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Clevinger

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I just got an ad on youtube set in a 2030's history class in China. The teacher is describing the fall of nations, from Rome to America. See, nations always fall by betraying their traditions (shows picture of lincoln). America fell because it tried to spend and tax its way out of a recession and changed its health care system too much. Now America works for us! (bunch of Chinese students laugh as they fiddle with futuristic tablets).
 
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gkryhewy

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Clevinger said:
I just got an ad on youtube set in a 2030's history class in China. The teacher is describing the fall of nations, from Rome to America. See, nations always fall by betraying their traditions (shows picture of lincoln). America fell because it tried to spend and tax its way out of a recession and changed its health care system too much. (bunch of Chinese students laugh as they fiddle with futuristic tablets).
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They've been airing this on TV too. It's back from the dead (originally from 2010 or so).
 
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Souldriver

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I'd be so delighted if the last debate causes a little Obama bounce across all polls. Would take some uncertainty away.

But then again, such a bounce probably won't be substantial, or last long.

Just two more weeks.
 
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Souldriver said:
I'd be so delighted if the last debate causes a little Obama bounce across all polls. Would take some uncertainty away.

But then again, such a bounce probably won't be substantial, or last long.

Just two more weeks.
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I can't imagine the undecideds are very substantial by the 3rd debate. By this point, we're talking about a tiny sliver of voters, so I don't really see this debate as a game changer of any kind.
We're basically in polling hell from now until E-day.
 
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Keio

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thefro

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teruterubozu said:
I can't imagine the undecideds are very substantial by the 3rd debate. By this point, we're talking about a tiny sliver of voters, so I don't really see this debate as a game changer of any kind.
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You'll see movement in the LV model changing more than undecideds at this point (who will probably break 60/40 at best towards someone).
 
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Effect

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Officerrob said:
John McCain is a sad old man
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Turned on Morning Joe this morning while dressing and turned the channel as soon as I saw McCain. Ugh. The man is still very bitter. It's all over his face and you can just hear it in his voice whenever he talks about Obama or anything he's done. Joe is such a waste of time. It's very telling how different the show is when he isn't on and Mika is the primary host. Such a damn waste. MSNBC could be doing so much more with it's morning time slot instead of this.

Edit: Yeah I don't buy Obama losing points with Dems. Makes no sense. Yes to him gaining points with republicans because that has happen before because republicans go overboard and scare the shit out of some of their own people.
 
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Y2Kev

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The party numbers look wrong, the whites numbers maybe a little severe, and Latinos not severe enough.
 
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gkryhewy

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Effect said:
Turned on Morning Joe this morning while dressing and turned the channel as soon as I saw McCain. Ugh. The man is still very bitter. It's all over his face. Joe is such a waste of time. It's very telling how different the show is when he isn't on and Mika is the primary host. Such a damn waste. MSNBC could be doing so much more with it's morning time slot instead of this.
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Joe is pretty solid when he's not within a month of an election.
 
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From the debate thread:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/imag...servicepoll_464_romney_embargoed_23102012.gif

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omgimaninja

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Back in 2008 I took daily screenshots of 538's State-by-State Probability chart to scroll through them and see the changes during the election.

Has anybody taken screenshots of his 2012 dynamic map over the course of the election? All I can view historically are the line graphs for EV/% chance of winning.
 
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Officerrob

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cartoon_soldier said:
All indications are that Obama campaign has given up on NC. They will still do the GOTV stuff, but no campaign appearances or new TV ads.
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Except for the fact that the new Obama ad has been confirmed to be going up in North Carolina

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/23/obama-makes-pitch-in-new-ad/

As for the new ad, the campaign said the commercial will run in the battleground states of New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nevada, and Colorado.
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Y2Kev

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Hmmm. Do we know what obama's schedule is for the next two weeks? Have to imagine he'll be in Ohio a lot.
 
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electricpirate

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cartoon_soldier said:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82739.html?hp=t1_3

Battleground states down to 7



Obama given up on NC. He will lose too much of the Dem vote to Republicans there.

Romney campaign might have mostly given up on NV it seems.

So...it again all comes down to...Ohio Ohio Ohio
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?? Add buys haven't stopped in NC, but Obama hasn't visited it, it's obviously not high on his priority list, and it's pretty low on the tipping point state lists.

Ohio is key, but going into the final 2 weeks with obama having a 2 point lead in the polls and a ground game that is 5x as large in the state makes me pretty damn confident.
 
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RustyNails

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Donald J. Trump -- Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden. #debate

Scary Beans ‏-- Stop congratulating The Navy Seals for killing Bin Laden. Some guns and also some bullets killed Bin Laden. #debate
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Manmademan

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electricpirate said:
?? Add buys haven't stopped in NC, but Obama hasn't visited it, it's obviously not high on his priority list, and it's pretty low on the tipping point state lists.

Ohio is key, but going into the final 2 weeks with obama having a 2 point lead in the polls and a ground game that is 5x as large in the state makes me pretty damn confident.
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true, but it IS 15 electoral votes, within the margin of error, and having NC on top of Ohio turns Romneys path from "implausible" to "impossible."

it's worth the investment.
 
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i mean, we're very potentially putting the next 4, if not 8 years up to Ohio right now

that is some arbitrary shit right there, can we please just vote the logical way (1 person, 1 vote)
 
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ISOM

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Byakuya769 said:
Loving the turn from "Obama got fucked up!" (1st debate) to "Wow, Obama was so rude" (3rd debate). Fucking clowns.
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lol seriously and it wasn't like obama was interrupting Romney like Romney did in the first debate, infact he was actually rude to obama in this debate too. I hate to say that there is subconcious racism or prejudice going on in the media but I just can't figure out what it is that people don't want to call out romney but are willing put it to on obama for lesser acts of aggression.

I will be so glad when obama has another 4 years against all this bullshit.
 
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