ridethepiggy
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PoliGAF 2013 |OT3| 1,000 Years of Darkness and Nuclear Fallout
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AlJazeera
NPR
BBC
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DemocracyNow! (Left Leaning)
The Economist (Right Leaning *don't like them but gotta give credit where credit is due*)
CBS News
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ABC News
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MSNBC
Dan Hibiki
Fox News
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NPR really REALLY isn't the liberal jerkoff the right makes it out to be. There are times during some of their programs in which they really go against social assistance.
While not part of the news section, this episode from This American Life made my blood boil.
One thing I took away from that article was the surprising amount of leverage that insurers have. See things like: "But just because an insurer sells in a state, it doesn't mean it sells in every area of a state so many residents have far fewer options." and the Aetna comments. It's just interesting, and sad, to see how that materializes on the ground. Much of the talk I've been reading mentions the need for people to enroll in the system for Obamacare to be better, but I haven't seen much about the presence of insurers. Lo and behold, they are acting with business interests in mind.
There was a small part of the story that talked about what convinced some insurers to leave--how certain states' regulations on pricing, transparency, and plan quality apparently forced insurers out. It cited Oregon, which as I recall suffered one of the bigger average premium hikes for younger people.
It's established that the enrollment so far has been underwhelming, and that the GOP will spread more FUD about this. But this is pretty unfortunate.
theprodigy
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this is an insult to Dan Hibiki
Well, that's likely because in those areas hospitals have more power than the insurance companies so that they get better prices making health care insurance not really profitable for insurance companies without high rates.
For example, while Minnesota is the cheapest in the nation, it does vary by area within the state. Guess which area has the highest insurance cost? Southeastern Minnesota where the Mayo Clinic is located. They dominate the entire market so are able to force insurance companies to pay higher costs for their services.
I can guarantee you that the host is a liberal and the show talks about issues in a more leftist manner. Its hard to explain because its not straight political, but when an issue comes up they usually bring in political scientists, professors, news columnists, etc, instead of two democrat and republican wankers to debate. Thats what I like about it. Actual issues and policies get discussed, not talking points.
And just because someone disagrees with leftist ideas does mean that they arent politically and ideologically left.
Fox News Reportedly Used Fake Commenter Accounts To Rebut Critical Blog Posts
New Book Details An Extensive Campaign By The Networks' PR Staffers
New Book Details An Extensive Campaign By The Networks' PR Staffers
PhoenixDark
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Which is why the administration should have simply refused to set up exchanges in certain states. I recognize it would harm people in those states, but ultimately it would have helped the law work better. And give people in those states an incentive to vote.
And this is why I've never applied for a job at FOX.
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thepotatoman
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I've lost a lot of faith in the BBC after this Greenwald interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Zvo8N3G94
Poor regular ol' NBC not even tiered
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
The first two questions are legit, the others... I stopped there. Yeah, kinda sad.
I think there is an argument to be made that they should not have released the information regarding US overseas monitoring and espionage.
Everything regarding activities against US Citizens is fair game, on the other hand.
I am SHOCKED.
Judge Jeanine Takes On the 'Unholy' ObamaCare Debacle -- What a salty bitch
Being on a cruise for a week (and banned. WTF?), I have been so far behind in my political news. I missed all the crazy things that were said.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/roland-m...obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery-comments/
Obamacare: not as bad as slavery but better than Jim Crow, at least.
They didn't really expect GOP govs to screw their own citizens over politics after the law had passed. We are seeing some unprecedented shit right now that no one could have predicted.
TacticalFox88
Banned
What? :lol
The GOP has been fucking over their own voters for over 30+ years. For them it was Tuesday.
PJV3
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Kirsty Wark is terrible, overly aggressive and usually mouthing establishment talking points. She should stick to the segments about the Arts.
That guy should watch this
http://www.slaverybyanothername.com/pbs-film/
What a fucktard
It is pretty funny though that they are supposedly all about states rights, but are leaving obamacare up to the Feds
Then turn right back around and say that the government shouldn't be in the healthcare business.
They don't know which way to spin now.
PoweredBySoy
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Cold kills spiders. I don't think anymore needs to be said.
The cold forces spiders indoors. Checkmate, Minnesotheists.
RustyNails
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Guys why the fight. Move to chicago. Half year crazy winter half year (almost) crazy summer. Best of both worlds.
cartoon_soldier
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Best city
Its going to be the dumbest city pretty soon with all of your school closings
At least they got population controls in place
The economist has been on a steady decline for the past 5+ years. They put out a lot of embarrassingly bad articles now.
RustyNails
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Brutal
1. This American Life is PRI, not NPR.
2. That episode didn't go against social assistance at all.
zero shift
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Their criticisms on France is hilarious. They don't even hide their bias. I love it how they wank off to the U.K. yet treat France like its a imploding nation when the U.K. is struggling just as much if not more than France and has a higher poverty rate and worse working conditions. You also don't see them talking about Germany much now after the country followed their suggestions and are facing stagnation.
There is also this lovely article. It goes on about effective poverty strategies but only looks at the progress on Asia and rarely mentions South America. They give a slight example of Brasil but then immediately counter it with a China middle class housing initiative which likely had little to do with reducing poverty or at least the same kind. They also failed to mention the other pink tide nations, including the nation with the most radical poverty drop *gulps* Venezuela.
There is also this embarrassing article about "state capitalism". Yeah the fastest growing economies in the world are definitely fucking up.
The Economist is good at giving information but its how it interprets it is the problem. While the writers seem to care about the middle class and poverty, they are still libertarians through and through. When it comes down to it, if it was a battle of lower poverty rates and wages vs GDP and liberal markets they will choose the latter every single time.
Oh my God!
Aaron Strife
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PPP went into 25 more GOP-held districts and found Democrats winning in 15 of them. Obama lost these districts by an average of two points. Coupled with their previous polling, Democrats lead in 37 districts.
Why can't the election just be this November?
Why can't the election just be this November?
speculawyer
Member
Need to taunt the GOP into closing down the government again.
It seems #conservativebandnames is a minor thing on twitter. Some of these are quite good.
Panic! at gay wedding ceremonies
Guns and Guns
U2 Can't Get Married with their hit song Red Red Whine
BenghaZZ top
Panic! at gay wedding ceremonies
Guns and Guns
U2 Can't Get Married with their hit song Red Red Whine
BenghaZZ top
Holy shit, just one turd floated after another.
theprodigy
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well that's um....interesting
Yeah I still go there often because they're the only major site that even bothers to treat specific economic or political news from a variety of nations, but their commentary is often terribad now, as you pointed out.
Which is apparently very easy because all you have to do is 'hurt their feelings'.
RoninChaos
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They'll never declare it a success because their base would crucify them. No, if it works then they'll just nitpick things like they have with Obama.
This reminds me of a speech I heard Regan give where he said that if Medicaid was implemented our grandchildren would be told stories about America and how we used to be free. Lol
Couple of corrections (cause I'm anal, yo) it was a spoken word album not a speech, and it's about the Social Security Amendments of 1965 as a whole (he talks more about Medicare provisions there).
The whole thing is just nuts.
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/new...-rhetoric-or-familiar-alarmist-claptrap-.html
That's fair.
I don't get how it's a power grab when it's one of the most easy and logical extrapolations you could make, like if the constitution had said "A + B = C" and then the supreme court decided that "B + A = C" is also true. Here the courts have to settle a dispute based on the law, and one law says X and another law says that the law shouldn't happen in the first place, and as the latter has supremacy the court has to rule that the former has no standing and in fact will never have standing.
Granted, I'm sure it shocked many at the time, simply because of the ramifications, but then again, you also had people who were arguing that the Bill of Rights was already implied and unnecessary as Congress already knew not to do such things. That they never thought about the actual process by which such prohibitions would be enforced wouldn't be too surprising.
empty vessel
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The court can rule that it is not its prerogative to make this decision, and that Congress already made it. In other words, the power to determine constitutionality can just as easily rest with the legislative branch as the judicial branch. In his opinion in Marbury v. Madison, Marshall does not really tackle this at all. Instead, he just assumes that nobody has passed on the question yet and the court must resolve the "dispute" according to the "law." There are many places that don't have anything like the judicial review we have here, including the UK, which adheres to the doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty.
It's easy to defend judicial review when thinking about things like ending segregation and upholding religious freedom. But the Supreme Court has been conservative for longer periods of time than it has been progressive, and this has led to the striking down of economic and health and safety regulations and, more recently, to the creation and imposition of corporate citizenship on the country. Nobody passed a law making corporations citizens. But SCOTUS has created these new entities through its power of judicial review.
eBay Huckster
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okay it's finally time for me to bow out of that "sanky panky clings to the gold standard" thread
there's only so much self-absorbed bullshit i can read from one poster
there's only so much self-absorbed bullshit i can read from one poster
And that was that.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/21/21058974-chris-christie-drops-challenge-to-same-sex-marriage-in-new-jersey?lite
It didn't hurt Mitt Romney, really, and it won't hurt Chris Christie.
Look, he gets to avoid the embarrassing and increasingly likely threat of the first veto override under his tenure as governor. He doesn't have to have a public referendum on the issue that would cost the state thousands (and he would lose). And now, because of the way this was decided, the press on it was much more muted had their been a NJ SCOTUS case that was definitive. As far as gay marriage legalizations have gone, this is easily most quiet in the news cycle, at least so far.
So, smart. Also: Fuck You Chris Christie.
Even then, I still prefer judicial review as the final stop for any constitutional question, even if the results are not necessarily what I would have preferred.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/21/21058974-chris-christie-drops-challenge-to-same-sex-marriage-in-new-jersey?lite
It didn't hurt Mitt Romney, really, and it won't hurt Chris Christie.
Look, he gets to avoid the embarrassing and increasingly likely threat of the first veto override under his tenure as governor. He doesn't have to have a public referendum on the issue that would cost the state thousands (and he would lose). And now, because of the way this was decided, the press on it was much more muted had their been a NJ SCOTUS case that was definitive. As far as gay marriage legalizations have gone, this is easily most quiet in the news cycle, at least so far.
So, smart. Also: Fuck You Chris Christie.
Even then, I still prefer judicial review as the final stop for any constitutional question, even if the results are not necessarily what I would have preferred.
I'm not defending judicial review because it suits me, but because legislative review makes no sense. You can't depend on a branch of government to determine by itself whether it's out of line. The act of passing laws in clear contradiction with the Constitution already demonstrates their inability to make such decisions. That's not to absolve the judicial branch of responsible judgement, but self-regulation doesn't work and runs counter to the construction of our government. Furthermore, we see this when the executive branch declares that it is the only one who can determine its own legality, like with "executive privilege".
theprodigy
Member
hey, where's my OT thread discussing this?
RustyNails
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Bring up immigration reform during summer and watch them self-immolate right before elections.
It seems obvious that the Tea Party is fighting for control of the Republican party. Many of them are willing to explicitly state as much. Instead of the TP being routed from the party, they expect the opposite -- the ejection of all the RINOs.
They're delusional, but that's nothing new. Personally, I'm enjoying watching the Republican party eat itself. I expected this to happen when the TP first showed up. If you let the fringe wing of your party carry the ball, they're generally unwilling to give it up just because they're carrying in the wrong direction.
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