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PoliGAF 2013 |OT2| Worth 77% of OT1

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Videoneon

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B-Dubs said:
There was one more crazy thing that happened in that primary but I can't remember what it was...
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Ten GOP Debate WTF moments

It has two kinds of cheering people dying, and some of what's been covered in the replies ("I would say any type of sexual activity has absolutely no place in the military.") There's still some weird shit in it ("Are you just gonna keep talking?!"), though it doesn't have Newt Gingrich's awkward angry rant at the round table or "10,000 bet?"
 
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Diablos

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“Even Bill Clinton, after I voted to impeach him, would work with you to get things done,” said Representative John Mica of Florida. That seemed like a high bar. But then there’s nobody Republicans love more than the former president, who has a winning way of not being Barack Obama. If only Clinton would come back! Then none of this would have happened, except the shutting down the government part.
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Oh there you go. Bill Clinton rolled over, that's why they fucking loved him so much. Talk about setting a precedent that changes expectations of the Presidency.
 
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Chichikov

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zero shift said:
I don't get it.
Is this a spoiler?
Are you making fun of me?
I'm confused.
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It's referring to a part of the plot you probably haven't experienced yet, but I'd hardly consider it a spoiler.
Either way, if you got to go grrrl power on that game, she's picking the wrong character, as the true hero of the story is of course
Lady Malcolm X
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RustyNails

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zero shift said:
So I just brought Bioshock Infinite during Steam's sale. I'm an hour and a half into it. I assume that Colombia is suppose to be a sobering parody of the tea partiers utopia as Rapture was to libertarians?
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My theory is Columbia = New Hampshire. There is something about that comparison that clicks with me.
 
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zero shift

Banned
Bioshock Infinite is boring as fuck. Its too bad because the atmosphere and premise is great. I love seeing Nazi America. Its like people said, its a great interactive movie, horrendous gameplay.

I can't believe these same people made the God-like System Shock II that I played earlier this year and loved to death.

Not to get off topic but I can't stand this stupid as shift of games becoming movies.

Dax01 said:
Women's intuition is a valuable thing...it's one of the reason why we're the superior gender.
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Further into the game. I get it now!
 
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teiresias

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This sounds to me like it takes some of the negotiating power away from the Democrats:

Pentagon: Most furloughed civilians ordered back

Most of the Pentagon's 400,000 furloughed employees will be back at work as early as next week under a decision announced Saturday by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel.
. . .
On Saturday, Hagel announced the Department of Defense had reconsidered what that law covered and decided that most of its civilian employees were covered as well.

In a written statement, Hagel said officials from the departments of Defense and Justice had consulted with each other just after the Pay Our Military Act was passed and that Justice "expressed its view that the law does not permit a blanket recall of all civilians."

However, both agreed that the law did allow the Department of Defense to eliminate furloughs for employees "whose responsibilities contribute to the morale, well-being, capabilities and readiness of service members," Hagel wrote in the statement.

Hagel has now directed the military to "move expeditiously to identify all employees whose activities fall under these categories." He said he expects this to "significantly reduce — but not eliminate" civilian furloughs.

Hagel had made it clear earlier in the past week that Pentagon lawyers were trying to determine ways for some of the Defense Department's 400,000 furloughed civilians to get back to work.

He told reporters traveling with him Tuesday in South Korea, "It does have an effect on our relationships around the world and it cuts straight to the obvious question: Can you rely on the United States as a reliable partner to fulfill its commitments to its allies?"
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Sorry if you're not in the Pentagon though, you're still screwed.

I mean, that's half of the furloughed civilian workforce that's just exempt from all of this because they're getting to piggyback off of military pay legislation.
 
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Sibylus

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U.S. government shutdown stokes Republican party civil war: Neil Macdonald

The Republican party has long since banished its true moderates, and moved further to the right. This is in fact a war between a right-wing caucus and its far-right ideologues.

“I’m absolutely thrilled,” said Michele Bachmann earlier this week, as the clock ticked toward shutdown. “This is exactly what we had hoped for."
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Had to calm down a reflexive Diablos at that last quote... been a lot of red, white, and blues all over Canadian news feeds. When does Boehner exactly plan on putting his spine back in again? Leaving it to the last minute doesn't instil much confidence in his resolve to avoid buckling like a folding chair. Again.
 
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Chichikov

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Riki said:
It's like I stepped back into the 90s.
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That Hilary joke is from 90s.
We sure those buttons are new?
I hate it when my outrage turns out to be misplaced.

zero shift said:
Infinite seems more like Fox News' America.
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Spoiler, a bit vague but a spoiler nonetheless, someone who remember the game chapters can tell you how far you need to be into the game -
It even went "fair and balanced" later on, which pisses me for no end. Sorry Ken Levine, you're not going to make me feel bad about whitey.
 
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Jooney

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That 'joke' on those badges are from Hilary's FLOTUS days. Please proceed, GOP.

For payback, the DNC should sell six-packs of sausages labelled 'Republican Committee on Women's Health'.
 
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zero shift

Banned
Holy fuck! Black Bolsheviks!

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Also one thing that bothers me about the game is how the Irish seem to be treated not that much better than black people. While the Irish did face a share amount of discrimination when they came to this country, it was nowhere near to the level of black people or native americans.
 
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RustyNails

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siddhu33 said:
Ted Cruz?
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Cruz is simply another teabot. Another slightly smarter male version of Michelle Bachmann. He is also a US Senator. Cain is the motherfucking CEO of Godfather Pizza. His campaign was somewhere between Rent Is Too Damn High guy and Roseanne. And he was leading the polls at one point despite his shenanigans. His ads were a thing of their own. We will never get another Cain Train.
 
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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
RustyNails said:
Cruz is simply another teabot. Another slightly smarter male version of Michelle Bachmann. He is also a US Senator. Cain is the motherfucking CEO of Godfather Pizza. His campaign was somewhere between Rent Is Too Damn High guy and Roseanne. And he was leading the polls at one point despite his shenanigans. His ads were a thing of their own. We will never get another Cain Train.
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Rent Is Too Damn High guy was awesome as fuck.
 
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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
zero shift said:
Also one thing that bothers me about the game is how the Irish seem to be treated not that much better than black people. While the Irish did face a share amount of discrimination when they came to this country, it was nowhere near to the level of black people or native americans.
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The irish have faced fairly substantial discrimination dating back over 800 years. I haven't beaten it yet but Infinite's jingoistic Columbia seemed to be a bit of the worst in imperialistic western cultures stretching back as far as they have existed, moreso than a mere indictment of the United States alone.
 
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zero shift

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Hawkian said:
The irish have faced fairly substantial discrimination dating back over 800 years. I haven't beaten it yet but Infinite's jingoistic Columbia seemed to be a bit of the worst in imperialistic western cultures stretching back as far as they have existed, moreso than a mere indictment of the United States alone.
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I'm not saying they weren't discriminated against, but more so they weren't as much as blacks were in 1912. A lot of the tales of discrimination the Irish faced in America during the 20th century, while isn't true to a point, is often overblown.
 
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Videoneon

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zero shift said:
"A Womans Authority on a World Superpower, Should be No More than her Authority on her Vagina."
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It almost sounds plausible, assuming it comes from some batshit insane guy out of nowhere.

Bo said:
U.S. government shutdown stokes Republican party civil war: Neil Macdonald



Had to calm down a reflexive Diablos at that last quote... been a lot of red, white, and blues all over Canadian news feeds. When does Boehner exactly plan on putting his spine back in again? Leaving it to the last minute doesn't instil much confidence in his resolve to avoid buckling like a folding chair. Again.
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I haven't been following Boehner himself but I don't understand his position--assuming that he's deliberately going along with the government shutdown. What does he get out of it, or what does the House GOP establishment get out of it? Or did he come to a point later down the line and think that he's bitten off more than he can chew, thus trying to find the most palatable result for himself/GOP establishment considering how fucked up shit has gotten? (read: shutdown happening in the first place, public disapproval). By the way, it seems the numbers are indeed there to get the govt going again. (see below)

Perhaps it's this?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/10/what-is-john-boehner-scared-of.html

I find the term "Banana Republicans" amazing.

B-Dubs said:
Oh man, the next GOP primary is going to be even dumber than we can imagine.
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I'm awaiting it eagerly.

zero shift said:
Holy fuck! Black Bolsheviks!



Also one thing that bothers me about the game is how the Irish seem to be treated not that much better than black people. While the Irish did face a share amount of discrimination when they came to this country, it was nowhere near to the level of black people or native americans.
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The hell? You should be playing a game with an actual plot and complex strategic systems, like Project X Zone.

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pigeon

Banned
Meanwhile, back at the superPAC...

wapo said:
Veteran Republican fundraisers are increasingly alarmed by the defiant stance of hard-line conservatives amid the federal government shutdown, prompting fears that many key donors may be restrained in their giving going into the 2014 midterms....

“People are totally annoyed,” said one attendee at the Crossroads meeting who asked not to be identified, to discuss private conversations.

The frustration was evident this past week not just at the Crossroads conference but also throughout the party’s high-end donor class. While grass-roots activists cheer the unyielding positions of conservative House Republicans, some of the GOP’s top fundraisers are watching the situation with growing dismay.

“I oppose Obamacare as much as anyone else does, but this is not the way to repeal it,” said Bobbie Kilberg, a longtime GOP donor and fundraiser in Northern Virginia.

“The fact is, donors have had it,” Kilberg added, saying she will not give donations to groups raising money broadly for House or Senate Republicans. “I will only give to individual candidates who get it.”...

One top party fundraiser said the Wall Street financiers and corporate executives he counts on for support are “having fits” over the GOP’s brinkmanship strategy, especially related to a potential default if Congress does not agree to raise the debt ceiling later this month.

“The donors I raise money from understand the vital importance of credit markets and are upset that the U.S. credit system is being put at risk,” said the fundraiser, who requested anonymity because of his position in the business world....

“There are a lot of major donors who feel that until the Republican party can field people who have a vested opinion of what to do and to do it in a prompt and efficient way, we’re going to withhold giving money,” Hoffman said, adding that the donor freeze could affect “a lot of current far-right Republicans.”
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Now Cruz isn't just raising money to run ads against other Republicans, he's costing the Republican Party as a whole money, specifically because people don't want to contribute if he might get any.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...5b3dac-2d04-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html
 
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thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
Bo said:
U.S. government shutdown stokes Republican party civil war: Neil Macdonald

Had to calm down a reflexive Diablos at that last quote... been a lot of red, white, and blues all over Canadian news feeds. When does Boehner exactly plan on putting his spine back in again? Leaving it to the last minute doesn't instil much confidence in his resolve to avoid buckling like a folding chair. Again.
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Boehner could have avoided all of this if he just backed the sequester level budget as a conservative budget instead of really selling it as "everything the democratics want". This shutdown is just going to make the tea partiers way more pissed off when he does cave without getting anything in return. I cannot imagine what the reaction is going to look like when/if that happens.

If Boehner didn't have the bravery to nip this before it got worse, I don't know how he's going to find the bravery now that there's a much higher cost for it. All we can hope for is the debt ceiling consequences being a big enough incentive to force him to suck it up.

Videoneon said:
The hell? You should be playing a game with an actual plot and complex strategic systems, like Project X Zone.
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Sure, if you think "lets kill everyone and get to the portal" repeated 50 times is an actual plot, and walking up to the nearest enemy and hitting the attack button counts as a complex strategic system.
 
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FelixOrion

Poet Centuriate
Cyan said:
Damn, pretty sure that's where FelixOrion was living over the summer.
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Yep that's exactly where I lived, January through July actually though.

I feel really sorry for those interns. If that happened to me when I was living/working at NASA Ames I would've been in such a bind, maybe even more so than some of them. If it had happened to me, I might've been able to crash with my NASA boss or maybe with a college friend who recently moved to San Jose, or maybe I could find a place through that Hacker Dojo, but I doubt the guys at HD could've found me a temp placement as I'm not a programmer or the like.
 
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Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
thepotatoman said:
Boehner could have avoided all of this if he just backed the sequester level budget as a conservative budget instead of really selling it as "everything the democratics want". This shutdown is just going to make the tea partiers way more pissed off when he does cave without getting anything in return. I cannot imagine what the reaction is going to look like when/if that happens.
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Yep. That's the problem when you keep trying to move the goalposts constantly. Eventually you move them so far that when the result falls short, it looks like you lost.
 
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syllogism

Member
Mario said:
Fox News poll time -

Who is to blame for the shutdown?

25% Republicans (like Boehner)
24% President Obama
17% Tea Partiers (like Cruz)


The screen ticker during the rest of the analysis segment reads

"Shutdown Showdown

Public divided on shutdown blame!
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Meanwhile in Fairbanks, Alaska

 
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OmniOne

Member
@ppppolls: Our new polls for @MoveOn in 24 GOP held Congressional districts finds Democrats leading in 17 and tied in 2 others: http://t.co/WC2btYKYS6
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There is a chance! :)


Holy shit. The 17 pickups are before mentioning the shutdown:

The districts where a generic Democratic challenger leads prior to any information being provided about the shutdown are: CA-31, CO-06,
FL-02, FL-10, FL-13, IA-03, IA-04, IL-13, KY-06, MI-01, MI-07, MI-11, NY-19, OH-14, PA-07, PA-08, WI-07.
The districts where a generic Democratic challenger leads after voters are told the Republican incumbent supported a shutdown are:
CA-10, NY-11, NY-23, VA-02.

The districts where the incumbent Republican leads in both head-to-head ballot tests are: CA-21, NV-03, OH-06.
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