What if he implodes in his next 2 debates?
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What if he implodes in his next 2 debates?
The Lamonster
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The Obama campaign is not going roll over and let Romney win this. His campaign is aggressive and they'll do what they have to in order to win. Romney got fucked in September and Obama didn't bother trying in the first debate because he didn't feel like he had to engage him. That obviously didn't work out in his favor, and I guarantee it won't happen again.
I understand where he is coming from. He's going to bat for his constituents. The problem is that it's not the whole story, and the plant could still be functional with work for foreign allies. I don't think it's necessarily wrong of him, and Jim Jordan, but it contrasts with the way the Pentagon is going and how they envision the future of the military.
I think he's proved that he's cared about Ohio during his term. Whether or not the voters see it that way is yet to be determined.
north dakota was a tossup :lol
Sarcasm I'm guessing.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obam...ion-donors#overlay-context=users/rjagodzinski
August numbers: Obama, $114M. Romney, $111M.
soul creator
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Man, those auto tune the news guys are still around? lol
North Dakota and Montana were close in '08. Honestly for 2016/2020 I see those two and AZ/GA going blue quite easily if the Republican party doesn't change.
North Dakota was closer than it was in 2004. Even with that being said it was still 53% McCain to ~45% Obama. Not very close in the grand scheme of things.
So are you saying the PPP poll is oversampled and thus closer to being an outlier?
Say it ain't so, man.
PhoenixDark
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Are they saying 19% of Ohioans have voted early, or that 19% of the people they polled have voted early?
I think the right candidate could swing Montana easily. Clinton won it in 92, lost it by 2% in 96, and Obama only lost it by around 2% last time around. Their governor and both of their Senators are Democrats. Hillary has a broad appeal, and I think she could bring states like Montana into play. Like a lot of other states, they like moderate democrats, but don't do well with New England liberal types.
Heh, did I not talk about this today? Take note, PD.
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I have to disagree with you on Fox News. It's not a simple right slant, it's an all out propaganda machine for the republicans.
Montana possibly, North Dakota I highly doubt it.
Yeah I was going to add that in there. Fox News is the PR mouthpiece for the Republican party. MSNBC is like a bunch of fanboys for the democrats, and a scattered few that happen to think in a left leaning way.
The latter.
You really think the poll is off by a factor of ten and nobody noticed except one dickwad in New Hampshire on Twitter? If it's that wrong, we'll hear about it soon enough. Remember that:
* the campaigns don't get informed who the ballots are cast for, so whatever statistics those are, they are not the official "how many ballots are cast" statistics;
* you don't have to give party identification when requesting an absentee ballot in Ohio;
* Ohio has early voting in person as well as absentee voting for all of October.
Aaron Strife
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I think this is it.
So this just came out:
Bullshit. Obama led by 4 in PPP's last poll, this time he leads by 5. I know they point to the poll aggregate being closer (and it is), but this was timed specifically after the PPP poll. Trailing by 4 points to trailing by 5 points is not "closing gap."Yahoo News said:
All Romney would have to do is say that it happened after he left the company, as this deal went through in 2010.
::facepalm::
You don't think Nate would have raised some concerns if it were that big of a deal?
But what if Nate's wrong, man? What if he's wrong?
Jesus dude just see a shrink already and get some Xanax.
SNL's Paul Ryan impression is terrible, but the skit is pretty funny.
I think shutting down this conversation is for your own good.
I'm merely pointing out that he did raise some good questions.
I think shutting down this conversation is for your own good.
ah, feels good to not be a psycho overreactor like other Dems after the debate. sanity feels good man!
Diablos said:
Hahaha, amazing. Psyched himself up over a bs Arizona poll; finds any opportunity to meltdown over consistently positive Ohio polling. lol. Fellow PA brother, relax.
...I'm not melting down, I quoted someone else's post.
I thought about commenting, but it's best to just let their kind be. They're on the brink as it is.
Aaron Strife
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You're all voting for him right?
Fox News is not right leaning. It's a mouthpiece for the Republican Party. I think that networks like CNN are right leaning per say because they painfully try not to call out any bullshit or live in fear that fox news might call them out. Due to this pandering to the far right they end up leaning to the right to try and get those viewers.
He won so many delegates that federal law requires that he just be granted all of the electoral votes.
I don't think that really makes CNN right leaning, just bad at journalism. Republicans just tend to do a better job of exploiting it.
Aaron Strife
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This election's just for funsies. Dunno why you're all freakin' out.
I doubt it sadly. I've worked with the general public here on a daily basis for years and the number of racists and/or right-wing republicans is fairly staggering. I would LOVE to see it swing the other way, but I don't think it'll happen. Its largest city (billings, where I live) is half ran by church organizations, the biggest of which includes some of the most right-leaning people I've ever met. It may be because I'm not longer in college, but it felt like their was a lot more buzz for Obama in '08, than there is this time around. I could be completely wrong there. It really falls on how many young voters get out there.
Tester has done a really great job here though, and I'm certain he'll get another term.
I disagree. Just because they are terrible are journalism doesn't mean that republicans haven't pushed the network to the "right". I don't think it should be a contest between the parties to see who can "exploit" the media more. CNN has allowed themselves to move to the right to pander to the republican base.
Yeah, what I would say is that Fox is right-leaning and every television network is terrible at journalism. The problem is that they're not in the business of providing news to viewers, they're in the business of providing viewers to advertisers -- different problem, different approach.
PhoenixDark
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CNN certainly is right leaning. They frame budget issues as being solely dependent on cutting "entitlements," war monger on Iran, and love Paul Ryan. They clearly don't go as full retard as Fox or MSNBC does for the left, but CNN is center right. To make matters worse, they deliberately attempt to give republicans "equal" respect which apparently means to give credence to ridiculous anti-Obama views such as the Jack Welsh shit.
From what I saw of their reaction to the Jack Welsh shit they mostly seemed to rip it to shreds...but then again the only things I watch on CNN are Soledad and AC360.
Places like Bozeman and Missoula that attract people from states like Cali and Oregon have the ability to turn the state blue in the next decade or so. MT is similar to NC in that respect.
PhoenixDark
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Those two actually do some reporting. Blitzer and company are basically Beltway concern trolls
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