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No way the Supreme Court takes the case.
empty vessel
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It would indeed dissuade voters, especially those in urban neighborhoods distrustful of law enforcement (read: minorities). For example, they may think it is not legal to vote without an ID. If they don't have an ID, they may not want to risk what is presented to them as several years in jail just to vote. So they will stay home. That is the very purpose of these signs. They should be taken down.
The Librarian
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I like you more than Kosmo.
Obama has to get the message across that investors really aren't "job creators" but the American public is via being consumers. No one would invest on anything regardless of tax rates if there wasn't any demand so that the business would not make money. In fact, I'd say the true job creators are the scientists, engineers, and innovators (like Steve Jobs) etc, not people like Romney who don't do crap or Wall St, where their "innovative" financial products doomed us all. And that's why we need to invest in education and science, etc.
He can say himself or Romney makes as much money as 1000 families, but they don't have 1000 TV's, cars, so to generate demand, drive business, and strengthen the economy, more taxes have to be put on him and Romney and less on the middle class. Also, if the middle class isn't paying an arm and a leg for health insurance, they'd have more money to spend and drive the economy.
He can say himself or Romney makes as much money as 1000 families, but they don't have 1000 TV's, cars, so to generate demand, drive business, and strengthen the economy, more taxes have to be put on him and Romney and less on the middle class. Also, if the middle class isn't paying an arm and a leg for health insurance, they'd have more money to spend and drive the economy.
read something on Huffypo that the campaigns are not so hot on Crowley potentially showing a moderating backbone during the next debate. but those MOU things for the debates have always been smelly. Crowley needs to become Raddatz and rain hell in tomorrow's debate, town hall format be damned.
but she probably wont.
but she probably wont.
Dr. Pangloss
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Communist Countries:
Britain
France
Germany
Japan
South Korea
Italy
Spain
Canada
Cuba
China
The Land of the Free:
United States
Somalia
Enough with your cheesy debate fanfic. You totally jinxed us last time.
TacticalFox88
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Holy shit, I fucking lost it as soon as I read "Somalia". :lol :lol :lol
hydragonwarrior
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More Kosmo than Bulbo tho. More of a Kosmulbo.
She's stepping down anyway, of course she didn't have to.
I also don't think that Obama's team would've wanted her to do this, I doubt the public is going to accept it at face value.
She's allowed but if she were wearing that at church or other places where church people were around they'd raise eyebrows, as in seen in this dude I met.
I see. As a follow up, did that guy say he was going to vote for Obama instead, or is he just not voting now?
Fixed.
Not voting.
Bad news for Obama then.
all the praises rained on raddatz could influence her in some way?
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html
This is about a month late. Then again it was pretty blatantly political that the GOP would bypass the State Dept. and attack the WH directly
This is about a month late. Then again it was pretty blatantly political that the GOP would bypass the State Dept. and attack the WH directly
She did. For some reason the media is taking the GOP's cue and blaming the WH for mid-level decisions at state. All the while Clinton escaped any scrutiny or criticism. WTF?
If I were her I wouldn't want to be outdone.
ryutaro's mama
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i hope that's the case, we'll see soon enough. it's certain that Crowley wont inhabit the spirit of a helpless senior citizen. but that's not saying much :/
Arrowgigantic
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Well, she did, pretty much, because it's the truth. Embassies and consulates are the State Department. She's the SecState. I mean, Obama is the top guy and he shares the responsibility because he appointed her and he's supposed to stay on top of things. But at the same time, this was something that was supposed to be handled by her office.
And it's not like this even directly involved her, either. Some undersecretary didn't make the right call or was too slow. And Foreign Service in a post-revolutionary country is still dangerous, no matter how good security is. Still, Hillary was right to own this. The Foreign Service is hers.
Dreamcaster
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I think the media narrative is more than just the security issue - the bigger question seems to be why the White House stuck by the "movie" narrative for almost 2 weeks when it was apparent the day after that it was a planned terrorist attack. I can give the WH a pass on the security issue, since that was probably internal to the State Dept, but the movie story is just wacky.
This New York Times graphic shows the electoral swings of every state since 1952.
Hawaii is Obama's true home state. He turned it from a 10 point spread in 2004 into by far the bluest state in the union in 2008. 72% of the vote Goddamn. That kind of margin hasn't been seen in any state since LBJ vs. Goldwater.
Hawaii is Obama's true home state. He turned it from a 10 point spread in 2004 into by far the bluest state in the union in 2008. 72% of the vote Goddamn. That kind of margin hasn't been seen in any state since LBJ vs. Goldwater.
Yup, but gotta hand it to the guy. He's not falling into the "Well I gotta vote for the other guy." trap.
What probably happened is since both attacks (and others) happened the same day, everyone just assumed they were related. There was pressure to speak on it and nobody really knew all the details.
Movie protest or not, 4 Americans died. Whatever the initial story was wouldn't subject them to any less criticism from the GOP. And to be fair, everyone who spoke couched it with, "based on what we know now". The Director of Intelligence said as much a few weeks back.
Or do you think the WH would make up a story based on no intelligence? Why would they do that when all the Republicans at DOD would just leak the truth to Fox? You don't really think they're that stupid, do you?
I don't think it will change the media narrative at all. Now we just have an extra layer of Obama shirking responsibility.
The media is fucking dumb.
The media trying to make up for going along with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The president waited twelve days to say it was a terrorist attack! TWELVE DAYS! IMPEACH THIS MAN!
PhoenixDark
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Obama throwing Clinton under the bus. Pathetic
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/candy-crowley-debate-town-hall-moderator-220926282--election.html
Why would a moderator need practice? lol
Why would a moderator need practice? lol
Probably nothing. Almost no one cares now (and according to the Ohio poll, people prefer Obama on Libya anyway). In four years this will be like a tiny speck.
I still wouldn't have done it.
Republicans would try to bring it up in 4 years but I doubt the public will care, especially if we're in the middle of an economic recovery.
ETA: I think this wouldn't have happened if Biden didn't say "We were not told of requests"
PhoenixDark
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I'd love to know how Bill is responding to this
Byakuya769
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If Hillary can get away with murder, she can get away with this.
Uh... didn't we have a female moderator last week?
He's probably not there for her. Doesn't it make you sad to think about Hillary? I bet she just feels so alone in the world right now.
you are now officially a caricature.
I assume they're not counting VP debates.
Nobody really cares about libya lets be honest here, republicans are just using it as political opportunism. If hilary wants to run in 2016 it won't have any effect imo.
Byakuya769
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Come on now. Romney ... Ryan. Romney ... Ryan.
Oh, duh... I suppose that is a big difference, lol
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