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[ivysaur12]

What does this mean for Kay Hagan?

 

[jamesinclair]

How does boehner crawl out of this?

Its GOP.

When in doubt, double down.

Wouldnt be surprised if they try shutting more things down

 

[Fenderputty]

Huffington removed the the Obama said "no" headline

I just got the update. WTF mang.

 

[BLACKLAC]

So a nice "No".

 

[Diablos]

Its GOP.

When in doubt, double down.

Wouldnt be surprised if they try shutting more things down

It's our party we can do what we want[/SNL]

 

[sc0la]

Sepukku

I believe it is Sudoku actually

 

[remist]

Yeah, they probably laid out some groundwork. But Obama isn't going to fold on something that limits his authority to save the country's economy from barfing on the global economy when you have 40-50 ideological nutjobs in the House GOP who don't live in the real world.

So he didn't refuse. My guess is he gives into a similar deal with a longer term debt ceiling increase.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Give me your tears GOP. GIVE ME YOUR TEARS

Yup this is the key thing and the driver of these numbers.

American's love to hate things in the abstract, the GOP capitalized on this in 2010. The economy was in a rut and the presidents plans weren't seemingly doing anything. Blaming everything on the Government was appealing. The problem has been that we've actually cut a lot of government with the sequester and now in the shutdown, American's don't like it they see what it actively does.

The GOP was smart and popular when they attacked the goverment in abstraction but once they actually started cutting they ended up in this place. It will be hard for them to really connect because there are so many true believers in the party who aren't going to listen.

 

[Tamanon]

What does this mean for Kay Hagan?

?

Last batch of polls showed her winning pretty easily against possible challengers. But that was from September.

 

[PhoenixDark]

@TheKudlowReport 10m

BREAKING: @RepLynnJenkins just told Larry that House leaders hope to have the government opened by Monday

Boom

 

[bonercop]

Boom

them poll numbers whipped their asses into shape, huh?

 

[Tamanon]

Boom

Yeah.....I suspect this is about to be over. I expect ceremonial stuff like a non-binding conference committee.

 

[Riki]

Boom

And the end draws near.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Boom

'Bams is so getting laid tonight.

 

[ivysaur12]

Boom

hahahaahaha

 

[pigeon]

Boom

Come at the President, you best not miss.

 

[BLACKLAC]

Boom

I wonder if Republicans will be stupid enough to even SPEAK of trying this again.

 

[TacticalFox88]

I wonder if Republicans will be stupid enough to even SPEAK of trying this again.

Do you REALLY have to ask this? This is the GOP we're talking about.

These fools NEVER. EVER learn their lesson.

 

[remist]

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Fenderputty]

Boom

Nice!!

I wonder how many friends ted Cruz has now. Lol

 

[Hobbestetrician]

'Bams is so getting laid tonight.

Apparently their sex life has never been better.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Boom

@joshtpm Breaking: After viewing new polls, House GOP not only planing on reopening govt but considering opening 2nd govt for good measure.

.

 

[teiresias]

So they havent yet?

The unanimous vote the other day was ONLY for those working?

Everyone else is potentially fully fucked?

The unanimous vote was in the house and for a bill giving all Federal Employees back pay - essential or not, working now or not. It, however, has not been acted on in the Senate, probably partially because Cornyn (R-TX) is holding it up saying he won't give unanimous consent:

http://www.federaltimes.com/article...008/Bill-pay-furloughed-feds-hits-snag-Senate

The reason, according to his spokeswoman Megan Mitchell on Tuesday, is that Cornyn “feels like it is premature to deal with furloughed federal workers before we deal with veterans, the [National Institutes of Health] and other issues.”

So basically the other day, he was walking the line they were using in the House to justify the piecemeal CRs. I've no idea where it stands now. However, with Republicans offering "deals" that prolong the shutdown for potentially six more weeks (not to mention this horrendous poll for the GOP), I can't see how they can do that and then deny back pay without looking like even bigger douches then they already are.

"Essential" workers do get a raw deal in this regard though, as they are currently working without pay, but it's actually even worse because during shutdowns "essential" workers can't take ANY leave including sick leave or not show up for work or be cited as AWOL and subject to disciplinary action of some kind.

 

[Clevinger]

I wonder what these polls would look like if the media largely didn't play the "both sides at fault" game.

 

[Officerrob]

Is the house leadership going to go along with the Dems? I refuse to believe the tea partiers are going to back down

 

[smokeandmirrors]

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I lol'd

 

[Tamanon]

Is the house leadership going to go along with Dems, because I refuse to believe the tea partiers are going to back down

I don't think they'll necessarily vote for the clean CR. But I think Boehner will at least let it finally come to a vote. Then it'll pass with all the Dems and probably ~80 Reps.

 

[Doc Holliday]

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[TacticalFox88]

I wonder what these polls would look like if the media largely didn't play the "both sides at fault" game.

Lopsided.

 

[Officerrob]

I don't think they'll necessarily vote for the clean CR. But I think Boehner will at least let it finally come to a vote. Then it'll pass with all the Dems and probably ~80 Reps.

Reps will eat each other alive if it goes down like that

 

[NYCmetsfan]

@StevenTDennis: WSJ poll: 31% say directly affected by shutdown v 18% in '95 shutdown. Ouch.

"They'll find out they can live with a little less government"

 

[smokeandmirrors]

"They'll find out they can live with a little less government"

Slimdown indeed

 

[TacticalFox88]

Reps will eat each other alive if it goes down like that

 

[BLACKLAC]

"They'll find out they can live with a little less government"

More. MORE!

 

[TacticalFox88]

"They'll find out they can live with a little less government"

The GOP must be having aneurysms

:lol

 

[Riki]

Slimdown indeed

The GOP is very good at sliming down.

Spoiler

Their ratings!

 

[NYCmetsfan]

‏@robertcostaNRO 7m
But remember, everything is fluid, talks continue, GOP position, per aides, remains just a 6 wk DL hike; CR talk early stages, if that

@robertcostaNRO 3m
Scalise, on CNBC, says he needs to see more "dialogue" on fiscal issues before he backs any CR to reopen gov

@robertcostaNRO 4m
Scalise, RSC chair, on Jenkins's CR talk: "larry, that's not where we are"

 

[Riki]

It's like watching someone try to get around a mounting by constantly ramming their head in to it...
Just end this. You know you can't win, GOP.

 

[ridethepiggy]

Rep. James Lankford (R-OK) acknowledged Thursday that defunding Obamacare is not going to be a part of the ongoing debate about re-opening the government and increasing the debt limit.

"It all started of course because House Republicans linked the complete defunding of Obamacare to government spending. Whatever happened to that? In an op-ed in USA Today today [you said], 'Republicans have asked for two things on Obamacare and one thing on the debt ceiling,' but you didn't mention defunding Obamacare. Is that just off the table now?" Jake Tapper asked on CNN.

"That's currently off the table," Lankford, chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee, Tapper. "I can tell you that's where my constituents are overwhelmingly. They don't want this law to go into effect at all, but that's obviously not going to happen at this point."

lol

 

[TacticalFox88]

lol

 

[Y2Kev]

I had that thought, but then I asked myself, what are the chances we are NOT doing some variation of this game at the end of the current fiscal year? I'd say pretty low given how things are going. The Tea Party in the House have a knack for not learning lessons and concluding they just need to tea party harder next time.

I'd wager we do this dance again.



Nearly sprayed my keyboard after reading that one. :lol

Shouldn't we be trying to do this dance? Seems fun. They have two left feet.

Obama should ask for a CR that expires like two weeks before the election.

 

[NullPointer]

Just end this. You know you can't win, GOP.

 

[remist]

There's no way Boehner allows a clean anything on the floor for a vote.

 

[Riki]

lol

They don't want this law to go into effect at all, but that's obviously not going to happen at this point."

Ya think? You only failed 40+ times at it!

 

[Owzers]

"They'll find out they can live with a little less government"

All i can picture is the hannity clip from the Daily Show about Sean waking up and feeling fine. **** YOU!

 

[RustyNails]

Nullpointer on a killstreak with those images

 

[BLACKLAC]

Any Republican sites reporting this?

 

[mightynine]

He's probably waiting to see what Vitter thinks.

 

[teiresias]

So wait, were Scalise and Jenkins both on The Kudlow Report AT THE SAME TIME giving completely conflicting stories? How the hell does that messaging disaster happen?!?!

Or were they on at different points in the program?

 

[ivysaur12]

I'm so happy right now.