Byakuya769
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.. yea, it sure is.
FYI - "He was right before he was wrong." Is a "he was for it before he was against it" riff.
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.. yea, it sure is.
FYI - "He was right before he was wrong." Is a "he was for it before he was against it" riff.
Republicans Try To Seize Control Of The Word Binder Following Debate
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/republicans-empty-binder.php?ref=fpa
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The Autumn Wind
She shouldn't even have to. I don't see any problem with the moderator correcting a blatantly incorrect accusation being thrown out, especially when she had the information in front of her.
He wasn't right though. Thats the whole point. Of all the things he could of choose to attack about Libya, he choose the one that Obama actually did correctly.
Edit: see your second post.
PhoenixDark
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She repeats what she said during the debate: Obama is right that he called it an act of terror, Romney is right that the administration focused on the video for two weeks
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The Autumn Wind
So hilariously desperate.
Almost as funny as MR's embarrassment when Crowley proved him wrong last night. Almost.
this whole thing is a pile of Obamaloney.
"Desperate" is apt. Time is running out for them. Obama had most likely reversed polling's general direction. There's lots of ground to make-up in must-win Ohio. I fully expect their desperation to be more and more visible as time goes on.
Byakuya769
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Why exactly am I supposed to be outraged over the confusion of "it was due to the tape" versus "it was an organized pre-planned attack!" What does that information change for me? How does that information affect my perception of the response?
I honestly cannot parse what I should be angry about.
And the outrage is coming from the same people who are ok with satellite pics of "WMD" trailers?
I honestly cannot parse what I should be angry about.
And the outrage is coming from the same people who are ok with satellite pics of "WMD" trailers?
Officerrob
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Trying to control something that has already blown-up doesn't usually work out too well. I'm sure Fox News viewers will feverishly masterbate over it though
Ah, it's nice to be back to the days when Republicans had comically bad messaging. The days we called September. This augurs well for the polls. (And remember, the campaigns already have internals, so if they're acting like it's September again....)
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-clarifies-binders-full-of-women-remark-on-cbs-this-morning/
Someone wanna parse Ryan's comments on Lily Ledbetter?
Someone wanna parse Ryan's comments on Lily Ledbetter?
CHEEZMO
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Fuckin' Obama, man!
Why does the GOP insist on making culture issues, especially in regards to women a focal point. I know they live in a bubble but all this does is make people even more aware of their feelings on the matter
And this is just stupid ass, people are going to be like WTF are they babbling about and be re-introduced to the binder of women lol
electricpirate
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Does the whole "Acts of terror" thing strike anyone else as similar to "You didn't build that" in terms of how it is coming across? If you're best defense is lexical parsing, you are losing that argument.
you didn't build that didn't end up mattering much, we'll see how this one plays out.
I do want our state department and CIA to be on the same page, conflicting messages isn't good for anyone, but on the importance scale, I'd say it rates about a 2-3 out of 10.
Conservatives get worked up for two reasons, one it's a crack in the armor of Obama FP and there aren't many. Two it fits into the worldview that Obama is out there bowing to terrorists and trying to protect them, by not jumping up and down screaming AlQueda he's actually trying to shield muslims because he likes to apologize.
you didn't build that didn't end up mattering much, we'll see how this one plays out.
I do want our state department and CIA to be on the same page, conflicting messages isn't good for anyone, but on the importance scale, I'd say it rates about a 2-3 out of 10.
Conservatives get worked up for two reasons, one it's a crack in the armor of Obama FP and there aren't many. Two it fits into the worldview that Obama is out there bowing to terrorists and trying to protect them, by not jumping up and down screaming AlQueda he's actually trying to shield muslims because he likes to apologize.
Krauser Kat
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CHEEZMO™;43313515 said:
Here ya go. Transparent PNG.
Black Mamba
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If only we could find the Binders full of tax deductions!
Byakuya769
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Or tax returns.
I'm actually a bit surprised Obama didn't bring up Romney's inability to show his tax returns, maybe someone thought it would come across as too petty in his debate prep with so many other things that were wrong with him.
PhoenixDark
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Black Mamba
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He mentioned his tax rate but I do think Obama would be walking a fine line with the tax returns.
On the flip side, Obama made a quip when Romney attacked his portfolio. Obama could have gone nasty and said "well governor, we'd like to know what you are investing in overseas, but you won't release your tax returns and show us."
But I do think Obama played it right. Romney came off as a douche in that exchange and Obama stayed above it.
Byakuya769
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"Please proceed, Governor" needs to be a thing. Such a beautiful set-up.
RustyNails
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I mentioned in the other thread: Drown the conversation in semantics is GOP's line of attack, so they can confuse the person who wants to know where the words 'binder full of women' came from.
Black Mamba
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I hope they bring the binders stuff up more and more so that it can be shown Romney is lying about it to begin with.
But won't that make them figure out where the binders come from, thus making it worse for Romney lol
Its like when Romney's people kept saying WE ARE DONE TALKING ABOUT TAXES, and then Romney and his wife bring it back up during an interview and reignite the topic
lol, way to make Colt feel better for losing his starting gig, confuse him with Weeden.
Yeah. Where the hell did "trickle-down government" come from?
:jnc
Officerrob
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Frank Luntz
Rove, Rove, Rove.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
What Republicans hope is that you will think because it was premeditated that they should have been prepared for it. If they were able to tie that with repeated requests for enhanced security and the prior attacks on the consulate over the past month, that would have been a convincing blow to a relatively tarnish-free foreign policy (sure, you and I hate drone attacks, but the American public loves them, apparently) and would set up a more even foreign policy debate. Unfortunately for Romney, he struck out on what was a total setup in his favor.
Ignatz Mouse
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They must coordninate this shit. One of the papers' headlines referred to the binder issues of each candidate.
Somebody still needs to ask Romney to diagram that phrase so we can figure out what the fuck he's talking about.
Officerrob
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Republicans receive their marching orders and for the most part never deviate.
PhoenixDark
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If Obama were to win, how would you guys prefer he handle the various cuts that go into place in January?
I'm not sure I want Obama to do anything this year outside of maybe cancel some of the defense cuts that directly impact jobs. Overall though I think he should let everything expire, which would give him around 5T in revenue to play around with. I think Obama should offer a tax cut for those making $300k and under, roll back some more of the defense cuts (but not all, obviously), and also attach the legislation aimed at getting veterans into the work force (security jobs).
If republicans reject it, oh well. More revenue for Obama. Let them go back to their districts and explain why they won't cut middle income taxes
I'm not sure I want Obama to do anything this year outside of maybe cancel some of the defense cuts that directly impact jobs. Overall though I think he should let everything expire, which would give him around 5T in revenue to play around with. I think Obama should offer a tax cut for those making $300k and under, roll back some more of the defense cuts (but not all, obviously), and also attach the legislation aimed at getting veterans into the work force (security jobs).
If republicans reject it, oh well. More revenue for Obama. Let them go back to their districts and explain why they won't cut middle income taxes
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Now THAT'S a ticket I'd vote for in 2016.
They do coordinate it. Once the memo comes down from the leadership, they're in lock-step on talking points. That's how their powerful echo chamber works.
The Librarian
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You can definitely tell Obama won because the way each campaign is handling aftermath. Romney campaign hitting "binders full of women," Obama campaign hitting Romney.
ryutaro's mama
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Real talk, PHONEX, what percentage chance do you give the President to be re-elected?
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