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[Cloudy]

Unless Kerry is on the other end of that phone and they're doing over-the-phone debate prep it seems to me like he's wasting his time and looking to get run over again on Tuesday.

I'll be bumping this post if Obama looks unprepared on Tuesday

I don't buy into Obama not practicing enough for the last debate. They had a strategy not to sharply engage with Romney and it backfired.

Also, It's never bad to show up and mingle with the people working their asses off for you

 

[Diablos]

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls

We'll have North Carolina stuff for you between 9 and 10

zomg

 

[teiresias]

zomg

Why do you even care? I mean, it's gone already.

 

[littleworm]

Anyone want to give predictions for NC?

 

[Black Republican]

zomg

imma say 48-46 to Romney

 

[Forever]

538 already updated for the day and we've got Obama up to 63%.

Anyone want to give predictions for NC?

I predict it's gonna look ugly, it's NC after all.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

Gained a couple of pixels on 538.

 

[teiresias]

Also, It's never bad to show up and mingle with the people working their asses off for you

"Hey guys, you all are doing great work and working your butts off, sorry I didn't bother to do the same."

 

[Diablos]

It's important, but it's not going to get him back into states where he's down 3-4%. Which is why he has to do his job on Tuesday.

Everyone--literally everyone-- has done their jobs so far. Clinton and Michelle at the DNC. Biden in the debate. He's got to do this!

Yep. Everyone showed up but the Pres thus far. It's kind of strange really.

It is a 3 second photo op. Calm down.

Yeah, 3 seconds guys. As soon as he finished he went straight back to debate prep without uttering a word until he got there.
Seriously, I hope Obama didn't get tired of doing his "homework" again.

I predict 49R/46O in NC

 

[eBay Huckster]

i'm gonna predict R+1 or a tie in NC

 

[Officerrob]

Romney up three or four

 

[Cloudy]

"Hey guys, you all are doing great work and working your butts off, sorry I didn't bother to do the same."

touche lol

I'll stand by my assertion that it was a strategy to keep Obama's negatives down. It didn't work because Romney was so aggressive and ended up making him look weak and passive.

 

[Loudninja]

Really whats the point? the poll drops soon.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Yep. Everyone showed up but the Pres thus far. It's kind of strange really.

Oh please, stop exaggerating. That is far from true and you know it.

 

[Loudninja]

"Hey guys, you all are doing great work and working your butts off, sorry I didn't bother to do the same."

I really hope you are not being serious.

 

[AniHawk]

Anyone want to give predictions for NC?

somewhere between 9 and 10

 

[Y2Kev]

9:17 pm

 

[reilo]

PS2: 538 Updated. Slight uptick for Obama

Doesn't have the PPP poll in there for Colorado.

 

[Forever]

I thought we've been over this already? All the liberals throwing Obama under the bus are doing the Republican's jobs for them. Remember; they took Paul Ryan's debate performance, wherein he had his anal cavity turned inside out, and managed to convince the media that it was a tie by acting like it was. Today's reality is nothing more than the appearances we maintain.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Predicting a tie.

 

[Half and half]

I'm going with Romney up 3 in NC.

 

[Diablos]

I thought we've been over this already? All the liberals throwing Obama under the bus are doing the Republican's jobs for them. Remember; they took Paul Ryan's debate performance, wherein he had his anal cavity turned inside out, and managed to convince the media that it was a tie by acting like it was. Today's reality is nothing more than the appearances we maintain.

Obama threw himself under the bus dude. Now he has to redeem himself. That's pretty much what this boils down to

 

[Effect]

I think I'm going to skip watching the debate live and wait for reports on how it went. I don't think I can take watching it live like the last time. Unless it's very clear early on that Obama is bringing his A game. The way Biden was the first few minutes set the entire tone. Obama needs to come out strong with the answer to his first question. He has to call out Romney during that time.

 

[Loudninja]

Oh please, stop exaggerating. That is far from true and you know it.

That nonsense gets very tiresome.

 

[Forever]

Obama threw himself under the bus dude.

No motherfucker, we did. That debate was not bad enough to justify such a massive tank in the polls; that occurred because of the media coverage and unanimity among both Republicans and Democrats that Obama had lost the debate.

Paul Ryan apparently "tied" his debate while getting hanged by his own intestines because his supporters were behind him no matter what.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

And being able to communicate with voters why he was the better choice. Remember? His charisma, platform, etc. All of that didn't show up for the first debate. Ground game alone will only do so much. It's a critical component of the Obama campaign, but not the only one.

And yeah, Romney has proven to be a much more formidable candidate than McCain.

No,the second debate is where charisma is a factor. Biden won his debate while being a complete asshole. Regular 1 on 1 debates are more about regurgitating facts in a digestable manner.

 

[teiresias]

NC Prediction: R+8

 

[Particle Physicist]

Predicting a tie.

The media/republicans won't let it be called overwhelmingly for Obama, even if it's like another Biden/Ryan debate (sans laughing).

 

[eBay Huckster]

The media/republicans won't let it be called overwhelmingly for Obama, even if it's like another Biden/Ryan debate (sans laughing).

i'm not sure if this post wouldn't be applicable to both the debate and polls of North Carolina

 

[Aaron Strife]

The media/republicans won't let it be called overwhelmingly for Obama, even if it's like another Biden/Ryan debate (sans laughing).

I meant north carolina


The debate i bet will be won by obama but called a tie

 

[Mercury Fred]

No,the second debate is where charisma is a factor. Biden won his debate while being a complete asshole. Regular 1 on 1 debates are more about regurgitating facts in a digestable manner.

lol, no. By no measure was Biden a "complete asshole." He was mild, even timid compared to what the walking pile of lies and distractions called Paul Ryan deserved.

 

[Particle Physicist]

i'm not sure if this post wouldn't be applicable to both the debate and polls of North Carolina

I meant north carolina


The debate i bet will be won by obama but called a tie

Haha, yeah, sorry, I thought you were talking about the debate

 

[Forever]

For further reading on how to loyally cover for your candidate, check this thread and do an in-thread search for posts by Bulbo Urethral Baggins.

 

[ivysaur12]

Romney +3. Would love a tie (at best). Wish we had a VA poll coming out.

 

[HylianTom]

Romney +3. Would love a tie (at best). Wish we had a VA poll coming out.

Agreed, on all sentiments.

I'd also love to see IA/CO/NV data, 'cause it looks like Obama might end-up getting this done without any help from the South this time around.

 

[Loudninja]

Agreed, on all sentiments.

I'd also love to see IA/CO/NV data, 'cause it looks like Obama might end-up getting this done without any help from the South this time around.

We will get a CO poll after the debate.

 

[kingkitty]

it'll be a tie. I bet my cats on it.

 

[Trurl]

Obama's chances up for the second night on 538?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KClpLzFftU

 

[johnsmith]

Probably a dead cat bounce.

 

[bananas]

Obama's chances up for the second night on 538?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KClpLzFftU

Yes, but he lost 0.1 electoral votes, so it's time to panic once again.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Paul Ryan apparently "tied" his debate while getting hanged by his own intestines because his supporters were behind him no matter what.

Exactly.

 

[Sirpopopop]

For further reading on how to loyally cover for your candidate, check this thread and do an in-thread search for posts by Bulbo Urethral Baggins.

I have no intention of living in fantasy based reality.

That's why I'm not a Republican.

 

[littleworm]

Exactly.

I think sometimes the left would benefit form drinking some the the republican crazy juice. I mean if you were in a sports event and your opponent was using PED's and wasn't going to get called out on it, shouldn't you use it as well?

 

[RockTurtle]

im going to put myself under a rock until nov 7th, i'm literally getting nausea from nervousness

 

[bananas]

I think sometimes the left would benefit form drinking some the the republican crazy juice. I mean if you were in a sports event and your opponent was using PED's and wasn't going to get called out on it, shouldn't you use it as well?

Not if we can beat them without it.

Besides, Democrats are already crazy in their own special way. This thread proves it.

 

[maximum360]

I'm running on a platform where Kosmo will be unbanned so that he and EV can only view each other's posts.

Everyone else can watch.

Nah, it should be limited to EV and TA.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Nah, it should be limited to EV and TA.

EV and Something Wicked

 

[Sirpopopop]

Not if we can beat them without it.

I'd rather not become that which I hold disapproval for...

 

[Baraka in the White House]

I think sometimes the left would benefit form drinking some the the republican crazy juice. I mean if you were in a sports event and your opponent was using PED's and wasn't going to get called out on it, shouldn't you use it as well?

It's certainly a fine line to walk between getting behind your guy but not becoming a zealot but when it comes to managing a narrative-hungry media a distinction needs to be made. In this case Obama voters contributed almost as much to the narrative that he was savaged by Romney as Republicans did.

 

[Hobbestetrician]

I think sometimes the left would benefit form drinking some the the republican crazy juice. I mean if you were in a sports event and your opponent was using PED's and wasn't going to get called out on it, shouldn't you use it as well?

It's not even that. If your team turns the ball over and the other team scores to make the game closer are you should cheer your brains out to help prop your team up, not head for the parking lot hanging your head or start booing if you can still win.