PhoenixDark
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Nice speech. Now if he'd rescind the Syrian rebel weapons I'd be a completely happy dude.
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Aaron Strife
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What happened to Dax and TacticalFox?
Seriously it better not have been something on gaming.
Seriously it better not have been something on gaming.
Dax'll be back on Friday at some point, Fox I have no idea
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lol, I literally said "Oh my" as I read it, then scrolled down and saw...
TF will be back in two weeks.
Bill O'Reilly thread.
:/
As for Dax, I have no clue about her.
empty vessel
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I suspect Fox got hit for expressing outrage at people implying black people are inferior and inherently criminal.
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I just saw his post. I wouldn't have framed my thoughts that way but I've noticed not only on GAF but in my daily life with the trayvon verdict a lot of latent racism becoming more vocalized. I can only think its white existential angst, a fear of not being the dominate force. GAF has been pretty tolerant though with obviously a few exceptions.
empty vessel
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No doubt about it, the racists are emboldened here and everywhere.
That's what got him? It wasn't that bad, hope it wasn't a long one.
Look outside the obvious threads and you see a ton of small-c conservatism on GAF.
Black Mamba
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Hey PD, remember you complained about Obamacare cutting work hours. So, about that...
Whoops! I'm sure this will stop the GOP talking point.
Regarding Obama's speech, which I haven't heard/read but saw some stuff tweeted out, about damn time he called out the GOP for the ignorance and obstructionism the way I've seen quoted.
Most importantly, he called them out for having no ideas, something I've been arguing about on Poli-GAF for a year and the reason I believed they'd lose the 2012 election.
"If you have better ideas ... stop taking meaningless repeal votes and share your concrete ideas with the country."
"You can't just be against something—you've got to be for something."
More of this, please.
One last note, here is what the GOP tweeted out in response to Obama's economic plan to add jobs: http://majorityleader.gov/blog/2013...row-jobs-and-strengthen-the-middle-class.html
How many jobs does this plan add in the next year, best case scenario? 200k? 400k if we're being generous? How is this a plan at all? We've got million of people who are looking for work and their response is a jobs plan that doesn't even add 500k jobs in the near term? What fucking clowns.
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/cepr-blog/is-the-affordable-care-act-a-hidden-jobs-killerAn analysis of data from the Current Population Survey shows that only a small number (0.6 percent of the workforce) of workers report working just below the 30 hour cutoff in the range of 26-29 hours per week. Furthermore, the number of workers who fall in this category was actually lower in 2013 than in 2012, the year before the sanctions would have applied. This suggests that employers do not appear to be changing hours in large numbers in response to the sanctions in the ACA.
There have been numerous accounts of employers claiming to reduce employment or adjust hours in order to avoid the obligations of the ACA.
If this is the case, we should have first begun to see evidence of the impact of ACA in January of 2013, since under the original law employment in 2013 would serve as the basis for assessing penalties in 2014.
The Obama administration announced on July 2, 2013 that they would not enforce sanctions in 2014 based on 2013 employment, but employers would not have known that sanctions would not be enforced prior to this date. Therefore we can assume that they would have behaved as though they expect to be subject to the sanctions and acted accordingly.
Reducing average hours of work below 30 per week, could plausibly have an impact on employment patterns, but the data do not indicate that this is happening.
Several large employers have claimed that they would deliberately keep workers’ hours below 30 hours per week in order to avoid having them count toward the number for whom they would have a $2,000 penalty.
Some surveys of small businesses also report that employers intend to reduce workers’ hours to avoid the penalty, even they are not bound by the law.
Fortunately, it is possible to test whether employers are actually reducing hours below the 30-hour threshold.
The Current Population Survey (CPS) provides monthly data on workers usual weekly hours. We used the CPS to compare the first four months of 2013 with the first four months of 2012.
We looked at the numbers and percent of workers who reported working 26-29 hours a week.
We considered this range a reasonable cutoff for an ACA effect. Presumably if an employer would have a worker put in more than 30 hours a week in the absence of ACA penalties, they would require a worker to put in close to, but less than, 30 hours in order to avoid the penalties.
There are two points that are striking. First, a very small share of the workforce falls into this group.
Well under 1 million workers, roughly 0.6 percent of the labor force, typically work between 26-29 hours a week.
It is also important to remember that many of these workers choose to work less than a full-time job. More than two-thirds of the workers who report working less than full-time jobs say that they are doing so by choice.
If this ratio also applies to the workers who usually work between 26-29 hours it would mean that less than 300,000 workers, or roughly 0.2 percent of the workforce, are working this number of hours as a result of their employer’s decision.
The other striking aspect to the data in Table 1 is that the number and percentage of workers putting in between 26-29 hours per week was slightly lower in 2013 than in 2012.
The average percentage of workers in this category for 2013 was 0.597 percent.
That is down from 0.604 percent in 2012.
While this drop is not close to being statistically significant, the change is in the wrong direction for the ACA as job-killer story.
While there may certainly be instances of individual employers carrying through with threats to reduce their employees’ hours to below 30 to avoid the sanctions in the ACA, the numbers are too small to show up in the data.
It appears that in setting worker hours employers are responding to business considerations in much the same way as they did before the ACA took effect.
While the sanctions in the ACA may provide some marginal incentive to reduce worker hours below the 30-hour cutoff, other considerations in setting worker hours appear to be far more important.
Whoops! I'm sure this will stop the GOP talking point.
Regarding Obama's speech, which I haven't heard/read but saw some stuff tweeted out, about damn time he called out the GOP for the ignorance and obstructionism the way I've seen quoted.
Most importantly, he called them out for having no ideas, something I've been arguing about on Poli-GAF for a year and the reason I believed they'd lose the 2012 election.
"If you have better ideas ... stop taking meaningless repeal votes and share your concrete ideas with the country."
"You can't just be against something—you've got to be for something."
More of this, please.
One last note, here is what the GOP tweeted out in response to Obama's economic plan to add jobs: http://majorityleader.gov/blog/2013...row-jobs-and-strengthen-the-middle-class.html
How many jobs does this plan add in the next year, best case scenario? 200k? 400k if we're being generous? How is this a plan at all? We've got million of people who are looking for work and their response is a jobs plan that doesn't even add 500k jobs in the near term? What fucking clowns.
rocketknight
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Goddamn that was a good speech.
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Because then they'd not be able to be afraid of blacks/other minorities without feeling like racists and it would require them to give up a bit of privilege.
I've always noticed it with Euro-gaf whenever the Roma are brought up.
You let one escape, Cyan.
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Saw digbys post about this. An article that describes the harassment women face going to the last abortion clinic in Mississippi. Sad and infuriating read
http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...ic_what_it_s_like_to_be_an_escort_on_the.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...ic_what_it_s_like_to_be_an_escort_on_the.html
Arrowgigantic
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For an election 15 months away?
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I almost feel as if giving the senate to the republicans for two years with a 51 seat majority will be good. Give them the entire legislature let them pass crazy shit, Obama vetoes them, run in 2016 on the fact "we told you how insane they are, let use back in", slim democrat majority in house and something like 55 seat majority in the senate.
They might even do the dirty work and get ride of the filibuster.
Nate loves to do predictions without numbers.
They might even do the dirty work and get ride of the filibuster.
Nate loves to do predictions without numbers.
Aaron Strife
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I'm predicting 52 right now if that makes you feel any better.
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I don't get the logic to people doing this. You can still read the forum. It was one thing way back when when you had to be logged in to browse, but now there's no point.
Black Mamba
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http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/07/24/dems-who-dislike-obamacare-and-other-poll-tidbits/?mod=e2tw
these are some horrific numbers for the GOP. lol @ the trolling Democrats wanting GOP to block Obamacare to make the GOP look worse.
BTW, according to the poll, the "replace your own member of the House" number is the highest it's been since just before the 2010 GOP takeover of the House. hm....
Jack Remington
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The fact that 23% of Americans under 35 are dunces is still troubling. It should be 0%.
NYCmetsfan
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Just found out I'm gonna be interning on capitol hill this fall (it's in the house though, so it'll be even more fun)! Pretty excited to be going to DC finally and leaving the south since I've been here my whole life. Hope to find a job right after as its really hard to network politically in Florida.
Sucks it's unpaid but I'm lucky to have a good support network.
Sucks it's unpaid but I'm lucky to have a good support network.
Black Mamba
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23% of southern rural teenagers have never experienced the world.
I'm okay with that.
Congrats. Tell us who is sexting whom!
Aaron Strife
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Let's see if voters put their money where their mouth is. "Moderates" are easily swayed. In MN-3 our rep is Erik Paulsen whose voting record is the same as Michele Bachmann yet he goes out and claims he's a sensible centrist Republican and everyone believes it. In a district that voted for Obama twice he wins with more than 60% of the vote every time.
NYCmetsfan
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I assume it will be the interns
Black Mamba
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name recognition is a bitch. At the end of the day, a whole contingent of people go "i recognize his name and not the other guy and i don't really like that party soooooo"
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Are you in South Florida? We could take in a Mets game and troll Republicans.
NYCmetsfan
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Central.
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Ah, too bad. We'll just have to keep trolling them separately.
I wonder how many under 35 split the difference and play the whole "...but both parties are the same!" card. Because anecdotally I see too much of that on GAF and real life.
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While waiting on the full video of the Obama speech, here is an excerpt: Obama delivers speech on US economy from Knox College.
You guys weren't kidding, he went in rock hard and unwrapped.
EDIT: Full speech here: President Obama FULL SPEECH. Knox College Economy.
Add to that list any discussion around the minimum wage. They have been at least 3 or 4 threads on the MW post-election and all have been scary glimpses into the contempt that many people have for the working poor. The last thread with the young married woman who was a mother of three and worked at McDonald's was especially hard to read.
rocketknight
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Congratulations! I have a cousin interning up there now and he's been posting cool press room pictures to Facebook.
PhoenixDark
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To be fair, I didn't complain about it, I noted that the employer mandate was one of my least favorite aspects of the law and I deal with people on a near monthly basis who have lost benefits "due to Obamacare." It's a matter of greed on employers, and I'm glad to see it's overblown nationally.
empty vessel
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Relevant to Obama's speech on the economy, this article about the House Republicans' budget will depress the shit out of you:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/24/us/politics/house-gop-sets-new-offensive-on-obama-goals.html
These terrorists have to be stopped; they are destroying the country.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/24/us/politics/house-gop-sets-new-offensive-on-obama-goals.html
These terrorists have to be stopped; they are destroying the country.
jamesinclair
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keep careful notes of your work and hours so you can sue for backpay.
I stay the fuck away from threads like the oreily one. You know its a trap
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I love how the GOP has lost all pretense of Repeal and Replace
Horrible idea. You won't win and you will be burning bridges.
jamesinclair
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Of course he' ll win. And it will be a class action suit.
Did you miss the landmark case a few weeks ago?
Obama's America
PhoenixDark
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I certainly miss the days when republicans waved around their 10 page health care plan, that would cut premiums and save hundreds of billions of dollars without costing anything or raising taxes.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/george-hw-bush-shaves-head-in-solidarity-with
Reason #124141 why he's my favorite Republican.
Reason #124141 why he's my favorite Republican.
My crassly racist parent is an immigrant who came here because their father could engineer real good weapons + was vociferously anti-communist, and completely missed the mixture of poverty, crime, and ethnicity/race that rears its head quite a bit in the American experience.
However they expect you to have sympathy for the fact that people made fun of them for having a foreign name when they were growing up.
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Where from, if you don't mind my asking?
The UK, but that grandfather was from Eastern Europe. (World War 2 / NKVD refugee.)
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