You must have bad memory if you think Zelda looks like an early ps3 game, sorry.
I don't want to derail just don't like dumb hyperbole.
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Persona 5 Review Thread
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You must have bad memory if you think Zelda looks like an early ps3 game, sorry.
I don't want to derail just don't like dumb hyperbole.
thiscoldblack
Unconfirmed Member
As expected, great scores all around. I had a blast with the Japanese version, although I'm a slow Japanese reader. The first 20 hours were turtle paced due to that. I think I will enjoy more the English subtitles.
I think that complaint is poorly written, because the actual critique is more that she wishes the social aspect and structure of the game better suited long play sessions, rather than more pick up and play pacing.
His Majesty
Banned
I heard he still lives with his mom. And puts pineapple on his pizza. No wonder.
ChasingComets
Member
Oh shit, I play destiny too. I'm suppose to slam the game now, right? Bad persona, bad!
this may come as a shock to you, but I used to play Destiny as well and I actually enjoyed playing other games such as P3 and P4
Maybe. I honestly can't tell anymore. There were others that were slightly less blatant as well. I doubt they'll be that last either.
I think it's absolutely fair to say a game might be better suited for a portable experience. Especially in Persona's case, you have a lot of people who loved Persona 4 Golden especially because its social sim aspects are well-suited to be played in short burst or while watching TV etc. If you think that not being able to do that is detrimental to the game experience, then why shouldn't you be allowed to criticize just that?
Yeah, sure, in the day and age of Metacritic it might be frustrating to have a more subjective opinion "taint" the metascore, but, well, fuck Metacritic. Reviews aren't supposed to follow a standard formula set by a dumb website.
You didn't read much of my post did you?
Best PS4 game so far. And we're talking about 2017, the best year in modern gaming.
SLAY QUEEN PERSONA
BlazingDarkness
Member
Holy shit, great scores 
This year we are insanely spoilt for good games, I have a backlog of games I need to buy, let alone play.
Can't wait for this.
This year we are insanely spoilt for good games, I have a backlog of games I need to buy, let alone play.
Can't wait for this.
People like that are easy ignores.
She also made her name by creating a gaming butts video series. Most asses in the P5 cutscenes are flatter than I would like. Coincidence? I don't think so!
I feel like I'm set for the next couple of years at least lolHoly shit, great scores
This year we are insanely spoilt for good games, I have a backlog of games I need to buy, let alone play.
Can't wait for this.
YuriLowell
Member
That's what I was thinking, or if it just straight up crashed the game.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Again, please do not call out and vilify reviewers who you don't agree with.
Also, if anyone wants to see the unweighted average right now, click here.
I'll try keeping it updated as we get closer to release.
Also, if anyone wants to see the unweighted average right now, click here.
I'll try keeping it updated as we get closer to release.
You edited that in as I posted it, sorry.
The point is still valid to anyone and not just you, though.
A discussion on Jim is entirely irrelevant.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
People really have the wrong idea if they think the review process is starting at 10 and then going, "oh it's not on a handheld, it's only a 9".
I appreciate greatly that Gravity Rush 2 is on PS4 since the expanded scope is marvelous for the game, but you can tell the series is sticking to its handheld routes from a game design and flow perspective - it's mission-based which tends to work better in chunks rather than long, intense sessions.
Considering a lot of people played Persona 3 and 4 on handhelds, including this reviewer, and thus have that as a point of reference, it's completely reasonable for people to have their own conclusions regarding how each format works best with the series's pacing. It's missing the forest for the trees to say it's simply "I wish this game was on different hardware" when the criticism is specifically regarding the game's pacing and flow, and how it gels with the expected playstyle it demands.
Trying to drag them because of alleged Nintendo bias though is just weak all-around. especially when this reviewer specifically mentions having played Persona 4 on Vita. Why does it matter?
I appreciate greatly that Gravity Rush 2 is on PS4 since the expanded scope is marvelous for the game, but you can tell the series is sticking to its handheld routes from a game design and flow perspective - it's mission-based which tends to work better in chunks rather than long, intense sessions.
Considering a lot of people played Persona 3 and 4 on handhelds, including this reviewer, and thus have that as a point of reference, it's completely reasonable for people to have their own conclusions regarding how each format works best with the series's pacing. It's missing the forest for the trees to say it's simply "I wish this game was on different hardware" when the criticism is specifically regarding the game's pacing and flow, and how it gels with the expected playstyle it demands.
Trying to drag them because of alleged Nintendo bias though is just weak all-around. especially when this reviewer specifically mentions having played Persona 4 on Vita. Why does it matter?
SaiyanRaoh
Member
THIS!
Omg, this is one of the best years in gaming I've ever experienced. I'm overwhelmed in backlog and I love it. And The Xbox doesn't have an answer for any of it. I know a couple of stubborn Xbox only gamers what refers to the PS4 lineup as "weeaboo shit". I honestly point and laugh at them. I like the system as well but it's getting pretty close to being packed away for a bit.
Agreed but it's worth mentioning Jim didn't write the review. Someone else did and said person is known for their leaks/rumors regarding a brand new competing portable platform.
No probs.
Anyway, got no beef with their review, just nitpicks with specific points.
Game still clearly great.
Nikolasvanitas
Member
Again as a fan of FF XV the only reasons for making such comparisons is to identify flaws and provide feedback for improvement of the future titles, this is indeed a great period for fans of Jap games, however we shouldn't neglect to give feedback and analyze the trends that emerge.
Edge still not included in the MC Rating, they will hit hard but I guess the game will still stay comfortably above 93,49%.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
People should be free to provide criticism of whatever games they want, citing other games as examples if needed, in a constructive and civil manner. Circle jerk threads of never-ending positivity are just as bad as negative cynical echo chambers.
butman
Member
What a crazy year for games so far.
I can't wait to get into Persona 5. I didn't think it would be this high tbh, these kind of games seem to be for a more particular audience. But the more the better.
Hope 2018 don't be a wasteland.
Agreed. "It would be better on a portable device" is a terrible criticism.
All the more reason not to hide it, if Gaf can't handle review threads better with scores like that around we shouldn't have them.
Impulsor
Member
To be fair (and accurate), it is Laura's only MAJOR complaint. She does have a few other minor complaints throughout the review, if you read it.
It honestly feels like you just focused on the last three paragraphs of the review.
Grim-Reality
Neo Member
Can't wait for the game, glad to see it's reviewing so well. Now to try and finish up Horizon and Nier before April 4th.
Bruh, keep it clean, we're starting to tip into that shitty review hype cycle, and the reaction to the Digital Trends score was treated with maturity up until this point to.
Psst I'm a Destiny player to, come at me Bro???
Boy Wander
Member
I don't understand the issue with the review. It's tone is mostly very positive. It is punctuated with an excellent score if you are blessed with the ability to understand that 8.5 on a 10 point scale is actually really high. The reviewer played over 100 hours of the game and had a lot of fun. What am I missing?
She also was the voice of a bunch of PS4 Pro rumours too. And was vindicated for pretty mucb all of it, I believe?
Edit: or slim? Either way, both Sony and Ninty stuff
meltingparappa
Member
Yeah.I played and enjoyed Desinty
I am currently playing and loving Persona 5
The trend of breaking out the pitchforks and scouring a reviewer for potential blackmail over an incredibly subjective is a disturbing path to go down.
All for percentages of a percentage point on a review aggregate.
Simon-chan
Member
Called it.
(Be) steal my beating heart.
(Be) steal my beating heart.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
This comes out next week?
My poor backlog.
My poor backlog.
RedAssedApe
Banned
par the course. i mean it happened in the SPOILER FREE gaf thread a couple of days ago lol
Principate
Saint Titanfall
93 on Opencritic top 0.4% beast.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Once they're counted, the unweighted average will drop to 93.85 - assuming no other scores are added.
Gentleman Jack
Member
If it eases the pain, the TYH edition is not as nice as the 20th anniversary edition Japan got.
I mean she even says the following
"Honestly, I only have one major gripe with Persona 5, and its a gripe that Im not sure is unfair or not."
"Still, the fact thats my biggest complaint in 120 hours of JRPG says a lot."
Like, she clearly really liked it anyway and she admits it her self that it's probably unfair.
People are free to compare games of the same genre, especially if they're released in the same timeframe (if those comparisons make sense is another thing entirely). I know you worked on FFXV and it may come off as irritating to you but there's nothing you can change about this.
perfectsil
Member
Amazing reviews, can't wait
By the way: What about the 7 of digital trends? I don't see it on MC or in your list, is that site not counted by MC?