really damn good (despite the ugly character designs)!
enough already.
are they perfect? no... are there little flaws you can pick out? ok sure, but overall, the graphics really look wonderful. stop nitpicking out little things and blowing it out of proportion.
some of you in here are posting terrible looking blurry washed out pics (no doubt were hand picked to try to make it look worse) that have the brightness way up which washes the graphics out. but if you watch the video in this review, the graphics look really damn good (despite the ugly character designs)!
enough already.
Check his history, he's trolled PD0 from day one.
It's threads like these - http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=48007 - that make it such a great day to be a Rare loving Xbot.
It's threads like these - http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=48007 - that make it such a great day to be a Rare loving Xbot.
Accuse me of trolling or not, I dont care. I already said I might buy this game if it turns out to have good gameplay. I would then dont care that much about graphics, but not caring doesnt mean they are great. Why is it either love or hate all aspects at once?westical said:
The models up close look bad, even gamespot admits this and if you deny there are more aspects of the graphics that look less far from perfect then you are all in denial.
And it is not the hardware, it is the production value. When I first saw the castle explode in RE4 or came out to the river in HL2 seeing that half broken boat floating in the wonderfully reflective water I was in awe. Some stuff in PDZ might look technically more advanced or more defined but it does not come close to those beauties.
And a major system seller title shouldnt have any bad aspects in graphics when the hardware obviously is capable of more and those problems only come from the game being rushed. And when I see those parallax mapped bumps in the landscape which obviously should be some lame excuse for snow covered mountains I dont care a bit about how technically advanced that effect is, because it is plain ugly.
dammitmattt
Banned
Based on my first hour, his review his way off.
One thing I can tell you for damn sure....split screen SUCKS.
One thing I can tell you for damn sure....split screen SUCKS.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
I just played co-op up until the part with the ziplines. I like it.
Hu why? split screen is excellent, much more fun than the single player to me at least. I still do not like the game though, it just lacks the atmosphere and (dare I say) story to keep me playing like Halo did, since I'm not really a FPS fan in the first place.mmlemay said:
dammitmattt
Banned
EDIT: By split screen I was referring to 3-4 player matches
The worst thing about Perfect Dark Zero is that no matter how you tweak the controls, the aiming and movement just feel OFF. I never felt comfortable controlling Joanna. In contrast, Call of Duty 2 immediately feels PERFECT with the default settings.
Here are the reasons why split screen sucks (and other complaints in general):
- Severely reduced detail and frame rate hit
- Poorly designed levels seem to be too wide open or too constricted and mazelike
- Levels are way too big for 3-4 players if you're not a fan of bots
- I still don't understand the reasoning for not having a jump button
- Joanna is so skinny that she is a very tough target to hit
- I'm not convinced that the Cover move will work in multiplayer (it is fun in single player, though)
- The overall physics are just off
Overall, I just did not have fun with Perfect Dark Zero tonight, which is even more disappointing considering how great of a time I had with Call of Duty 2 (which has an excellent split-screen mode at 60 fps, just like the rest of the game).
I'm going to give it more of a chance this week - the single player and co-op modes should be pretty good and I really want to put some time into the different mode on Live - but I can almost guarantee that it will not be replacing Halo 2 anytime soon. By the way, Halo 2 looks MUCH better on an HDTV in 720p. What was a jaggy mess before is now much smoother, with only slightly blurrier graphics in return.
I'm still trying to figure out what is a bigger disappointment at this point - Madden or PD0. I'm leaning towards Madden because I think PD0 will improve over time and will at least have a good single player mode. Madden is just a mess
The worst thing about Perfect Dark Zero is that no matter how you tweak the controls, the aiming and movement just feel OFF. I never felt comfortable controlling Joanna. In contrast, Call of Duty 2 immediately feels PERFECT with the default settings.
Here are the reasons why split screen sucks (and other complaints in general):
- Severely reduced detail and frame rate hit
- Poorly designed levels seem to be too wide open or too constricted and mazelike
- Levels are way too big for 3-4 players if you're not a fan of bots
- I still don't understand the reasoning for not having a jump button
- Joanna is so skinny that she is a very tough target to hit
- I'm not convinced that the Cover move will work in multiplayer (it is fun in single player, though)
- The overall physics are just off
Overall, I just did not have fun with Perfect Dark Zero tonight, which is even more disappointing considering how great of a time I had with Call of Duty 2 (which has an excellent split-screen mode at 60 fps, just like the rest of the game).
I'm going to give it more of a chance this week - the single player and co-op modes should be pretty good and I really want to put some time into the different mode on Live - but I can almost guarantee that it will not be replacing Halo 2 anytime soon. By the way, Halo 2 looks MUCH better on an HDTV in 720p. What was a jaggy mess before is now much smoother, with only slightly blurrier graphics in return.
I'm still trying to figure out what is a bigger disappointment at this point - Madden or PD0. I'm leaning towards Madden because I think PD0 will improve over time and will at least have a good single player mode. Madden is just a mess
shpankey
not an idiot
ya, that's been one thing I have really been worried about. it seemed like in all the video's, everyone was having difficulty in controlling the aiming, more specifically, the fine tuned aiming. that will be a HUGE turnoff for me, as I'm a stickler for a game having sublime, smooth and fluid, easy to use control. there are so many FPS's out there (especially on PS2) that bomb in this regard. I'm not saying I think PD0 will be THAT bad (like Timesplitters bad, or Rainbow Six on Xbox bad) but from what I could tell, it wasn't good either.mmlemay said:
Thanks for the heads up... that's one thing I've been specifically looking for user reviews about. I am so anal about smooth, easy control (like Halo or even better RtcW which has godly control).
Damn damn damn. This moves the game down to a rental at best for me.
Dreamcast was my first console, I was a PC (and before that MSX) gamer before that. So no Perfect Dark for me.Hajaz said:
shpankey: The default controls were quite good for me on my preview, and much much improved compared to the X05 version. I have no complaint about the whole gameplay/controls.
Sathsquatch
Member
That's what I was thinking.shpankey said:
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
shpankey said:
He's thinking of new material to try on us, this is a failed attempt. Give him time. He's think of something less witty.
shpankey
not an idiot
Could you give us a rundown on Madden 360 (in this thread if you don't want to do it here)? Pretty please!mmlemay said:I'm still trying to figure out what is a bigger disappointment at this point - Madden or PD0. I'm leaning towards Madden because I think PD0 will improve over time and will at least have a good single player mode. Madden is just a mess
I don't like what I see in videos of it; it looks very choppy, with a bad framerate and extremely poor animation transitions (something it appears to share with NBA Live, but even worse thant that). Then I read some previews that said it was smooth and gorgeous and played good. But now that you say this, I'm starting to believe my own initial impressions from the videos... which was not good at all.Anyhow, I would greatly appreciate it to get to read your impressions on it... I've been dying all night to hear SOMETHING about it from regular gamers (and not pro reviews who never have a clue on sports games).
Thanks bro!
krypt0nian
Banned
Heian-kyo said:
You really are full of shit aren't you?
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I'm shocked that Gamespot rated it higher than TeamXbox. Most of the scores have been 80 somethings right?
As others have said, the graphics definitely aren't a 9 by any stretch. Some of the levels look good but others are very plain. If you were to only take the best parts of the game into consideration a 9 might be about right but as a whole I think the graphics are somewhere around an 8. PGR3...now that's a 9.0 for graphics. Heck, that game is a 9.5. The tracks are beautiful and walking around the garages and looking at your cars will make your jaw hit the floor.
I played the game for an hour, maybe two, so far. The different guns are nice and being able to put your back against the wall and look around the corner is a nice feature (reminds me of Kill.Switch). Mmlemay's control comments are spot on. I still wasn't comfortable with them by the time I turned off the console last night. COD2's controls are definitely better. I usually have a difficult time adjusting to FPS controls on consoles because I'm not a fan of the whole dual analog thing (that's mainly why I tend to stay away from them) but COD2's controls are butter. I've never had an easier time controlling a FPS w/ dual analog controls.
I'd give it an 8.0 - 8.5 right now. If you already have a 360 you'll want to get this but I don't think people should go out and buy the console for this game. But you should for PGR3 and COD2 (provided you don't own the PC version).
As others have said, the graphics definitely aren't a 9 by any stretch. Some of the levels look good but others are very plain. If you were to only take the best parts of the game into consideration a 9 might be about right but as a whole I think the graphics are somewhere around an 8. PGR3...now that's a 9.0 for graphics. Heck, that game is a 9.5. The tracks are beautiful and walking around the garages and looking at your cars will make your jaw hit the floor.
I played the game for an hour, maybe two, so far. The different guns are nice and being able to put your back against the wall and look around the corner is a nice feature (reminds me of Kill.Switch). Mmlemay's control comments are spot on. I still wasn't comfortable with them by the time I turned off the console last night. COD2's controls are definitely better. I usually have a difficult time adjusting to FPS controls on consoles because I'm not a fan of the whole dual analog thing (that's mainly why I tend to stay away from them) but COD2's controls are butter. I've never had an easier time controlling a FPS w/ dual analog controls.
I'd give it an 8.0 - 8.5 right now. If you already have a 360 you'll want to get this but I don't think people should go out and buy the console for this game. But you should for PGR3 and COD2 (provided you don't own the PC version).
Doom_Bringer
Banned
Holy crap nice score :O
open_mouth_
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for those comparing this game's gamespot score to the original perfect dark on N64, you have to take into consideration that this is a launch game on a new platform which is being held to a higher standard than previous platforms whereas the original came later in the N64's life cycle. A 9 today is > than a 9.9 back in the day, imo, in terms of modern appeal.
open_mouth_ said:
But that's offset by launch title inflation, remember?
In all seriousness, an intriguing score to say the least. Will probably be a nice game for FPS fans (I'm not one) in the end judging from the impressions on this board and such. It's just so fun seeing these topics in action
My comment wasn't just directed at PDZ, but rather how I feel Western journalists rate first person shooters in general, with PDZ just being a continuation of such. No other genre gets by with such lauded praise despite continuing flaws and innovative stagnation. It takes less in this genre to impress a good chunk of the gaming media here, and almost every FPS review is rife with double standards and overt leniency, which present in any other genre would be cited as significant detriments.
Aside from PDZ, for a couple other recent examples, see Quake 4 and Call of Duty 2, both PC version reviews. I'm not a fan of this genre and I despise how it's treated in our press, and I'll voice my opinion about it any chance I get.
Aside from PDZ, for a couple other recent examples, see Quake 4 and Call of Duty 2, both PC version reviews. I'm not a fan of this genre and I despise how it's treated in our press, and I'll voice my opinion about it any chance I get.
krypt0nian
Banned
Jerkface said:
Get it while it's hot!
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