Support NeoGAF

[KAOS]

Not bad it reminded me of a Japanese Witcher/Assissin's Creed game. The gameplay looked a little stale, slow and boring but hopefully it picks up as you progress. The black and white option looked awesome! Overall I think it was a mistake showing this after the UE5 PS5 demo yesterday. The visuals although beautiful seem to not impress as much in fact I'm surprised it was a ps4pro footage. Still a day one purchase for me!

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Still watching it back at 4k, man imagine how good this looks and if it could get 4k/8k environmental texture pack on PS5

Can you sail in this game, or are the ships in the water just for show?

 

[Aion002]

Am i the only one who found the Japanese lip syncing completely off?

That's expected.

The game was probably not mocapped in Japanese.

 

[sublimit]

That's expected.

The game was probably not mocapped in Japanese.

 

[iorek21]

Damn, the music that plays when Jin headshots a guard while infiltrating the ship...

 

[jonnyp]

Everything looks and sounds amazing.... except the combat. I loved Second Son but not sold on the combat shown here

 

[yodine53]

Graphics and art direction are the best of the best, i wish they would have made a game more interesting than this.

 

[HE1NZ]

Looks fantastic. Finally some gameplay. Looks like better Assassin's Creed than Valhalla.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

could just be the stream did not look HD.

I felt as if everything I saw before this was in the Photo mode now that we have real time gameplay it was a downgrade.

If you don't see a downgrade you are an uber fanboy

What RES you streaming at ?

 

[Nankatsu]

That's expected.

The game was probably not mocapped in Japanese.

I think that's the case, but it's a little weird that they specifically said in the state of play that Japanese VA is the way to go. I honestly don't understand why a game like this, with the setting it has, was not mocapped in Japanese in the first place.

 

[Fuz]

Assassin's Creed: Annoying Camera Position Edition

 

[Fake]

 

[Bryank75]

The gameplay looked very samey to stuff we've been doing the last 15 years with a samurai coat of paint. First off, the movement of the main character is off, he has this boxy shoulder strut that isn't right in terms of animation. Then the transition to full run looks awful, like he's more explosive than an Olympic sprinter.

I'll use the Witcher 3 as an example for my next point. Those environments looked lived in. Ghost doesn't at all. It has this somewhat randomly generated look. Nothing seemed interesting beyond that first shot overlooking the land. Okay, that was cool, go to the smoke. But once we got down on the ground, it fell apart. Everything looked bland and randomly generated beyond the overdone grass and flowers blowing in the breeze effect. Horizon ZD had some of that randomly generated feel, but it was much better than this.

The combat seemed passable for mindless fun, but the AI looked almost PS2 Tenchu level stupid. It doesn't have to insanely smart to be fun, I get that, and I'm sure some of it was for demo purposes, but still. I know Ghost is a hero character and it's supposed to make nerds feel cool, but I can already tell this will be easy as hell once we figure out the AI. And that won't take long. Example. Why is the AI hyper-alert to a pebble being thrown 8 feet from him, yet a grown man can hurry behind him through gravel and dirt without being heard at all? Ninja!

There was just nothing that stood out to me at all. It looked extremely safe on all levels. It's like they felt they're making a samurai game and that's something different, so no need for anything else. Horse, bow, reflections, overdone foilage blowing in the breeze. Just an opinion.

I dunno.... anyway The Witcher 3 had shit combat and I played through it and the DLC's and Cyberpunk looks like a Deus Ex rip off... and I hate the aesthetic of the game and the driving looks trash but I'll still buy it and play it.

Also Japanese are very tidy people.... not like the filthy pigs that inhabit The Witchers world. Witcher wasn't lived in either....come to Ireland I'll show you 'lived in'! LOL

Sometimes you focus too much on the tiny details and you miss the entire package and how it makes you feel.... and GOT makes me feel like I'm a Kurosawa film! That is Awesome!

 

[Fuz]

Japanese VA is the way to go.

Seriously, this is true for ANY Japanese game.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

What RES you streaming at ?

switched from Safari browser that was at 1080p to Chrome because I did not like the quality my chrome was putting out 720p moved it to 1080p

not sure what happened to this dope ass game

 

[Danjin44]

I think that's the case, but it's a little weird that they specifically said in the state of play that Japanese VA is the way to go. I honestly don't understand why a game like this, with the setting it has, was not mocapped in Japanese in the first place.

Very true, they should known with setting like this most people want to play this game with Japanese dub.

Seriously, this is true for ANY Japanese game.

Nier Gestalt says hello.

 

[Oddspeak]

I think that's the case, but it's a little weird that they specifically said in the state of play that Japanese VA is the way to go. I honestly don't understand why a game like this, with the setting it has, was not mocapped in Japanese in the first place.

Honestly, you don't even need mocap for lip syncing anymore. There's AI that can sync lip movement to different languages for you. It was used in FF7R and works amazingly.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

switched from Safari browser that was at 1080p to Chrome because I did not like the quality my chrome was putting out 720p moved it to 1080p

not sure what happened to this dope ass game

Well watched it at 4k and it looked great.

 

[Fbh]

Looks great though I wasn't really blown away by any of it.
Seems like a fairly standard open world game so far, but in a cool setting. Collectables, crafting, enemy bases, standard stealth and all that.

The more direct combat looked better. I love the whole concept of taking down enemies quickly and it could be quite tense if it works both ways (as in you die quickly too).
I hope there is enough customization to make it worth playing through multiple times. The Infamous games were great in offering 2 unique paths that made them worth playing twice.

Ultimately I guess it will really come down to how good the story is and how enjoyable the world is to explore. If there's a lot of fun and unique things to do I'm all in, but after this this video I'm a bit worried you'll reach a new area and will be greeted with checklist design like:
"Mongol Bases taken 0/5
Shrines found 0/8
Upgrade materials found 0/12"

Which would be quite disappointing.


Also yeah it's nice they specifically mention japanese voice acting but it's a shame the mocap is for english. Playing as a japanese character in japan talking japanese but with the weird dub effect will be awkward.

 

[Strider Highwind]

They got my money, just inject that shit into my veins I aint goin nowhere

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Well watched it at 4k and it looked great.

I'll take your word for it, must be something wrong with my 1080p screen limit then

 

[Alter_Fridge]

It it just me or are the reeds/grass a bit too long?

 

[Shakka43]

Everything looks fine except for the impact the arrows have when hitting enemies, for how good and grounded the animations look on everything else, the enemies flying away from arrow shots seem a little out of place.

Anyway my anticipation for the game has grown now, Sucker Punch seems to have a real good one here.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

couple crappy screens I grabbed straight from YT video but I just dig the colors

 

[DeepEnigma]

That's how I felt watching the stream.

 

[Aion002]

I think that's the case, but it's a little weird that they specifically said in the state of play that Japanese VA is the way to go. I honestly don't understand why a game like this, with the setting it has, was not mocapped in Japanese in the first place.

Maybe they believe that they can sync the dub in an acceptable manner, rather than delay the game.

After all, the PS5 is coming.

 

[Compsiox]

Am i the only one who found the Japanese lip syncing completely off?

No lip syncing for Japanese voice over.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

I'll take your word for it, must be something wrong with my 1080p screen limit then

If it defaulted to 720p and you forced to 1080p then you could end up lower bitrates.

 

[Dargor]

The graphics and animations look great, but thats to be expected, all sony's studios this gen have been on point on the front.

The combat I can't make any definitive comment, watching it made it feel clunky, but playing might be more fluid and skill oriented, so I'll wait to see someone actually playing it with a pad in hand or a demo so I can test it myself.

 

[HellforLeather]

So Im just starting to watch the video and the world doesnt look very detailed? It almost seems like they are going for a bit more stylized but with realistic character models and Im not sure that it works.

Combat looks, ok.

Stealth? I think Batman and AC is going to sue somebody.

So far this game dropped down from a day 1 purchase to a "buy on sale".

 

[Strider Highwind]

couple crappy screens I grabbed straight from YT video but I just dig the colors

Looks dope

Crazy shit is im a super huge fan of Samurai film from back in the day and Kung Fu Films...I plan on playing that joint in black and white for my first play through if its possible lol

 

[Arkam]

Now im wondering do i buy the ps4 version or the obviously ps5 version that will happen

That is the question!! But lets be real, no way I am waiting 3 months for this game.

 

[Bryank75]

If it defaulted to 720p and you forced to 1080p then you could end up lower bitrates.

Especially with ISP's limiting bandwidth at the moment!

 

[Smiles and Cries]

If it defaulted to 720p and you forced to 1080p then you could end up lower bitrates.

that could be the issue

 

[Bartski]

re-watched direct feed now. Love the combat and the overall dynamics of it. Every strike counts. It seems all parry based and some kind of block that contextually animated Jins reaction to attacks, so good. Notice enemy attack indicators in come cases, unblockables requiring a counter maybe? Still very curious to get a precise rundown of how it works, especially the hud stuff we see bottom left. Some animation blending issues still there, some weird looking reactions of enemies hit by the bow... hopefully this is the build from before the final polishing stretch happening now.
When Jin is in ghost mode hiding and finds a heavy, the square prompt on it says "Slaughter" rather than "AssassinatE"

What I absolutely hate is the lack of any item pickup animations, but I know I'm a minority (yes I did love that stuff in RDR2) and most of the players will appreciate it to be this way.

 

[Bryank75]

That is the question!! But lets be real, no way I am waiting 3 months for this game.

One playthrough on each system...one as samurai and one as ninja!

 

[BlitzerRadic]

I mean, did he deflect them through timing or just hold the block button.

Did you even watch the video? It tells you that you can parry enemies at the last minute to open them up.

 

[Jayjayhd34]

Especially with ISP's limiting bandwidth at the moment!

I've been lucky on that front getting pretty stable 76 meg and haven't had a disconnection in a few months.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Assuming there are difficulty settings, I will be played on hardest/hardcore mode (whatever is available) from the jump

 

[Investor9872]

Still watching it back at 4k, man imagine how good this looks and if it could get 4k/8k environmental texture pack on PS5

If that happens, it will be day-1 for me with the PS5. Let the BETA-tester be damned.

 

[Romulus]

I dunno.... anyway The Witcher 3 had shit combat and I played through it and the DLC's and Cyberpunk looks like a Deus Ex rip off... and I hate the aesthetic of the game and the driving looks trash but I'll still buy it and play it.

Also Japanese are very tidy people.... not like the filthy pigs that inhabit The Witchers world. Witcher wasn't lived in either....come to Ireland I'll show you 'lived in'! LOL

Sometimes you focus too much on the tiny details and you miss the entire package and how it makes you feel.... and GOT makes me feel like I'm a Kurosawa film! That is Awesome!

I didn't like Witcher 3's combat either and that's not what I meant with live in=city trash. An indie game could do that better I think if they focused on it.

 

[Hendrick's]

Looks incredible. I'm so happy they nailed the combat! A bit less enthusiastic on the stealth so I hope it's not a large part of the game.

Thought it was funny how they were touting no waypoints but instead we get magic wind, lol.

 

[Punished Miku]

It even says as a bullet point in the exploration section: explore abandoned buildings and gather rare resources.

So, probably no going in buildings in cities. Probably no interior castles.

 

[Barakov]

For 18 minutes and 40 seconds I was completely engrossed in it. It looks like Sucker Punch hit out of the park. I'm in there on day 1.

 

[JunkerWoland]

The main thing I came away with is the black & white mode seems neat. Otherwise, I'm sure the game will be of high quality, but what they put on display in the video doesn't excite me.

 

[sircaw]

I don't know why but stream was very blurry/murky looking when i watched it.
Takes away alot from the overall quality esp for a game like this.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I think the videos they uploaded were borked, or it's a big downgrade from the preview videos and images. The 1080p vids were kinda muddy.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Some of those armor sets look cool as fuck

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

While I've seen better things graphically and the gameplay didn't look like it was groundbreaking, the art style here is probably in my top 5 of all time. What a breathtakingly beautiful world they've crafted. They've really captured the dreamy Japanese fantasy forest landscape as well as that classic feudal feel you get from old Japanese popcorn classics like Rashamon and 7 samurai.

Rashomon (1950) : Akira Kurosawa : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

A priest, a woodcutter and another man are taking refuge from a rainstorm in the shell of a former gatehouse called Rashômon. The priest and the woodcutter...

archive.org

Hopefully they show combat inside of larger buildings and such. Also, mechanics like with the animals are a great touch. What would be nice is if there are tons of little interactable secrets hidden around the environment that tell a story. TW3 had lots and lots of world building through the environment but I just wish there was more that was interactable, that you could inspect and or manipulate in some way more than just looking at with the camera. Bonus if I can collect an object that then opens up NON story specific interactions with NPCs that then changes the world in certain ways.

Anyway, first game in a very long time that made me a bit sad I only have a PC. I'll have to hit up my friend to borrow his PS4 at some point if he gets this. Enjoy it brothers.

 

[Arkam]

Looks incredible. I'm so happy they nailed the combat! A bit less enthusiastic on the stealth so I hope it's not a large part of the game.

Thought it was funny how they were touting no waypoints but instead we get magic wind, lol.

I too am not a big fan of stealth games either and hoping that it is really an option for the player. Sneak around or just go balls to the wall and kick in the front door.