no reason to beat yourself up over it - personally, I always find it best to mess around with every character in training for at least a couple minutes and find out which one feels best.
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Pokkén Tournament |OT| King of Iron Tail Tournament
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no reason to beat yourself up over it - personally, I always find it best to mess around with every character in training for at least a couple minutes and find out which one feels best.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Glitchesarecool
Member
By the way, I want to give mad props to whoever came up with Garchomp's Dig animation. That shit is rad.
ShinySylvee
Member
Counter attack completely negates chip damage so you should try doing that when they try to lazer you. Most the super damaging ones have tons of startup so as long as they don't catch you during lag of a move you can just completely avoid it by countering.
PreyingShark
Member
finally got my level 100 Suicune, now to lab now that I have both beaten all 5 leagues and have my main at max level and can now just focus on gitting gud <3
EndlessSky
Member
Here's a machamp combo list for machamp posted on the reddit. Some of them are more viable than others. I use to only use down x, x, jump forward y, x, x; but now I see I can optimize it better.
Okay I'm loving the ever loving stuffing out of this game. Bought it on a whim and already I can see myself getting hooked for a long time to come. Have only used regular ass Pikachu and having a blast....
...Say I just beat the D League Tournament and
So now I wonder, how do I trigger this again? Did I mess up majorly? I was caught off guard by the power (and tactic) different compared to what had come before.
I love how even in defeat Pikachu has dignity, though. Had a pose that just screamed "you got lucky and you fucking know it"
...Say I just beat the D League Tournament and
there was this CGI cutscene with a black Mewtwo coming out of nowhere, dude likely had more than twice the HP my Pikachu had and twice as much strength I bet, the thing is that it was my first defeat...
I love how even in defeat Pikachu has dignity, though. Had a pose that just screamed "you got lucky and you fucking know it"
Neoleo2143
Member
It triggers at the end of each league.
Ah. So it was like a chance to unlock them early, and it'll just pop up exactly the same next time? That's...a bit of a relief.
Neoleo2143
Member
It's odd, but the relatively short combos and ridiculously high damage the game has reminds me of Super Turbo SF2 for some reason. It's quite nice to play a fighting game with such high damage but shorter combos after the Tekkens and the Marvels.
Getting a very good first impression from the game. I was checking out a few streams last night and a few of them seemed down on it, especially in regards to lag online. I had zero problems when I tested it out myself today, so that was nice to see. The matching is so fast it makes it easy to just keep going with one... more... game.
For some reason I decided to pick up Gardevoir and they're not bad. I kind of never know when I should be using calm mind (the green slow projectile seems worse than just shooting at them). I always forget to try and set up a psychic or future sight when they are knocked down too. I faced a few Garchomps who messed all of my air shenanigans up though. I jump for a petal attack and NOPE YOU GOT DIG DUGGED.
I need to start trying to work some of the tricks into my game or else I'm probably better off just choosing another fighter, lol.
For some reason I decided to pick up Gardevoir and they're not bad. I kind of never know when I should be using calm mind (the green slow projectile seems worse than just shooting at them). I always forget to try and set up a psychic or future sight when they are knocked down too. I faced a few Garchomps who messed all of my air shenanigans up though. I jump for a petal attack and NOPE YOU GOT DIG DUGGED.
I need to start trying to work some of the tricks into my game or else I'm probably better off just choosing another fighter, lol.
CoconutTank
Member
O_O roflmao XD
nj btw. I guess Shadow Mewtwo is similar to Akuma in that he's got crap HP but apparently very strong moves. You did him in with what looked like 1 super and 3ish well spaced attacks, and he kept spamming that psi-column attack on you.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yeah no clue how to deal with it atm
Finally moved on and tried out a couple of other characters:
Chandelure: Just.. What in the world. He debuffs himself and the enemy? He is the pinnacle of "I don't know what I'm doing." I.. I feel like he's strong but I'm just confused by his moveset and start up times.
Blaziken: Feels very good, he's very offensive in the air, great syngery mode form. Feels very mid grade character. I can see where Baziken can easily lose a fight because of his nonexistent defense.
Machamp: Extremely powerful but has no range and movement is janky. His grab is deadly. Problem being is that he's slow and must always take the offensive and at range shield for the life of him. He's a pokemon where defense and support pokemon are really important. I have to play with him more to get a gist of him.
Lucario: Defense felt very weak for me for some reason. But he has a nice combos and although he's more close range he has a large hitbox. He's not bad.
I'm still maining Suicune though. I really can't imagine playing any other character, Suicune has it all in my eyes. Range, speed, defense, combos, grab. I really don't understand why my friends thinks he's weird or weak.
Maybe the game is too easy right now? I passed the blue league earlier today and still haven't lost a match. I guess mid game is starting soon.
Chandelure: Just.. What in the world. He debuffs himself and the enemy? He is the pinnacle of "I don't know what I'm doing." I.. I feel like he's strong but I'm just confused by his moveset and start up times.
Blaziken: Feels very good, he's very offensive in the air, great syngery mode form. Feels very mid grade character. I can see where Baziken can easily lose a fight because of his nonexistent defense.
Machamp: Extremely powerful but has no range and movement is janky. His grab is deadly. Problem being is that he's slow and must always take the offensive and at range shield for the life of him. He's a pokemon where defense and support pokemon are really important. I have to play with him more to get a gist of him.
Lucario: Defense felt very weak for me for some reason. But he has a nice combos and although he's more close range he has a large hitbox. He's not bad.
I'm still maining Suicune though. I really can't imagine playing any other character, Suicune has it all in my eyes. Range, speed, defense, combos, grab. I really don't understand why my friends thinks he's weird or weak.
Maybe the game is too easy right now? I passed the blue league earlier today and still haven't lost a match. I guess mid game is starting soon.
SolicitorPirate
Member
Jesus, Weavile is no joke. Fought a dude who'd take me down to half health in a single duel phase combo.
Managed to get a really close win since he started to get predictable as the match wore on, but a single mistake was all it took to be way behind in HP.
Managed to get a really close win since he started to get predictable as the match wore on, but a single mistake was all it took to be way behind in HP.
papertoonz
Member
that's just overheat, other pokemon have moves like that
I saw a video of someone that linked Gengar's hypnosis with it's super. That shit is scary.
Weavile is an absolute beast up close so you gotta do your best to keep it away or if you're a close range fighter too then you gotta out predict it.
Weavile is an absolute beast up close so you gotta do your best to keep it away or if you're a close range fighter too then you gotta out predict it.
Nocturnowl
Member
The kind of music track that you immediately notice when first playing the stage.
Char Aznable
Member
any tips for weavile ? , tried him yesterday and it was a blast ,however I feel i'm lacking in the combo deparment
Haloid1177
Banned
Bullet seed. I kinda feel cheap when using it at the end of battles for get that last bit of HP from an opponent, but it works the job and puts them on defense. Also use speed to get in close for grabs. He's faster than most other characters.
I need to beat the leagues to unlock regular Mewtwo. He looks super fun.
This game has disturbingly hi res artwork.
It's a shame they had to sacrifice it in game to hit 60fps. I would love to see how good the internal looked before they downgraded them. If there is any justice we will see an NX version.
Yeah, some of the stage tracks are really great.
So do I, these Bamco Nintendo games have been killing it.
black_clavus
Neo Member
I'm sorry if these kind of question has been posted but is this game worthy for single player only?
I don't feel I like to go online and fighting people and lags, and local multi without second Wii U will be just straight to my friend complaining ;_;
I don't feel I like to go online and fighting people and lags, and local multi without second Wii U will be just straight to my friend complaining ;_;
TDLink
Member
It's a fighting game. It's meant to be played with other people. The single player content will take you a bit to get through but the focus is always going to be on fighting other people. All I can tell you is that the online is good and lag happens rarely. And the local battling without LAN isn't that terrible. It's jarring when you switch to it from playing the rest of the game but you get used to it somewhat fast.
If you have no intention to play the game with other people I can't really recommend it. But I would say that for any fighting game.
sixteen-bit
Member
My favorite track is Magikarp Festival. So hype.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci-FzS1UfmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci-FzS1UfmA
It's a blast, but I'm worried the somewhat limited content is going to lead to a quick burn.
Oni Link 666
Member
I guess if you really like the gameplay. I like SFIV and all I do is play VS CPU. The campaign in Pokken isn't anything special. The story is kids anime bad, the voice acting sucks, and it's grindy as hell.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Same. I need this game tbh
dryuriev7777
Member
So how do you counter Garchomp's underground surfing attack whatever it's called? Had a guy spamming it and I couldn't seem to do anything fast enough as Suicune on block to punish it.
Spinosaurus
Member
I've tried to find out what each character's high and low stance do, here's what I got so far
Lucario:
High: Fills Synergy Gauge
Low: ?
Blaziken:
High: Blocks medium projectiles
Low: Blocks low atacks
Pikachu:
High: Fills Synergy Gauge
Low: ?
Gardevoir:
High: Recovers grey health
Low: ?
R. Pika:
High: Support Gauge fills faster
Low: ?
Sceptile:
High: Recovers grey health
Low: ?
Gengar:
High: Avoids low attacks
Low: ?
Machamp:
High: Doesn't get stunned from high attacks
Low: Blocks low attacks
Braixen:
High: Support Gauge fills faster
Low: ?
Chandelure:
High: Avoids low attacks
Low: ?
Suicune:
High: Stat reductions wear off faster (?)
Low: ?
Weavile:
High: ?
Low: ?
Charizard:
High: Support Gauge fills faster
Low: ?
Garchomp:
High: Doesn't get stunned from medium attacks
Low: ?
Mewtwo:
High: Fills Synergy Gauge
Low: Blocks low attacks
Don't have Shadow Mewtwo. I'm stuck on Weavile's high stance and the majority of character's low stances. I'm not sure if some of these low stances even have special quirks beyond lowering their hurtboxes.
Lucario:
High: Fills Synergy Gauge
Low: ?
Blaziken:
High: Blocks medium projectiles
Low: Blocks low atacks
Pikachu:
High: Fills Synergy Gauge
Low: ?
Gardevoir:
High: Recovers grey health
Low: ?
R. Pika:
High: Support Gauge fills faster
Low: ?
Sceptile:
High: Recovers grey health
Low: ?
Gengar:
High: Avoids low attacks
Low: ?
Machamp:
High: Doesn't get stunned from high attacks
Low: Blocks low attacks
Braixen:
High: Support Gauge fills faster
Low: ?
Chandelure:
High: Avoids low attacks
Low: ?
Suicune:
High: Stat reductions wear off faster (?)
Low: ?
Weavile:
High: ?
Low: ?
Charizard:
High: Support Gauge fills faster
Low: ?
Garchomp:
High: Doesn't get stunned from medium attacks
Low: ?
Mewtwo:
High: Fills Synergy Gauge
Low: Blocks low attacks
Don't have Shadow Mewtwo. I'm stuck on Weavile's high stance and the majority of character's low stances. I'm not sure if some of these low stances even have special quirks beyond lowering their hurtboxes.
Coffee Dog
Banned
It's not, like, awful, but it really is just a series of fights, and it takes the AI until B rank to actually put up a fight.
If you're trying to burn through it to get the unlocks like I am, it can be very draining.
Just counter (X+A) it.
black_clavus
Neo Member
Thanks for the answer
I think, I'll pick up this next month or whenever I got extra cash (and if there's still stocks left)
I'm actually okay with something to grind-ish, as long as the game give me strong feeling of achievement
RomanceDawn
Member
It's tough for me to understand exactly what's happening and what to do. There are so many visual effects I get lost sometimes.
I was in one of the training sessions but I couldn't repeat a step it just kept going. It was trying to show me how to deal with a long range projectile. It seemed kind of complex, it wasn't just shield it was something else. And I could not figure it out. Anyone know what I might be talking about? Cause man I played a Chandelure and the mother fletcher wouldn't let me get close at all.
Any online videos that explain the basics really well?
I was in one of the training sessions but I couldn't repeat a step it just kept going. It was trying to show me how to deal with a long range projectile. It seemed kind of complex, it wasn't just shield it was something else. And I could not figure it out. Anyone know what I might be talking about? Cause man I played a Chandelure and the mother fletcher wouldn't let me get close at all.
Any online videos that explain the basics really well?
I'm kinda curious what resolution the arcade version was, now.
Why is the move list organized so badly? It's hard to tell what some moves actually do, the move list being so clustered doesn't help.
I'm liking most of the characters. I haven't tried them all yet, I'm still mostly doing Ferrum League stuff to unlock everything.
Why is the move list organized so badly? It's hard to tell what some moves actually do, the move list being so clustered doesn't help.
I'm liking most of the characters. I haven't tried them all yet, I'm still mostly doing Ferrum League stuff to unlock everything.
toastyToast
Member
I think Pikachu charges up with low and you get a powered up attack that's blue
Been playing some online matches today. Still love how amazing the netcode is.
Trying to work out if I'm missing anything from my coverage. What do you guys want to see from a resource?
Frame data is something I'm trying to work out, but that's at an insane level of intricacy. I too am also trying to work out stances
Trying to work out if I'm missing anything from my coverage. What do you guys want to see from a resource?
Frame data is something I'm trying to work out, but that's at an insane level of intricacy. I too am also trying to work out stances
Neos City's theme is the hypest.
First time it played, I felt a huge SFIV/Capcom vibe. People can say negative stuff about this game, but the soundtrack is pretty much on point, overall.
First time it played, I felt a huge SFIV/Capcom vibe. People can say negative stuff about this game, but the soundtrack is pretty much on point, overall.
This game is so much fun! I'n in Australia and I can play lag-free with anyone from any country. FINALLY A FIGHTING GAME THAT DOES THIS!!
I main Brax. She's adorable, and I love her moveset. Really getting the hang of the counter and grabs to cancel an opponent's counter or grab. That's the fun stuff.
My only negative so far is Mewtwo's pokecombo. Like, that chain of attacks is so strong and takes out like 3/4 of my HP (or thereabouts). D:
I main Brax. She's adorable, and I love her moveset. Really getting the hang of the counter and grabs to cancel an opponent's counter or grab. That's the fun stuff.
My only negative so far is Mewtwo's pokecombo. Like, that chain of attacks is so strong and takes out like 3/4 of my HP (or thereabouts). D: