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Pokkén Tournament |OT| King of Iron Tail Tournament
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Spinosaurus
Member
Of course a Mishima ended up being the best
OricWindstar
Member
If there's not already a plan to, we should set up a Discord chat room.
And with that, my first play session is done. Very surprised that Braixen is the character I'm drawn the most to at the moment. Really love how much ground she can cover and her spacing options.
And with that, my first play session is done. Very surprised that Braixen is the character I'm drawn the most to at the moment. Really love how much ground she can cover and her spacing options.
Spinosaurus
Member
I'd be happy to make one. Really digging the game right now so I'd love to have a place to chat about it like the SmashGAF discord.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
do it
Spinosaurus
Member
papertoonz
Member
here is the thing we already have a pokemon discord with a pokken section
Spinosaurus
Member
I'd figure a dedicated Pokken channel would be better though. Game is pretty much its own thing. Plus having different channels for matchups and wifi matches would be good.
ShinySylvee
Member
Just thought I'd post my first impressions.
First things first, I could never get into fighting games before but this game does a great job at trying to boil the game down to the rock-paper-scissors formula that they've all sort of had by making combos generally fairly easy to get. I think the game could do with a more extensive combo tutorial (Most characters have only 1 or 2 remotely difficult ones to pull off and there's only like 8 listed) but I'm sure given time the best ones will be found out and it won't be hard to look up online. Also I'm really digging the new characters. Been playing Lucario and Gardevoir. Luke actually plays fairly similarly in concept to Shotos so people familiar with Ryu and the like will understand him fairly well. Didn't play him THAT much but he seems fairly well-rounded. Gardevoir is more of a keep away character with a plethora of projectiles and defensive options. I hope there isn't anyone that can force her to approach though because she is extremely slow and has no good aerial approach options. There's a lot of intricacies with her though. I think the lynchpin of her kit is her ability calm mind, which she can activate into 4 different moves, including a teleport, a projectile, and a really powerful counter. On top of that using calm mind also boosts one of her other specials Stored Power, turning it from a fairly mediocre attack to her most powerful move with enough charges. What I like about Pokken is when you go into the moves section it gives a brief description of its special properties and recommends when you should use it. It sounds so simple but it does a great job helping you understand what use each move has, compared to something like Street fighter where you have 12 different grounded options, many of which have similar properties. I feel like I'm really improving quickly playing the game and I'm intending on sticking with this one.
That being said, there are a couple things that are really bugging me so far. I've been trying to practice duel phase combos in training which is why it's annoying as hell that the game keeps switching to Field phase after a couple hits. I get that is what would happen in a normal match but it would be nice to be able to lock the training into a specific phase you're trying to practice. Also practicing the character's supers is really annoying as well since you can usually only use it once per time you activate synergy, which means that in order to use it again you have to wait for the meter to run out and then reactivate synergy. These two problems really hinder the training mode and make it a bit harder to practice. Also your "Helpful" friend whose name I can't forget won't shut up. The VA isn't terrible but she's the only voice you hear for 90% of the game and it gets old super fast. Fortunately you have the option to reduce or remove her dialogue during matches, but even in the "Reduced" dialogue she barely shuts up since she says something whenever something significant happens, and it also doesn't help she only has like 2 lines for each thing. Also the way the game handles local multiplayer is extremely detrimental to the competitive health of the game. (It requires you to own $750 worth of gear plus 2 different TVs to get it playing at 60 FPS) Seriously the massive inconvenience to play this game at it's optimal settings in person might just be enough of a hurdle to prevent a scene from developing. And unfortunately I don't think there's some magical patch that can fix this either.
Hopefully the game gets further development. If it does here's my wishlist:
1. More robust Training mode. Seriously not being able to lock Phase changes really puts a damper on being able to practice things.
2. Give more control over what your partner says in matches. I don't mind her voice in moderation but during a match there's more time when she's talking then when she isn't. It would be nice to make it so she only says when your Support/Synergy gauge is full.
3. Obviously further balance changes are always welcome, as well as additional offline game modes and maybe a harder combo mode.
First things first, I could never get into fighting games before but this game does a great job at trying to boil the game down to the rock-paper-scissors formula that they've all sort of had by making combos generally fairly easy to get. I think the game could do with a more extensive combo tutorial (Most characters have only 1 or 2 remotely difficult ones to pull off and there's only like 8 listed) but I'm sure given time the best ones will be found out and it won't be hard to look up online. Also I'm really digging the new characters. Been playing Lucario and Gardevoir. Luke actually plays fairly similarly in concept to Shotos so people familiar with Ryu and the like will understand him fairly well. Didn't play him THAT much but he seems fairly well-rounded. Gardevoir is more of a keep away character with a plethora of projectiles and defensive options. I hope there isn't anyone that can force her to approach though because she is extremely slow and has no good aerial approach options. There's a lot of intricacies with her though. I think the lynchpin of her kit is her ability calm mind, which she can activate into 4 different moves, including a teleport, a projectile, and a really powerful counter. On top of that using calm mind also boosts one of her other specials Stored Power, turning it from a fairly mediocre attack to her most powerful move with enough charges. What I like about Pokken is when you go into the moves section it gives a brief description of its special properties and recommends when you should use it. It sounds so simple but it does a great job helping you understand what use each move has, compared to something like Street fighter where you have 12 different grounded options, many of which have similar properties. I feel like I'm really improving quickly playing the game and I'm intending on sticking with this one.
That being said, there are a couple things that are really bugging me so far. I've been trying to practice duel phase combos in training which is why it's annoying as hell that the game keeps switching to Field phase after a couple hits. I get that is what would happen in a normal match but it would be nice to be able to lock the training into a specific phase you're trying to practice. Also practicing the character's supers is really annoying as well since you can usually only use it once per time you activate synergy, which means that in order to use it again you have to wait for the meter to run out and then reactivate synergy. These two problems really hinder the training mode and make it a bit harder to practice. Also your "Helpful" friend whose name I can't forget won't shut up. The VA isn't terrible but she's the only voice you hear for 90% of the game and it gets old super fast. Fortunately you have the option to reduce or remove her dialogue during matches, but even in the "Reduced" dialogue she barely shuts up since she says something whenever something significant happens, and it also doesn't help she only has like 2 lines for each thing. Also the way the game handles local multiplayer is extremely detrimental to the competitive health of the game. (It requires you to own $750 worth of gear plus 2 different TVs to get it playing at 60 FPS) Seriously the massive inconvenience to play this game at it's optimal settings in person might just be enough of a hurdle to prevent a scene from developing. And unfortunately I don't think there's some magical patch that can fix this either.
Hopefully the game gets further development. If it does here's my wishlist:
1. More robust Training mode. Seriously not being able to lock Phase changes really puts a damper on being able to practice things.
2. Give more control over what your partner says in matches. I don't mind her voice in moderation but during a match there's more time when she's talking then when she isn't. It would be nice to make it so she only says when your Support/Synergy gauge is full.
3. Obviously further balance changes are always welcome, as well as additional offline game modes and maybe a harder combo mode.
I haven't heard any remixes yet. That's actually one of my main complaints about the game. The music is great, but I would have liked some new versions of classic tracks too.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
papertoonz
Member
it's a counter hit
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I hope this game sells well.
Spiritreaver
Member
? There's almost 30 streams on Twitch right now.
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Pokkén Tournament
sixteen-bit
Member
It's out on eShop. Floe and Rico Suave were streaming earlier.
Yeah, it's a genre that hasn't had much rep on Nintendo consoles lately. Would be nice if it does well and could become a series.
Don't know what to expect sales wise. They've been pushing it a fair bit and it's Pokemon, but it's a fighting game and it's on Wii U.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's 3am breh
There are a ton of Japanese streams going on right now. Like 30 at the moment on Nico.
this is a decent stream for a Tairenar player.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv256448977
Lizardon stream
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv256452038
The_Intruder
Member
It begins, the combo showcase by the players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoHTxBescdI&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoHTxBescdI&feature=youtu.be
Anybody know if the LAN feature is cross-region compatible?
Wouldn't mind picking up another copy for my JP Wii U if it means I can have a proper 2 player set up with my US Wii U.
Normally it'd be easy to assume it is, but then you have weird exceptions like Mario Kart 7 on 3DS not being cross-region compatible.
Wouldn't mind picking up another copy for my JP Wii U if it means I can have a proper 2 player set up with my US Wii U.
Normally it'd be easy to assume it is, but then you have weird exceptions like Mario Kart 7 on 3DS not being cross-region compatible.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
So these just arrived!
Time to organize a few local tournament nights with my friends!
Time to organize a few local tournament nights with my friends!
I think this is another adapter situation where not enough were made so they had to push any future orders to April. The controller by itself seems sold out on their site but the bundle says April.
Japanmanx3
Member
YOOOOOO Yvetal and Reshiram supports? Oh how I need DLC for this game!
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Like Smash?
Garrett Hawke
Member
Still no Pokken demo on the US eShop :/ dang it nintendo
MannyToons
Member
Whaaaat. And I was looking forward to trying it when I got home. u_u
Well Smash is a well known franchise and has much more appeal.
Pokken isn't going to do anything near Smash numbers.
toastyToast
Member
eshop updates at midnight right? Can't see this yet
I got it already from the Canadian eshop.
Unless you mean the demo, in which case lol noa
El Sabroso
Member
updates at 9 am PST, but some game releases are at midnight which was the case for pokken
toastyToast
Member
Cool. Turned out I was a bit early (AU release is the 19th). Downloading now
Skipped out on the Hori Controller, the Gamepad/ControllerPro is fine.
As for online, I've been playing for the past three days and I only remember one instance of lag, and it wasn't a detriment at all. Almost all of my online matches have been completely lag free, so it's way better than Smash, imo.
Oh, these are impressions from a wired user. So that probably factors into it, too.
DonkeySauce
Neo Member
I was looking through initial impressions, reviews and on the serebii page and couldn't find if this was confirmed anywhere, so sorry if I missed it.
Is there a local tournament mode, with a bracket and what not? I would love to host a local tournament with my friends with a bracket. Did the latest Smash ever add that feature?
Thanks!
Is there a local tournament mode, with a bracket and what not? I would love to host a local tournament with my friends with a bracket. Did the latest Smash ever add that feature?
Thanks!
Ginger Hail
Member
No idea. Wanted to preorder mine from Best Buy, but ended up having to go with Amazon. Fry's might get it considering they've stocked other fighting game specialty controllers before.