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PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.

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ivysaur12

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Dax01 said:
We gotta make the Senate gayer.
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PhoenixDark

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quadriplegicjon said:
lol, wait, so is she planning on running for something if he wins? She ain't Hillary.
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Honestly given the way she has operated I think there are two possibilities. First is that she just threw that in as a semi-joke, or attempt to seem like she'd consider such a thing. The other, and more likely imo, possibility, is that she thinks women like her so much that they'll vote for her husband just to "keep hope alive' that she'll run. She seems delusional whenever she talks about what women think, or what Hispanics think.

She claims that women weren't stressed in 2008, and could think about multiple issues - but this year women ONLY think about jobs. It's ludicrous
 
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RDreamer

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Black Republican said:
IA POLL (NBC/WSJ/Marist): 34% report having already voted, support Obama 67% vs. 32% Romney
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Stick a fork in it. Iowa's done. What kind of crazy math would Romney have to do in order to swing that on election day? wow

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Honestly given the way she has operated I think there are two possibilities. First is that she just threw that in as a semi-joke, or attempt to seem like she'd consider such a thing. The other, and more likely imo, possibility, is that she thinks women like her so much that they'll vote for her husband just to "keep hope alive' that she'll run. She seems delusional whenever she talks about what women think, or what Hispanics think.

She claims that women weren't stressed in 2008, and could think about multiple issues - but this year women ONLY think about jobs. It's ludicrous
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She obviously lives in her rich person bubble and clearly has no clue how a normal woman or family actually functions. It'd be scary if your opinion were true, that she thought women loved her so much, but I could see it happening with her. I remember another interview where she just refused that notion that women think about other things, because she's been all over the country and she's ONLY heard that, and those women LOVE her.
 
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pigeon

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Black Republican said:
WSJ/Marist/NBC - Oct 15-17

Iowa - Romney 43% - Obama 51%

Wisconsin - Romney 45% - Obama 51%
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Wow. I did not expect to see that, but I'll take it.

coldfoot said:
I have to ask...what are the conservatives conserving?
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Mostly they just want us to enact change, you know, conservatively. I mean, Andrew Sullivan is a conservative in that he thinks we should move towards universal health care, gay marriage and a stronger welfare state...slowly and carefully and with respect for the reasons that society currently works the way it does. Obviously I don't agree with him because I'm a crazy socialist, but I can respect the desire for acting with care.
 
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Crisco

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Combined with the recent CO and NV polling, that's got to be devastating for the Romney camp. Obama has a very plausible path to victory now even if he loses FL/NC/VA/OH.
 
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pigeon

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Black Republican said:
IA POLL (NBC/WSJ/Marist): 34% report having already voted, support Obama 67% vs. 32% Romney
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That is just the nuts. So Obama's baked-in lead in Iowa is 10 points. With only 67% of the electorate left, if they all vote, Romney must win them by 18 points...so realistically, at least 20.
 
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RustyNails

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Black Republican said:
IA POLL (NBC/WSJ/Marist): 34% report having already voted, support Obama 67% vs. 32% Romney
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Damn. Even if IA starts showing Romney lead well into election night, it's still impossible for him to win with that early voter ratio. 1/3rd of the state already voted, and they voted for Obama 3:1. Insanity.

TIME TO UNSKEW THIS

Edit: goddamit beaten like a pollster at WSJ by an obama thug
 
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Aaron Strife

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Kusagari said:
They say that and then he'll still be down 4 or 5.
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People were freaking out when they said their Ohio poll would be the one Republicans were pushing - Obama was still leading by 4. This was around the time he was nearing 10 points ahead of Romney in the polling average.

I have to think it matters less what the horserace number is on election day if Obama's keeping up those huge early voting leads. Obama's strategy is less about changing peoples' minds as it is adding more voters to the mix. I wouldn't be surprised if that gap keeps widening, even as the election day populace is more conservative.
 
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PhoenixDark

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Gotta admit, it's not looking good for Romney. I really thought Iowa would be closer; he needs it to open up his path to an OH-less victory. PPP says their poll will be better for him but that won't change the lead Obama already has with early voters.
 
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Y2Kev

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Why aren't old people (aka Romney voters) voting early? They have nothing else to do. Is the Romney ground game so bad they can't pick them up and drive them?
 
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NihonTiger90

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codhand said:
Q7 What channel did you watch the debate on
tonight: CNN, C-Span, Fox News, MSNBC,
ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, PBS, or something
else?
CNN................................................................ 13%
C-Span............................................................ 1%
Fox News........................................................ 25%
MSNBC........................................................... 12%
ABC ................................................................ 15%
CBS ................................................................ 9%
Fox.................................................................. 2%
NBC................................................................ 15%
PBS ................................................................ 6%
Another channel.............................................. 0%
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Loudninja

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Aaron Strife said:
People were freaking out when they said their Ohio poll would be the one Republicans were pushing - Obama was still leading by 4. This was around the time he was nearing 10 points ahead of Romney in the polling average.

I have to think it matters less what the horserace number is on election day if Obama's keeping up those huge early voting leads. Obama's strategy is less about changing peoples' minds as it is adding more voters to the mix. I wouldn't be surprised if that gap keeps widening, even as the election day populace is more conservative.
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He is still in the lead while early voting is going on that's all that matters.
 
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Aaron Strife

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Y2Kev said:
Why aren't old people (aka Romney voters) voting early? They have nothing else to do. Is the Romney ground game so bad they can't pick them up and drive them?
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They're used to voting on election day.

I imagine this is why early voting periods aren't so widespread - people like to cling to tradition even when it doesn't make sense or inconveniences everyone else.

What, you work on election day? Guess you just don't care enough about democracy.

If Obama's strong margins in states like Iowa and Ohio hold, or if it gets him across the finish line in tougher states like FL or NC, I think you'll see many blue states adopt early voting - and red states resist it.

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He is still in the lead while early voting is going on that's all that matters.
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Precisely. Romney's only hope is that the election-day voters give him a huge surge. And time is running out for that to happen.
 
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Cloudy

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From NBC's writeup:

What especially seems to be helping Obama in Iowa is early voting. Thirty-four percent of likely voters in the poll say they have already cast their ballots, and the president is winning those people, 67 percent to 32 percent. Another 11 percent are planning to vote early, and he’s up among that group, 55 percent to 39 percent. But it’s reversed among Election Day voters: Romney is ahead, 54 percent to 39 percent.

In Wisconsin, just 15 percent say they have already voted or plan to vote early, and Obama leads among this group, 64 percent to 35 percent. Yet it’s even among Election Day voters, with Obama getting 48 percent and Romney at 47 percent.
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If Obama wins by a narrow margin, folks might look back at Romney's strategy to carpet bomb the swing states in the final 3 weeks as a mistake. Early voting started in late September and early October in several key states
 
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Manmademan

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Y2Kev said:
Why aren't old people (aka Romney voters) voting early? They have nothing else to do. Is the Romney ground game so bad they can't pick them up and drive them?
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If early voting is a recent thing, I could see older voters just sticking to their established habits and going when they usually do. Besides, retirees can go at 11 in the morning or 2 in the afternoon and miss the pre work and post work lines and madness entirely
 
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CaptainSchwann

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Polls are pretty much lining up with what I thought. Romney didn't pick up shit after the first debate. Obama just lost pissed off democrats, which after the 2nd debate he picked back up.
 
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