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Pokkén Tournament |OT| King of Iron Tail Tournament
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Juke Joint Jezebel
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Played a dozen CPU matches with the Hori Controller. Feels REALLY fucking nice. Face buttons and shoulder buttons all have a nice tactile feel to them, and the D-Pad is responsive and really comfy! For £16 I'm really happy with it, but it's Hori so I expected it to be good. Plus it's wired, which trumps wireless any day!
Playing with the gamepad is pretty viable as well. Apart from the shoulder buttons for blocking, synergy activation, and support partner activation. But that's more of an issue with my small hands than with the actual controller layout, my small fingers always have trouble reaching up to tap the shoulder buttons!
I'm going to be honest: that actually annoys me. There's already Mishima bias in the Tekken series, in gameplay and canon story. Granted this is an early tier list, and I like Heihachi, but still.
Stop treating the Mishima's like they're some holy bloodline, make them on equal footing with the rest of the characters, and for God's sake let the Tekken series evolve. I wouldn't mind if the next Tekken completely did away with the Mishima clan.
So these just arrived!
Time to organize a few local tournament nights with my friends!
Any chance of some impressions and photos of the controller?
Edit: Just seen your impressions above. Sounds very nice!
I would assume the same kind of issues that might happen with Smash (both are based on P2P communication), but since there are only 2 players AFAIK in a Pokken game, there are less connections that could cause issues.
PadWarrior
Member
How's the pro controller for this? Not sue if I want to use that or get the pokken pad
PreyingShark
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It's a Pokken discord, I made it for that purpose from the start. Making it a Pokémon Discord was a temporary thing because of people (AKA RedFyn) who kept bitching. I also made that very clear.
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Windows recognizes it as this:
Tried a few games out that benefit from just a d-pad and here's what I got....
Duck Tales Remastered: Didn't recognize the controller at all, even trying to set it up in the controller config menu bore no results.
Ikaruga: Amazing. Played through a few stages of the game. Game recognized it straight away, and controls fantastically with it! This thing seems godly good for schmups!
Freedom Planet: Recognized it, but had to set up button config. Problem is the game recognizes all directions on the D-pad as the same button, so navigation and controlling the game is impossible.
Cave Story+: Recognized it, but had to configure the controls in the controller options menu.
50/50 split so far. Seems like 3rd party input software may be required for some games. Will try more games later.
Here's a few more pictures for good measure:
Cable Length: About 6 feet.
Shoulder buttons: Slightly curved, but aren't triggers. So big I can fit my index and middle fingers on them at the same time!
Close-up of face buttons and D-Pad. Centre of the D-pad has a slight dip.
The pro controller plays fine for me.
The thing I was the most surprised with are the amount of moves you can pull off. Pretty neat.
Singelplayer so far is rather meh though. Have only played Weavile (adorable) so far.
PadWarrior
Member
Any input lag when using it online?
Also where is the pokken discord?
This is what I was hoping for! Too bad that several games don't work, but I guess that just means it's not Xinput. It sounds like it will probably work in MAME, so I'm thrilled. Thanks so much for testing it...can't wait for mine =)
This is a weird question but I'm honestly curious
Have they gone out and said which gender each pokemon is
I assume most are male, but there's some female pokemon in there, right? Outside of Pikachu Libre, Gardevoir and Braxien are probably female. Maybe Chandelure?
I'm just curious, because usually fighting games try to balance gender but with Pokemon is kind of weird because it's just assumed the default gender for like 99% of Pokemon is male
Have they gone out and said which gender each pokemon is
I assume most are male, but there's some female pokemon in there, right? Outside of Pikachu Libre, Gardevoir and Braxien are probably female. Maybe Chandelure?
I'm just curious, because usually fighting games try to balance gender but with Pokemon is kind of weird because it's just assumed the default gender for like 99% of Pokemon is male
Juke Joint Jezebel
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No gender mentions in the game itself. Only character info I can see is indivual character level in the Ferrum League, fighting style, and W/L ratio with that character. Will keep digging though.
crabhammer
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Whew, I had a fairly late preorder in on the controller from Amazon (late last week) but mine shipped out with the game and will be here today. Seriously didn't expect that of all things to sell out. They must have made 20 of them rofl.
toastyToast
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Charizard is Charizard as fuck my god
Not75Drops
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Demo was pretty fun. Only thing was that the matches end a bit too quickly and then it boots you back to the title screen so it's awkward to get used to battle system and all the moves. I'll probably get the game sometime soon so it's good that the training mode seems pretty in-depth.
MannyToons
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I'm just going to assume Weavile is female. :B
Yeah, I wasn't so lucky. But then, I only pre-ordered on Tuesday. Womp womp.
My guess is that Hori didn't make quite as many of these as their typical product, since it's being marketed as a controller for one specific game.
Garchomp and Pikachu are male based on gender differences.
Weavile seems to be male. All the starters also are likely male, since they have a 87.5:12.5 gender ratio (yes, even Braixen). Strangely enough, Blaziken *seems* to be female, given the size of the feathers (?) on it's head
toastyToast
Member
Damage seems absurdly high in this game
Sir Abacus
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Wow this game is so stupidly fun.
balladofwindfishes
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Pikachu, Blaziken, Garchomp and Weavile have defined gender differences, so those should be able to be found.
Suicune and Mewtwo don't have a gender.
The rest can be whatever you want them to be.
copelandmaster
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Woke up early to get this game from Hyper Hell. Pro controller.
Impressions - This is not Tekken, it just borrows a few things.
I haven't found the 'low jab' in this game yet. I don't think there is one.
This seems very much a fundamentals game, rather than a combo game.
Every move has a windup in terms of input delay and execution. I'm playing on a VG248qe, so its not my display.
The combo buffer is really, really tight. Can't really move to the next input during the combo, more like before. You have to know the string you want and input it before hand. This can lead to some problems with hitting extra buttons.
Get to know your Pokemon's moves! Play tutorial, play practice, play the move tutorial, play the combo tutorial, play it all. This game has a high initial barrier for just jumping in. Every move has a purpose and a specific function, not just for starting combos. You'll miss important stuff, like the fact that Braizen has a counter that can nullify laser spam.
The mind games are real. You have to be a step ahead of your opponent, but not necessarily offensive.
CQC is scrappy. I wouldn't try to beat an opponent to the punch with reflexes, just try beating their move with a better one.
The most important thing I've found is to maintain your health bar. Support Pokemon are absolutely critical for this. Don't get slammed into the wall, your regen pool will go bye bye. I've learned to use Synergy Burst not for offense, but for scaring my opponent from attacking while chipping them out from affar and regaining health.
S.Burst is a free action. Use it to surprise an opponent during their burst attack (i-frames ho!) and squeeze off your own.
Burst attacks are not free on startup. You can be damaged during startup, but the window is extremely small.
Cancels are High Level, not necessarily due to input, but knowing when to use them. Messing up has disastrous results.
S.Bursted Pokes will step through weak attacks. Keep away, unless you are confident in your mind games.
Chandelure is lazer city. Block everything in Field Mode. Get in there as soon as possible, as safely as possible.
Wait for their combo to end, follow up. Trying to interrupt a combo is extremely difficult because it feels like all the moves are linked together very tightly.
Grabbing is easy, like Tekken, but you can be attacked during grabs, even if the grab would land, unlike Tekken.
You can come back from the brink. Standard moves don't really chip shields unless they are held. It's possible to smash faces in from 1 HP.
Impressions - This is not Tekken, it just borrows a few things.
I haven't found the 'low jab' in this game yet. I don't think there is one.
This seems very much a fundamentals game, rather than a combo game.
Every move has a windup in terms of input delay and execution. I'm playing on a VG248qe, so its not my display.
The combo buffer is really, really tight. Can't really move to the next input during the combo, more like before. You have to know the string you want and input it before hand. This can lead to some problems with hitting extra buttons.
Get to know your Pokemon's moves! Play tutorial, play practice, play the move tutorial, play the combo tutorial, play it all. This game has a high initial barrier for just jumping in. Every move has a purpose and a specific function, not just for starting combos. You'll miss important stuff, like the fact that Braizen has a counter that can nullify laser spam.
The mind games are real. You have to be a step ahead of your opponent, but not necessarily offensive.
CQC is scrappy. I wouldn't try to beat an opponent to the punch with reflexes, just try beating their move with a better one.
The most important thing I've found is to maintain your health bar. Support Pokemon are absolutely critical for this. Don't get slammed into the wall, your regen pool will go bye bye. I've learned to use Synergy Burst not for offense, but for scaring my opponent from attacking while chipping them out from affar and regaining health.
S.Burst is a free action. Use it to surprise an opponent during their burst attack (i-frames ho!) and squeeze off your own.
Burst attacks are not free on startup. You can be damaged during startup, but the window is extremely small.
Cancels are High Level, not necessarily due to input, but knowing when to use them. Messing up has disastrous results.
S.Bursted Pokes will step through weak attacks. Keep away, unless you are confident in your mind games.
Chandelure is lazer city. Block everything in Field Mode. Get in there as soon as possible, as safely as possible.
Wait for their combo to end, follow up. Trying to interrupt a combo is extremely difficult because it feels like all the moves are linked together very tightly.
Grabbing is easy, like Tekken, but you can be attacked during grabs, even if the grab would land, unlike Tekken.
You can come back from the brink. Standard moves don't really chip shields unless they are held. It's possible to smash faces in from 1 HP.
jwillenn
Member
demo on NA eshop?
Nintendo is a sponsor at EVO, they will get more than they even want. don't worry about that.
Not75Drops
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No the European one.
OricWindstar
Member
Haven't seen any Garchomps online, but he looks like he's a bitch to deal with.
So ive wanted to get this game ever since Ive heard about it. But after watching the Quick Look and some streams, I feel like its kind a sensory overload. Theres so much going on and so many things on the screen that I find it hard to focus. Are there any UI options?
Also - can you turn off the annoying lady that keeps talking during your fights?
Also - can you turn off the annoying lady that keeps talking during your fights?
You can turn off Nia. That's the first thing I did when I booted up the game.
March of the Crabs
Member
So if I don't have a Pokken controller, what's the ideal one to use for this?
Thank goodness. The stream I was watching didnt have her off and she seriously doesnt ever stop talking.
Gamepad or Pro controller are fine. Whichever you like.
You do need the gamepad to start the game as it ask you to input your game. I watched a stream of a guy that wanted to play but his gamepad was busted, so he had to stop right on the intro screen
toastyToast
Member
is there an actual way to do ewgf with pikachu or is it random?
Saint Gregory
Member
So I just realized that my Pokken controller never shipped which kind of sucks but at the same time realized that when I ordered it Amazon had it priced at $25 instead of $50 :3
toastyToast
Member
The move list telling you what everything is for feels weird for how novel it is. Why is this the first time I've ever seen this? Also having some starter combos listed as well