eBay Huckster
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my first thread ever and it's gotten a dedicated incognito troll post
i am touched
PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.
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my first thread ever and it's gotten a dedicated incognito troll post
i am touched
hope none of the poli-gaf regulars blow my spot up...
cartoon_soldier
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I was surprised that the Oct. surprise did not drop!
IrishNinja
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yup - there's a metaphor here for "reaching across the aisle" in an ideological deadlock; a strong false dichotomy gives the illusion that the answer must be somewhere in the middle/compromise, even when said dichotomy, by nature, forces every choice to be binary.
just like it's not about getting things done in congress, but wins/losses for your side - it's not about journalism here, it's about maximizing that viewership net. you're playing a game where others make the rules for you, so all you do is lose. i obviously can't empathize here, in either example.
What's really stupid is by sticking to the middle they alienate both sides. If CNN keeps on this road they'll have zero audience.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Oh he was definitely being quippy, it probably tested well. He probably saw the play that big bird, binders of women, etc got and tried to incorporate as many buzzy phrases as possible. It was distracting to me, but I am obviously not who he was fishing for.
They'll still be the network of choice for hospitals and airports. They're aiming for an inoffensive niche. Nobody's going to like them, but anybody who throws things at the screen is clearly an extreme partisan who is not to be trusted.
Edit: They also want to be the channel people who don't typically watch the news turn to for debates and for election night coverage and the like. They can't afford to start moving towards Fox or MSNBC because nobody actually wants to watch Fox-lite. You either want that sort of thing or you don't.
Trump claims he has something on Obama that he will release either this week or next week. Looking forward to it haha. If it's something ridiculous then the last couple weeks of the election may turn back to what has gone on throughout this whole campaign and most of Obama's presidency, which has been the crazy right being crazy.
CaptainSchwann
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Odd note: The more I see her attack politicians the more attractive she seems.
EatinOlives
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Trump is being just his little attention whore self. It'll be nothing, of course. He's still salty Obama beat his ass when Trump was throwing his hat into the ring with the idiotic birther issue. Again.
That's not saying much. She is beautiful
CaptainSchwann
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Oh of course. Just even more so.
I would argue that, right now, MSNBC is the closest thing to that ideal channel this side of Al-Jazeera English (which is the best network). Sure, MSNBC is obviously pro-Democrats and left leaning as hell, but they still call shit out that they don't like from the left. And, you know, reality has a liberal bias and all that.
speculawyer
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DONALD TRUMP:
I am saying I want to see the birth certificate. Its very simple. I want to see the birth certificate. How come his own family doesnt know which hospital he was born in? How come forget about birth certificates. Lets say theres no birth certificate. How come in the hospital itself, okay? This is one of the in the hospital itself, theres no records of his birth. In other words, it doesnt say how much they paid, where is the doctor, heres your room bill. You know, all the
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
Youve been privy to all of this to know this?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what theyre talking.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You have people now out there searching I mean, in Hawaii?
DONALD TRUMP:
Absolutely. And they cannot believe what theyre finding. And Im serious.
Sometimes Nate does crack me up.
"Obviously all this data was gathered in different ways and from different groups and can't really be compared directly. But I added them all up anyway and here's what I got."
Nate thinks that Obama's unlikely to get a big bounce from this, but even a small bounce is a big deal.
I'm not sure -- it was pretty bad for Romney, and in the specific way that the first debate was bad for Obama -- even his supporters are angry with him for failing to represent them and making them look dumb for backing him. I still don't think we'll see huge swings, because the big move after the first debate really wasn't debate-related, but I think we might see something. And just a couple of points means a big fat landslide of EVs.
Here's hoping somebody was watching.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...g-debate-bounce-but-a-small-one-could-matter/
la dama gris said:
"Obviously all this data was gathered in different ways and from different groups and can't really be compared directly. But I added them all up anyway and here's what I got."
Nate thinks that Obama's unlikely to get a big bounce from this, but even a small bounce is a big deal.
I'm not sure -- it was pretty bad for Romney, and in the specific way that the first debate was bad for Obama -- even his supporters are angry with him for failing to represent them and making them look dumb for backing him. I still don't think we'll see huge swings, because the big move after the first debate really wasn't debate-related, but I think we might see something. And just a couple of points means a big fat landslide of EVs.
Here's hoping somebody was watching.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...g-debate-bounce-but-a-small-one-could-matter/
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Unless they have been his positions from the very beginning....
I would love for some tape to leak showing Romney talking to friends or family saying "after the primaries, I can go back to all that other stuff I used to say." that would crack me up more than anything.
Looks like Dax roped a few in the debate thread, but incognito's reputation and tag precedes him.
threetri333
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Tell me Neogaf, which Candidate gets Massachusetts?
Edit: You would think Massachusetts would vote for their own ex Governor?
Edit: You would think Massachusetts would vote for their own ex Governor?
The one thing I'm hoping that comes out of this is a more solidified lead in Virginia. If that happens, it'll make Nov. 6th a lot easier to watch.
Obama.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Synth_floyd
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Trump is just pandering to birthers and other people who are scared of a black man being president. What an asshole.
Gucci Messiah
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Obama easily
Soledad is the only thing worth a damn on that channel. David Gregory is a useless tool, as is Wolf Blitzer. I'm not sure which of the two of them is worse.
PhoenixDark
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The right wing mental breakdown over bayonets is such a snap shot of how they operate. Everyone will have heard about the "zinger" or seen it by this time tomorrow, but that hasn't stopped the far right from attempting to spin it as Obama disrespecting the military. It's such a weak, stupid attack that is so easily combated.
Also, when Romeny was manhandling to Obama in the first debate, what was the right's take? Romney is strong, decisive, made Obama look like a child (and compared him to his own children), etc. Obama has fought back in the final two debates and the spin is suddenly that Obama is angry, snarky, not serious, demeaning, condescending, etc. Good luck with that shit.
I have nothing to complain about tonight. I was clearly wrong about Obama's debate skills. He handled his business in the second debate, and totally controlled tonight's debate.
Also, when Romeny was manhandling to Obama in the first debate, what was the right's take? Romney is strong, decisive, made Obama look like a child (and compared him to his own children), etc. Obama has fought back in the final two debates and the spin is suddenly that Obama is angry, snarky, not serious, demeaning, condescending, etc. Good luck with that shit.
I have nothing to complain about tonight. I was clearly wrong about Obama's debate skills. He handled his business in the second debate, and totally controlled tonight's debate.
Gregory is much worse because he turned Tim Russert's show into a worthless piece of shit.
He is essentially Jay Leno to Russert's Johnny Carson.
speculawyer
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Seriously. Hit everyone on everything. Ask Romney folks on getting their budget to add up. Ask Obama folks about Solyndra. That's how we learn the most.
303 evs may not seem so out of reach if this tips anyone over the edge.
this is the best finish obama could have hoped for. now it's just two weeks to go and hopefully things work out in his favor and stop sliding to a fucking tie.
Eh, Russert is certainly better than Gregory, but I never had the reverence for him that some do. He seemed to hammer people on some of the most useless things and let them go on things he should've hammered them on.
I feel like Soledad watched the newsroom and decided she wanted to be like them, which is good, because we need more fucking journalists who will call out bullshit.
Angry Fork
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Anyone know how Elizabeth Warren is doing and if she has a strong chance to win? How about other democrats that are strong on regulation, universal healthcare etc. Are there any others or are they all center-right assholes?
Is there anyone like Bernie Sanders or Kucinich running for house/senate?
Is there anyone like Bernie Sanders or Kucinich running for house/senate?
speculawyer
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Dick Gregory >>>>> David Gregory
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Americans want a team to root for, it would never work. Unfortunately...
cartoon_soldier
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Warren is ahead in most polls by a decent margin.
Warren's got it in the bag now, I think. Brown tanked it.
Baldwin is a strong universal healthcare candidate here in Wisconsin, and she seems to have a consistent, solid 4-5 point lead over Thompson.
Unless she sacrifices a child on stage in her last debate, she's going to win. Brown's campaign is pretty much done.
Scott Brown has collapsed and Warren is pretty much near guaranteed to win at this point. Their debates really hurt Brown.
Ignatz Mouse
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I must be tone deaf.
I thought Obama won but it didn't seem like it was that decisive.
Of course, I support Obama so I mentally adjust my rating against him a bit to account for my own bias.
Anyway, happy the snap polls all agree with me that he won.
I thought Obama won but it didn't seem like it was that decisive.
Of course, I support Obama so I mentally adjust my rating against him a bit to account for my own bias.
Anyway, happy the snap polls all agree with me that he won.
Of course it was decisive. Even his opponent thought he had good ideas.
Both Warren and Baldwin are gonna win. It's glorious.
Ignatz Mouse
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Yeah, I guess Mitt mostly played "me too!" and that hurt him.
As I said, I'm just a terrible judge.
I do like seeing Obama own that smug twerp though!
eBay Huckster
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Just wait until 1 PM.
The Librarian
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Yeah. If Obama loses, those two winning will soften the blow.
Angry Fork
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Nice I'm glad Warren is ahead, we really need to move the country back to the left.
I get depressed reading Dennis Kucinich political positions just because so many of them are 100% common sense and the kind of progressive push I'd love to support but nobody else seems to be like that. So many other democrats are too quiet/afraid of being called socialist or vote along republican lines and it's infuriating.
I get depressed reading Dennis Kucinich political positions just because so many of them are 100% common sense and the kind of progressive push I'd love to support but nobody else seems to be like that. So many other democrats are too quiet/afraid of being called socialist or vote along republican lines and it's infuriating.
IrishNinja
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ahaha, a mod just took the bait..shit's gettin real!
young tender sayin' Dax would ya be my man
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