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PoliGAF 2012 |OT4|: Your job is not to worry about 47% of these posts.
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I thought the Sesame Workshop requested it be taken down?
I suspect it'll cost them in the way they'd least like it to. Now that the cover's blown, if Romney tries to attack Obama on Libya at the foreign policy debate, Obama can say "that's a sensitive national security matter, which House Republicans have already screwed up by politicizing it and revealing CIA operations to those who were seek to harm us."`
ErasureAcer
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Obama's not gonna let Big Bird commit suicide.
This is actually pretty funny. Jimmy Fallon does Mr. Romney's Neighborhood:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fallon-mocks-romney-with-mister-romneys-neighborhood-pbs-spoof/
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fallon-mocks-romney-with-mister-romneys-neighborhood-pbs-spoof/
Half and half
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Yep, they gave Obama some ways to deflect the criticism on this. Make Republicans look like the weak ones on National Security.
If Obama calls the Republicans on outing the CIA in Libya, they can just point to Valerie Plame and say nothing went wrong when that happened.
Happy about that, but the lead needs to be waaaay bigger imo. Penn. is absolutely critical.
Happy about that, but the lead needs to be waaaay bigger imo. Penn. is absolutely critical.
...+8 is massive.
not sure if you're doing a 'thing' but i don't think that'd work.
RustyNails
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Oblivion, why have secrets at all?
Aaron Strife
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Yeah, that's pretty much where it was pre-debate. I'd call it good. He was +7 in Michigan too in a recent poll there, GOP kept insisting they were tossups but they clearly aren't.
I feel like he won't use it as a point of attack against Romney specifically, but he could just be like "my strategy is one of patience and level-headedness, the GOP's reckless strategy just recently busted the CIA's involvement in Libya" to buffer his own argument. However, the foreign policy debate will almost certainly be Obama's best if he brings his A game. His foreign policy record has been aces.Averon said:
PhoenixDark
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I'm not sure Obama would play politics with the CIA in public. That's not to say any condemnation would be playing politics, but it's probably not a line of attack that would be healthy. Issa clearly knew Chaffetz fucked up and tried to put out the fire but it was too late.
The Plame outing was clearly one of spite, and unpatriotic to the core. I think Chaffetz thought he was doing the right thing, but it was basically like accidentally revealing the identity of Batman
The Plame outing was clearly one of spite, and unpatriotic to the core. I think Chaffetz thought he was doing the right thing, but it was basically like accidentally revealing the identity of Batman
There are two readings of Chaffetz's words, from my angle. Either a) he was trying to catch the State Department out and suggest that they were violating confidentiality, in which case he completely screwed it up, or b) he is literally a moron.
I'm honestly not sure which one.
The guy is a freaking clown trying to make a name for himself
RustyNails
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He's a moron. Issa on the other hand, was playing political football with a sensitive topic.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
That was actually really well done, basically SNL quality, but on a late night daily TV show.
I lived in MN when he got elected. His senate run was a really cool thing to see. He visited my mom's workplace (non-profit semi-govt funded heating and fuel assistance agency) and he seemed like a really decent guy. Too bad what happened :/
ErasureAcer
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Just watching this now. This crowd isn't letting Brown sling mud. The moderator is a bit too anal about time.
PhoenixDark
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I've been hard on Warren but as I watch this debate I can't help but be impressed at how easily she frames liberal policy/ideology in simple terms. If Obama could do this, the election would pretty much be over.
Also, the moderator is actually doing his job ensuring both candidates don't railroad the rules. Although I imagine controlling a president and presidential candidate is a lot harder than controlling a senator and professor/advocate.
Also, the moderator is actually doing his job ensuring both candidates don't railroad the rules. Although I imagine controlling a president and presidential candidate is a lot harder than controlling a senator and professor/advocate.
Damn. Letterman is basically an anti-Romney advertisement every night at this point. He was just railing on him for refusing to show-up for Nickelodeon's election event, saying, "Sorry kids.. Mitt's too busy hiding his Caymans money and driving around with the dog on his car roof!"
Then, the Top 10 was "Top Ten Things Kids Would Ask Mitt Romney," where he once again went after him about hiding Ryan, picking on PBS when it comprises a tiny percent of the budget, dancing ponies, etc etc. Hilarious.
And every night he says, "If Mitt won't come on my show - don't vote for him! Don't!"
Then, the Top 10 was "Top Ten Things Kids Would Ask Mitt Romney," where he once again went after him about hiding Ryan, picking on PBS when it comprises a tiny percent of the budget, dancing ponies, etc etc. Hilarious.
And every night he says, "If Mitt won't come on my show - don't vote for him! Don't!"
ryutaro's mama
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Obama is locked in.
That exchange when Diane Sawyer asked him if he handed Romney the election off that bad performance was a Rock solid answer.
That exchange when Diane Sawyer asked him if he handed Romney the election off that bad performance was a Rock solid answer.
ErasureAcer
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I remember he came back from Washington D.C. one time and my mom/me and people from her church met him at the terminal(when that was allowed)...and played on kazoos when the Saints Come Marching In. Don't know exactly what it was for but it was a gay/lesbian focused church so something dealing with equality issues I assume.
Pretty good for Obama. He is competitive with Romney in VA and FL and solid lead in OH.
Black Mamba
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Another +4 for Obama in ohio.
+1 isn't enough for Romney in the other 2.
Good for Obama in that he's still ahead in Ohio by a large margin, but of course good for Romney in that everything tightened.
You assume Romney becomes a not-changing positions every other day guy.
You also assume Romney will have nothing go wrong for him during the next month while assuming the only one who can mess up is Obama.
Your assumptions are more telling then anything else, and I'm dismissive of Romney because he already lost his bump in a matter of days. Losing PA by 8 pts? Lol..he cannot afford to lose OH, FL, or PA and with his VP pick it's all an up hill battle for him. Compounded with the 47% video, and every other blunder Romney has coming his way. I really believe Obama has an amazing shot at relelection.
I'm also not worried because I help out Obama's campaign in my region and have been for awhile now. I'm doing all I can to ensure his reelection.
::edit:: down 6 points already in OH? Well outside margin of error. Makes me a happy guy! Gotta knock on some doors this weekend!
RustyNails
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Ohio is still holding. Goddamn, that's become one hell of a fortress.
Disappointed at VA numbers though. I think everyone got FL right lol.
PhoenixDark
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Virginia is tied but that might be good news for Obama due to Virgil Goode being on the ballot. And of course if the Hispanic vote increases that would be another benefit
RustyNails
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Obama is +1 in FL.
Seems like Obama weathered the storm. Biden needs to clean up his mess tomorrow
Half and half
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You and the others pitching in are good people. Thumbs up!
cartoon_soldier
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Good OH good.
Damn at VA numbers, at one point that looked like it was right there with OH for Obama.
Now we need some post debate IA polls
Still want to see more substantive things from Obama campaign to change narrative. New attack lines, interviews, OTR, whatever.
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Aaron Strife
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O-hayoooooo
If Virginia and Florida are more or less tied, his organizational advantage will let him win those states.
Quinnipiac is coming out with their own Virginia poll tomorrow. Good news for Obama if it's closer to PPP's +3 result.
Romney can still win without Ohio, but it'd be a long night.
If Virginia and Florida are more or less tied, his organizational advantage will let him win those states.
Quinnipiac is coming out with their own Virginia poll tomorrow. Good news for Obama if it's closer to PPP's +3 result.
Romney can still win without Ohio, but it'd be a long night.
ryutaro's mama
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Kobe Obama shot 6/29 on a night when Romney shot 16/18.
What is the likelihood of both those things happening again?
Sirpopopop
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He means Kagan.
My mistake. Kagan. Damn it, only two women and I mix them up.
ErasureAcer
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I said it at the first MA debate and now this one, Elizabeth Warren's voice is so soothing.
Ohio numbers are great.
Ohio numbers are great.
Romney is doing better in polls, but the bounce has leveled off going by Rasmussen and Gallup. While these polls, especially Rasmussen, lean slightly Republican, they have better sample sizes and consistency then these random +5 polls in Romney's favor.
With Ohio nearly locked in, it looks like Obama has this. I expect that we'll see way better debate performance and a clean victory, but America might surprise me.
With Ohio nearly locked in, it looks like Obama has this. I expect that we'll see way better debate performance and a clean victory, but America might surprise me.
Black Mamba
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pains of watching laker scrubs while reading poli-gaf. Though I look at +1 for Obama or Romney about the same. Still, Romney needed to be +2 in both IMO with his bounce.
Looking at Ohio internals right now. This is big: 35% voted early. Obama is up 2 in those who have yet to vote but up 4 overall. To do that, he must be up 8 or more in early voters.
Ohio is +6 not 4. My bad. Obama's 51 unchanged (must like the 52 to 51 in the other one). Romney up 2 is the only difference.
Only 2% claim they "might vote differently." - huge for Obama.
Also over 90% made up their minds before the debate.
Basically, the two Ohio polls today are saying Romney shored up a tiny part of his base but Obama's support is unphased and people have made up their mind.
If this is true, Ohio is going to be VERY hard to flip for Romney.
That 35% includes absentees. This is strictly early voting.
RustyNails
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You have no idea how much I respect you. Keep up the good work!
ErasureAcer
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Someone else today on GAF said Ohio early voting was Obama 59. Romney 39. With 11% in.
MasterShotgun
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Wow Ohio. Please hold strong for another month.
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