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PoliGAF 2013 |OT3| 1,000 Years of Darkness and Nuclear Fallout

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DasRaven

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"Mr. President I rise in opposition... I yield the floor." - Sen. Rafael "Teddy Bear" Cruz

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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I like Cruz. He's got a "We really need to appeal to conservatives so we'll pick him to be our vice presidential candidate and screw ourselves over in the process, guaranteeing a democrat White House win" aura about him.
 

Jooney

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House Rs "Profiles in Courage"

That got a chortle from me.

The courage to remove contraceptive coverage!
The courage to remove health care benefits for staffers!
The courage to repeal defund delay Obamacare!

Truly courageous. If Kennedy were alive today he would write about them in his sequel "Profiles in Courage 2: Profile Harder".
 
I like Cruz. He's got a "We really need to appeal to conservatives so we'll pick him to be our vice presidential candidate and screw ourselves over in the process, guaranteeing a democrat White House win" aura about him.

No fucking way. It's not like Palin, who was an unknown to most, who turned into a disaster. Cruz is a known commodity with negatives rising by the day, and even a large chunk of Republicans don't like him. I just can't see it happening.
 

bonercop

Member
i like cruz. he's a master troll on the level of herman cain. disingenuous piece of shit or not, the level of crazy he blasts out save him from being annoying like the rand pauls of the world.

i also love that weird face he makes when trying to look like a passionate crus(z?)ader
 
I like Cruz. He's got a "We really need to appeal to conservatives so we'll pick him to be our vice presidential candidate and screw ourselves over in the process, guaranteeing a democrat White House win" aura about him.

No serious candidate is dumb enough to make him their running mate.
 

East Lake

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No fucking way. It's not like Palin, who was an unknown to most, who turned into a disaster. Cruz is a known commodity with negatives rising by the day, and even a large chunk of Republicans don't like him. I just can't see it happening.
It's not so important that it actually happens. He's doing his best to split the party into the true believers and the RINO's.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Imagine there's no Obamacare
That thing is super flawed
No individual mandate below us
Above us only God
Imagine all the sick people
Lining up at the emergency room...

You might say this isn't socialism
But you'd be the only one
I hope some day you'll become a capitalist
And go to Walmart and buy a gun
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Well fuck. I certainly won't argue any of this was "worth it" but I certainly feel infused with vigor and energy watching all this salt.
 

Shirokun

Member
i like cruz. he's a master troll on the level of herman cain. disingenuous piece of shit or not, the level of crazy he blasts out save him from being annoying like the rand pauls of the world.

I'd agree with you, except this master troll cost the US economy 24 billion dollars. This scumbag needs to go down quickly.
 

Videoneon

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Came upon this from the Washington Post recently. It's a small piece using talk of the Tea Party congresspeople/sympathizers as anarchists to discuss the spirit of anarchism.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-leadership/wp/2013/10/11/the-tea-party-is-giving-anarchism-a-bad-name/

It's pretty misguided in intention (where's Egypt at now? did anarchists really propagate the 1% narrative, and if so what's the difference between the anarchist "spirit" and being an anarchist) but I like a couple of things that it acknowledges from "anarchists" like this:

Despite their anti-authoritarianism, some of today’s anarchists concede that states can serve socially important functions like ensuring sound infrastructure, basic consumer protections and comprehensive social welfare (though they believe such services are better executed with decentralized communities). But they do not support coercive aspects of state sovereignty, such as those operative in our military and criminal justice systems, and institutions like the NSA. The tea party claims to be for small government, but it calls for a strong centralized military and highly militarized law enforcement, especially with regard to undocumented immigrants.

Like any ideology, it seems reasonable for anarchists to make these concessions, though I'm very skeptical of the mechanics of bolded. I don't see where the anarchists are in America anyway (besides the couple of twentysomethings that were arrested a year or two ago) but there you have it.

edit: this post's tone doesn't properly reflect what I think, in retrospect. First, I actually quite like the surface level things of what anarchism without adjectives propagates (except I need it to be that egalitarian shit, not ancap or whatever), at least with regards to this article. However, I'm skeptical of the article's decision to frame things like Occupy with reference to anarchism, or characterize movements that never seemed to identify themselves broadly speaking as anarchist, or say that it came from anarchists. I would buy that anarchists took part in Occupy, without a doubt. But Occupy, the Arab Spring, due to anarchists?

This is where my comment about the "anarchist" spirit comes in. I remember this Noam Chomsky quote going something like this--

[ZEIT Campus: You often say you are an anarchist. What do you mean by that?] Chomsky: Students should challenge authorities and join a long anarchist tradition. [ZEIT Campus: “Challenge authorities” – a liberal or a moderate leftist could accept that invitation.] Chomsky: As soon as one identifies, challenges and overcomes illegitimate power, he or she is an anarchist. Most people are anarchists. What they call themselves doesn’t matter to me
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/20110614_en.htm
(excuse the shamelessly quick wikiquote copying)

I don't really mind if this meant everyone were an anarchist, but what does anarchism mean? The spirit of rejecting illegitimate authority structures, and using non-hierarchical free associative relationships to progress toward an egalitarian society? The idea seems to suggest that on the surface most everyone is an anarchist or virtually no one is an anarchist. As for "where are the anarchists"...I don't see what impact they are having in the realm of policy, or where they manifest in movements. Is it the nature of anarchist movements to be so not prevalent in mainstream discourse that they seem undetectable, or is the movement just extremely small nowadays? Even environmental groups are cited as such.
 
Cyan said:
Imagine there's no Obamacare
That thing is super flawed
No individual mandate below us
Above us only God
Imagine all the sick people
Lining up at the emergency room...

You might say this isn't socialism
But you'd be the only one
I hope some day you'll become a capitalist
And go to Walmart and buy a gun

Awesome.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
It's both hilarious and worrying at the same time that the conservative echo chamber conclusion to this debacle is "we need to go crazier".

Interesting times ahead heh.
 

GhaleonEB

Member

What in the actual fuck.

Limiting Taxation and Spending: Levin proposes a balanced budget amendment, limiting spending to 17.5% of GDP and requiring a three-fifths vote to raise the debt ceiling. He also proposes limiting the power to tax to 15% of an individual’s income, prohibiting other forms of taxation, and placing the deadline to file one’s taxes one day before the next federal election.
 
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