The Librarian
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"Except when I don't like it."
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"Except when I don't like it."
Yet you just invalidated a portion of the VRA because you think the south isn't racist anymore.
Welp.
Black Mamba
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From DOMA:
Add this to the 14th amendment violation of DOMA, looks to me Kennedy just wrote that banning same-sex marriage will be invalid the next time the case comes up, this time with actual standing.
The 9th Circuit out here has 2 such cases, in particular one from Nevada in which Nevada is actively defending the law and has been held up pending today's prop 8 ruling. The 9th will rule on that (I'm guessing overturn it) and when Nevada appeals for cert, if the Court takes it I think it's done.
I always held the position that whenever the SCOTUS takes up this case it will overturn the laws on 14th ground nationwide. I never thought they'd take it up this year or that there would be a standing out to punt down the road, but I still believe the next time they take it up and can rule on it, it's over for the anti-gay marriage movement. Hopefully, this will happen within the next 2 years.
He is the biggest hypocrite on the Court. He ignores precedence more than anyone else and only votes how he wants things to be. Thomas may be stuck in the 1850s but at least he's more logically consistent.
Scalia can often be hilarious but dude is legally bankrupt. He should never have gotten the praise for being logically consistent and true to certain legal values.
Add this to the 14th amendment violation of DOMA, looks to me Kennedy just wrote that banning same-sex marriage will be invalid the next time the case comes up, this time with actual standing.
The 9th Circuit out here has 2 such cases, in particular one from Nevada in which Nevada is actively defending the law and has been held up pending today's prop 8 ruling. The 9th will rule on that (I'm guessing overturn it) and when Nevada appeals for cert, if the Court takes it I think it's done.
I always held the position that whenever the SCOTUS takes up this case it will overturn the laws on 14th ground nationwide. I never thought they'd take it up this year or that there would be a standing out to punt down the road, but I still believe the next time they take it up and can rule on it, it's over for the anti-gay marriage movement. Hopefully, this will happen within the next 2 years.
He is the biggest hypocrite on the Court. He ignores precedence more than anyone else and only votes how he wants things to be. Thomas may be stuck in the 1850s but at least he's more logically consistent.
Scalia can often be hilarious but dude is legally bankrupt. He should never have gotten the praise for being logically consistent and true to certain legal values.
I am Michael Bolton
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Ted Cruz said that he will block all state dept nominees until Obama chooses inspector general to look into matters such as Benghazi.
Shadow Hog
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So does the DOMA repeal mean that now all of America is a genderless dystopia? 
lol
There should be a rule that nominations/confirmations need to be considered consecutively. In other words, can't confirm anyone until every position nominated before has also been considered for confirmation.
Black Mamba
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Ive never said it came out of the office of the President or his campaign. What Ive said is, it comes out of Washington.
Darell "Clown Shoes" Issa on the new revelations about the IRS stuff.
Darell "Clown Shoes" Issa on the new revelations about the IRS stuff.
I really wish Issa would get tarred and feathered by the press for wasting all this time trying to manufacture a scandal out of nothing. But alas that's asking too much.
rocketknight
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So does the DOMA repeal mean that now all of America is a genderless dystopia?
lol
Get your shotguns ready to protect your straight marriages, people. The attack is coming any day now!
PhoenixDark
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Doesn't this apply to opponents of DOMA too? The law was passed by congress and overturned by the SC, just as the VRA was passed by congress and partially overturned by the SC.
Seems to me both sides are being hypocritical.
empty vessel
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No, not even close, because the legal reasoning isn't remotely similar. DOMA is patently unconstitutional--Congress doesn't have the power to do it. Congress clearly had the power to enact the VRA, and the SCOTUS never contested that. The SCOTUS just said that it exercised its legitimate power irrationally when it reauthorized the VRA. That is an extreme claim, very rarely made by the SCOTUS, and usually anathema to Scalia and conservatives who think that unelected judges should never substitute their judgment for the legislature.
This is (again) what I meant when I said that lay persons and non-constitutional lawyers will be unable to perceive the radical nature of the VRA decision. (That's not a criticism, mind you. It's a fact about the world that people with expertise will see what those who lack it do not.)
That's enough out of you, young man.
ClassyPenguin
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Yeah man. Totally agree. Like, where does SCOTUS get off on reviewing laws passed by Congress?
LBJ HBO mini-series. Write it and they will come.
Black Mamba
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Scalia endorsed the Supreme Court claiming Congress cannot interpret data how it so pleases.
Nothing of the sort happened today. Scalia is claiming a massive intrusion because there was no standing in the case, but Kennedy ripped that argument apart quite easily.
The Librarian
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It's something I'm very much going to dread.
There are plenty of shows that film in NYC so there's also that, though I think most of the agents and stuff live in LA...
You and me, LBJ miniseries. I can hear the awards coming our way now.
Well, don't think that you can just come over here and have sex with a producer and have your project green lit right away. Cause it doesn't work like that.
I should know, I've tried that. To tragic, and sometimes hilarious results.
Frank the Great
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Not really. DOMA was a clear violation of EP and probably more provisions in the Constitution. The VRA decision didn't cite one constitutional provision that the law violated, the Justices just believed the Section 4 formula wasn't needed anymore based on their own warped views of reality.
The Librarian
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Guys, a mini-series wouldn't be long enough.
Well, damn. Guess I have to mark that off my list of "Ways to become a TV writer."
polyh3dron
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Can we impeach Darrell Issa?
Dude manufactured the Fast & Furious scandal and now the Obama IRS scandal. He's hurting the country with this bullshit.
Dude manufactured the Fast & Furious scandal and now the Obama IRS scandal. He's hurting the country with this bullshit.
No no, you don't do it about everything. That's too big. maybe not even a whole year. Like say I wanted to do a JFK miniseries, I'd do it on the Cuba missile thing. 13 days, maybe half as many episodes.
The Librarian
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Oh, I wasn't talking about everything either. I just don't think a mini-series would be the best format. There's plenty to chew on between the end of 1961 and February of 1966.
Can I get out of college now to
hopefully
That makes even less sense to me.
speculawyer
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I noticed his careful phrasing the very day he said it. The clever Republicans have learned that they don't have to lie . . . they merely have to suggest lies and their dumb rump base will make the lies themselves.
Dick Cheney had this great one:
If were successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so its not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that its not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11.
That is how to deceive your idiot base.
Black Mamba
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Except in this case he did lie.
This was a targeting of the presidents political enemies, effectively, and lies [sic] about it during the election year so that it wasnt discovered until afterwards.
If the judges were up for election, their opinions would change to make sure they are re-elected. it would also mean campaigning an thus mean receiving donations to run for the position. This would be a very big problem.
The idea is that the SCOTUS is impartial to outside influence. I think this is largely true. That doesn't mean it isn't partisan.
I'd much rather have justices vote on their honest beliefs about the case rather than what will get them elected. Would Brown v. Board have been possible at the time? the CRA? VRA?
Aaron Strife
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70 votes looks elusive on immigration
Oh no! Now it might just pass! Sad day for America.
What the fuck is the difference between getting 69 and 70 votes? Who in the House is going to think "Gee, I thought I could support this, but if it only got one more vote in the Senate."
Oh no! Now it might just pass! Sad day for America.
What the fuck is the difference between getting 69 and 70 votes? Who in the House is going to think "Gee, I thought I could support this, but if it only got one more vote in the Senate."
Black Mamba
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/26/tammy-duckworth-strong-castle_n_3504531.html
DAAAAAAAAAAAMN! Ice cold, Tammy. Ice fucking cold.
The video is even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr1kwC0je1Y
Aaron Strife
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Holy shit, she neutered him.
Avon Barksdale
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Is S.E. Cupp still with MSNBC? I just saw her on CNN a few minutes ago.
Update: She's joining the reboot of Crossfire.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...es-and-stephanie-cutter-for-crossfire_b185694
Update: She's joining the reboot of Crossfire.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...es-and-stephanie-cutter-for-crossfire_b185694
PhoenixDark
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Damn, amazing. I noticed Issa sent the video to his twitter followers, definitely cool to see both parties agreeing on something.
The IRS was involved
Aaron Strife
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ElectricThunder
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Why in god's name would CNN be rebooting, of all things, Crossfire?! Are we to believe it will turn over a new leaf in the years since Stewart tore them apart as the network spiraled further into madness outside of signing on Bourdain to do his thing?
To be fair, they took the original Crossfire and translated to all their news programs. The concept of just two sides of every single argument has permeated both CNN and MSNBC. It was ahead of its time.
Damn lmao
That is the next logical step and every bit as fair as gay and straight marriage.
Aaron Strife
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They should do one show where the left and right positions are hilariously strawmanned by incompetent hacks, and then they'll have a third, centrist guy who's like "Can't you see you're both wrong, and the truth is always conveniently in the middle?" regardless of how far one way or the other they are.
They could call it "South Park"
NYCmetsfan
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That's the way it used to be the last few years. The discussion panel (with no real concern for partisan makeup but rather expertise) seems to be taking over, especially on MSNBC.
You forgot being completely lost on all issues involving science.
And on Fox it's the other way, no concern for partisan makeup or expertise.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Or facts.
Aaron Strife
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hurr manbearpig
Black Mamba
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TAKE THE POWER BACK!
Avon Barksdale
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Crossfire needs a libertarian goof on the panel.
Aaron Strife
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We'll all be better off once white men have equal rights as everyone else.
TAKE THE POWER BACK!
I mean right now they're privileged, so really that's just bringing everyone else up.
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