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If only the healthcare industry could somehow add more people to its workforce.

hiring people to meet higher demand for health care services? that's socialism.

 

[Wilsongt]

Cramped waiting rooms, long waiting lists for surgeries, less time with your doctor, assuming you even have a regular one, etc.

I don't know about you, but some of the doctors I have gone to have done their best to get people in and out of their office as quickly as possible, especially specialized doctors like dermatologists. I had one derma that constantly had a waiting room full of people, she was constantly late, and barely spent more than 3 minutes with any individual patient.

If only the healthcare industry could somehow add more people to its workforce.

That's not gonna happen. The rhetoric that future doctors are fucked is at an all time high now that the healthcare law is in place. In fact, I was having a lunch with a guy yesterday who works in healthcare who basically stated that shit is going to hit the fan now that Obamacare is in place.

 

[Oblivion]

Cuz computer glitches == people dying and having their homes destroyed lol

Well, clearly.

I'm most amused by the fact that Republicans are attacking Obama by pointing to Bush's fuck ups.

Also, unlike Bush, Obama never said Sebelius did a good job with the website.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

If only the healthcare industry could somehow add more people to its workforce.

Well if you want to believe the conservative reports, a number of doctors are planning to quit because of all this.

 

[Oblivion]

Well if you want to believe the conservative reports, a number of doctors are planning to quit because of all this.

Well it makes sense since that's what happened in all the other countries where UHC was implemented.

edit: Btw, haven't there been over 100k health sector related jobs created since Obamacare was enacted? Jobs in the private sector, mind you, not government bureaucrats.

 

[FLEABttn]

long waiting lists for surgeries

Every time someone says this would be a result under socialized medicine, I can't help but remind them it took me 12 months, from diagnosis to surgery, under the wonderful American system we have.

 

[Oblivion]

Whenever someone says the U.S. has the best health care system in the world, the only proper follow up question is:

"...for poor people?"

 

[ivysaur12]

Whenever someone says the U.S. has the best health care system in the world, the only proper follow up question is:

"...for poor people?"

Exactly.

 

[Link]

Well if you want to believe the conservative reports, a number of doctors are planning to quit because of all this.

1. I don't believe it. I really doubt doctors are going to throw away their careers like that.

2. Those who would throw their careers away over this aren't doctors anyone should want to go to anyway.

3. There will be plenty of doctors that are in the field for the right reasons willing to replace them.

 

[Sibylus]

Obama didn’t know about surveillance of U.S.-allied world leaders until summer, officials say (Scott Wilson & Anne Gearan, WashPo)

In the midst of the controversy over U.S. surveillance this summer, top intelligence officials held a briefing for President Obama at the White House — one that would provide him with a broad inventory of programs being carried out by the National Security Agency.

Some of those programs, including the collection of e-mails and other communications from overseas, had already been disclosed because of leaks from former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. But Obama was also informed of at least one program whose scope surprised him: “head of state collection.”

If Obama and senior officials at the White House were unaware of the scope of the program, so, too, were key lawmakers, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who said Monday that her panel had not been properly informed of activities going back a decade or more.

“With respect to NSA collection of intelligence on leaders of U.S. allies — including France, Spain, Mexico and Germany — let me state unequivocally: I am totally opposed,” Feinstein said in a statement, adding that her committee would “initiate a major review into all intelligence collection programs.”

“Unless the United States is engaged in hostilities against a country or there is an emergency need for this type of surveillance,” she said, “I do not believe the United States should be collecting phone calls or emails of friendly presidents and prime ministers. The president should be required to approve any collection of this sort.”

They said the issue came up only after news reports of NSA spying in Brazil and in Mexico, among other countries. Obama asked for information on what exactly the agency was doing in those allied countries and in others.

The European Union has sent a nine-member delegation to Washington for meetings with U.S. officials this week to underscore European anger over the scope of American electronic surveillance.

The group, which is meeting with diplomatic, trade and other government officials, is warning that the United States must take specific steps to restore confidence or risk scuttling talks on a major transatlantic free-trade pact.

News doing its job reaps long overdue dialogue. Due kudos!

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Obama didn’t know about surveillance of U.S.-allied world leaders until summer, officials say (Scott Wilson & Anne Gearan, WashPo)

News doing its job reaps long overdue dialogue. Due kudos!

If this is true then I think there is a major problem that needs correction. I don't expect Obama to know every single thing they do but this is absurd that they'd keep this secret.

The NSA needs a lot more guidance and oversight.

 

[Sibylus]

The want of more oversight is definitely a given, but I'm not exactly surprised that they didn't volunteer the information. "Need-to-know-itis" is pandemic even up to and including the executive, and in a lot more places than just the US.

 

[Chumly]

Well if you want to believe the conservative reports, a number of doctors are planning to quit because of all this.

You will always have nut bags but they are in the minority.

I don't know about you, but some of the doctors I have gone to have done their best to get people in and out of their office as quickly as possible, especially specialized doctors like dermatologists. I had one derma that constantly had a waiting room full of people, she was constantly late, and barely spent more than 3 minutes with any individual patient.



That's not gonna happen. The rhetoric that future doctors are fucked is at an all time high now that the healthcare law is in place. In fact, I was having a lunch with a guy yesterday who works in healthcare who basically stated that shit is going to hit the fan now that Obamacare is in place.

I don't even know what your trying to say? Some guy said obamacare is causing shit to hit the fan so the healthcare industry won't hire anyone?

It's a fact that the healthcare industry will expand and will be probably drag a few people kicking and screaming.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The want of more oversight is definitely a given, but I'm not exactly surprised that they didn't volunteer the information. "Need-to-know-itis" is pandemic even up to and including the executive, and in a lot more places than just the US.

Well the NSA is fighting back saying the White House approved this:
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77965005/

This is gonna get nasty. If I was Obama and this information was kept from me I'd fire you. My reading between the lines and guess is that spying on allies was approved but the spying on officials wasn't really offered up by the agencies to the president.

Edit: NBC took down their Obama knew people were losing their health care story.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Virginia poll from Washington Post. Democrats getting creamed. Oh wait

Governor

McAuliffe (D) 51 (47)
Cuccinelli (R) 39 (39)

Lt Gov

Northam (D) 52 (45)
Jackson (R) 39 (42)

Attorney General

Herring (D) 49 (45)
Obenshain (R) 46 (42)

Democratic Party: 50 fav, 48 unfav

Republican Party: 32 fav, 65 unfav

State party idiocy + gerrymandering means they're not going to recapture the State House short of a miracle, but still this (along with Obama's solid 2012 win) will mark a pretty amazing transformation.

 

[theprodigy]

Virginia poll from Washington Post. Democrats getting creamed. Oh wait


State party idiocy + gerrymandering means they're not going to recapture the State House short of a miracle, but still this (along with Obama's solid 2012 win) will be a pretty amazing transformation.

bad news for Kay Hagan
or something

 

[Aaron Strife]

bad news for Kay Hagan
or something

Bad news for Obama.

 

[Sibylus]

Judging by the demeanor of the Senate Intelligence Committee, they look to be siding with the administration in an attempt to skirt the backlash. If nothing changes, NSA will probably be left with the PR hit and continue about its business. Potential tidings of dysfunction between all parties involved in the future, though, and that doesn't really bode well for anyone.

I'm a little baffled at the international response, at it being genuine surprise anyway. I find it a bit more plausible that the Snowden disclosures presented an irresistible opportunity to flex a little diplomatic muscle and stir nationalistic sentiments, particularly now that there is the cover of an ever-growing group of complainants with which to stand.

 

[theprodigy]

Bad news for Obama.

nonono we're doing pre-2014 fake Diablosing

 

[Aaron Strife]

nonono we're doing pre-2014 fake Diablosing

Well, what'll happen after Kay Hagan loses is Republicans will win every Senate seat and impeach Obama.

 

[theprodigy]

Well, what'll happen after Kay Hagan loses is Republicans will win every Senate seat and impeach Obama.

even if they get +20 seats in 2014 don't they still fall short

 

[Chichikov]

Judging by the demeanor of the Senate Intelligence Committee, they look to be siding with the administration in an attempt to skirt the backlash. If nothing changes, NSA will probably be left with the PR hit and continue about its business. Potential tidings of dysfunction between all parties involved in the future, though, and that doesn't really bode well for anyone.

Nothing will change, the head of the NSA straight up lied to congress and nothing happened.
The government need re-assert its control over its spooks, this is getting silly.

I'm a little baffled at the international response, at it being genuine surprise anyway. I find it a bit more plausible that the Snowden disclosures presented an irresistible opportunity to flex a little diplomatic muscle and stir nationalistic sentiments, particularly now that there is the cover of an ever-growing group of complainants with which to stand.

Either that, or tapping the phones of friendly heads of states is not as acceptable as you seem think.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Yeah, Cuccinelli looks like he's toast at this point.

Did anyone ever hold up Cuccinelli as a presidential candidate? If they did I'd like to laugh at them.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Did anyone ever hold up Cuccinelli as a presidential candidate? If they did I'd like to laugh at them.

McDonnel was the possible 2016 candidate. Then, he ran aground into issues. But, if you want some hilarity and 2012-era unskewing, go here -

http://www.redstate.com/griffinelec...kely-electorate-turn-the-tide-for-cuccinelli/

 

[Aaron Strife]

McDonnel was the possible 2016 candidate. Then, he ran aground into issues. But, if you want some hilarity and 2012-era unskewing, go here -

http://www.redstate.com/griffinelec...kely-electorate-turn-the-tide-for-cuccinelli/

McDonnell's fall from grace will never cease to amuse me. What an asshat.

Saw some post from redstate (or some other such cesspool) about plans to recall Governor McAuliffe. lol because recalling a governor for purely political reasons worked so well in Wisconsin.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Nothing will change, the head of the NSA straight up lied to congress and nothing happened.

He's leaving from what I read. Congress will investigate. The fundamentals won't change we're going to spy more than any other country besides maybe china and russia but the overreaches, at least for now, will be more closely watched. Its always a cat and mouse game tech expands to fast.

The supreme court really needs to step in to give guidance IMO. We need more 4th amendment jurisprudence.

I will give the publishers of this information credit. They're getting policy changes because of the way their leaking. I think there are legitimate criticisms of it especially Greenwald's claims but its changed policy more than a simple dump would have. Der Spiegel had a good article how the recent leaks regarding Germany have built up.

I still think what will happen is 5 eyes will just expand, spying won't diminish it will just be more international.

 

[Sibylus]

Nothing will change, the head of the NSA straight up lied to congress and nothing happened.

The government need re-assert its control over its spooks, this is getting silly.

It is pretty silly, but rightly or wrongly, the intelligence community has long been accustomed to a large degree of autonomy when it comes to the way they achieve the objectives the administration hands them. Far from unheard of for departments to "rebel" against new directions handed down from on high. Messy work to make it stick, but at times it has to be done. I agree with you, this is probably one of those times.

Either that, or tapping the phones of friendly heads of states is not as acceptable as you seem think.

I made no pretense of it being acceptable behavior, simply that it is expected behavior. I could very well be wrong on that count.

 

[Wilsongt]

You will always have nut bags but they are in the minority.


I don't even know what your trying to say? Some guy said obamacare is causing shit to hit the fan so the healthcare industry won't hire anyone?

It's a fact that the healthcare industry will expand and will be probably drag a few people kicking and screaming.

Sheer anecdotal evidence. I am just saying that there are people out there who believe that the ACA is going to ruin the healthcare industry.

Well the NSA is fighting back saying the White House approved this:
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77965005/

This is gonna get nasty. If I was Obama and this information was kept from me I'd fire you. My reading between the lines and guess is that spying on allies was approved but the spying on officials wasn't really offered up by the agencies to the president.

Edit: NBC took down their Obama knew people were losing their health care story.

Yahoo is still running with it, though.

Fox News has anectodal evidence of someone seeing their insurance premiums rise. Oh nos!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2778116871001/my-health-expenses-are-increasing-ten-fold-under-obamacare/

Lol "You may not want maternal care, dental, vision..." Yet the woman is wearing glasses.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Yahoo is still running with it, though.

NBC put it back up claiming it was a publishing error, but there are changes.

Edit: Ok now there just doing whatever. The first paragraph is back in. WTF NBC

 

[Chichikov]

It is pretty silly, but rightly or wrongly, the intelligence community has long been accustomed to a large degree of autonomy when it comes to the way they achieve the objectives the administration hands them. Far from unheard of for departments to "rebel" against new directions handed down from on high. Messy work to make it stick, but at times it has to be done. I agree with you, this is probably one of those times.

I think this approach hurt American interests much more than it helped them.

p.s.
Fuck APKmetsfan's new avatar.
Last name sleeping, first name never.

 

[Sibylus]

I think this approach hurt American interests much more than it helped them.

p.s.
Fuck APKmetsfan's new avatar.
Last name sleeping, first name never.

I would definitely agree, results divorced from "values" has definitely in the long run hurt American interests in both moral and material lights more than it has helped. Not that it would prove to be as easy as appointing an officer to stand behind people and say, "that's kinda fucked up and runs totally counter to our values, dude", but it's nice to want things.

P.S. Bwaha, weak knees

P.P.S. Totally dubbing this hypothetical officer an "Obammissar".

 

[Aylinato]

Obama didn’t know about surveillance of U.S.-allied world leaders until summer, officials say (Scott Wilson & Anne Gearan, WashPo)






News doing its job reaps long overdue dialogue. Due kudos!

TBH I doubt it stops with allied leaders, I'm betting they were spying on our own politicians.

 

[Chichikov]

I would definitely agree, results divorced from "values" has definitely in the long run hurt American interests in both moral and material lights more than it has helped. Not that it would prove to be as easy as appointing an officer to stand behind people and say, "that's kinda fucked up and runs totally counter to our values, dude", but it's nice to want things.

P.S. Bwaha, weak knees

P.P.S. Totally dubbing this hypothetical officer an "Obammissar".

All it took to stop the CIA from political assassination (which was like their favorite pastime) is an executive order.
It's very doable to get the spooks under control, life ain't Nikita, you just need the will to do it.

 

[Black Mamba]

Rand Paul plagirized Wikipedia's entry for the movie "Gattaca" for tonight's speech for Cuccineli

CLOWN SHOES CLOWN SHOES.

Ahahahaha. Fucking clowns, the lot of them. Who fucking rips off wikipedia to give a political speech!?

Amazing. Everyone, watch the Maddow video at the link. It's hilarious.

 

[Sibylus]

TBH I doubt it stops with allied leaders, I'm betting they were spying on our own politicians.

I don't doubt some have and will try, but there are orders of magnitudes less payout involved and it's career suicide (with a possibility of trial and prison) if the thing leaks. That, and I doubt many would be willing to go through official channels after Watergate.

In light of the hysteria whipped up around the IRS hearings also, I think you'd have to have a death wish to try something like that with the intelligence apparatuses. Under the table spying is probably the only sane option.

All it took to stop the CIA from political assassination (which was like their favorite pastime) is an executive order.
It's very doable to get the spooks under control, life ain't Nikita, you just need the will to do it.

Oh, no question about the feasibility of doing it. I was more focused on the office politics nightmare that might ensue (as has happened at least once in the CIA's history, amid Iran-Contra).

 

[B-Dubs]

Rand Paul plagirized Wikipedia's entry for the movie "Gattaca" for tonight's speech for Cuccineli

CLOWN SHOES CLOWN SHOES.

Ahahahaha. Fucking clowns, the lot of them. Who fucking rips off wikipedia to give a political speech!?

Amazing. Everyone, watch the Maddow video at the link. It's hilarious.

And people actually respect him.

 

[Trouble]

Rand Paul plagirized Wikipedia's entry for the movie "Gattaca" for tonight's speech for Cuccineli

CLOWN SHOES CLOWN SHOES.

Ahahahaha. Fucking clowns, the lot of them. Who fucking rips off wikipedia to give a political speech!?

Amazing. Everyone, watch the Maddow video at the link. It's hilarious.

I think plagiarism might be a bit strong, since he is specifically talking about the movie. Can you really plagiarize from Wikipedia?

Also, this guy is such a paper libertarian, like pretty much all the tea party that call themselves libertarian. How does outlawing abortion increase personal liberty?

 

[B-Dubs]

I think plagiarism might be a bit strong, since he is specifically talking about the movie. Can you really plagiarize from Wikipedia?

Also, this guy is such a paper libertarian, like pretty much all the tea party that call themselves libertarian. How does outlawing abortion increase personal liberty?

Yes you can. If you do it in college they have the right to kick you to the curb, they'll hardly ever do it but if you get caught often enough they can. Plagiarism is plagiarism.

 

[Trouble]

Yes you can. If you do it in college they have the right to kick you to the curb, they'll hardly ever do it but if you get caught often enough they can. Plagiarism is plagiarism.

It's been a while since college, but my recollection was you just needed to properly quote and cite sources. That was before Wikipedia existed though (*yells at cloud*), I don't know the rules on its validity as a reference source.

 

[Black Mamba]

I think plagiarism might be a bit strong, since he is specifically talking about the movie. Can you really plagiarize from Wikipedia?

Also, this guy is such a paper libertarian, like pretty much all the tea party that call themselves libertarian. How does outlawing abortion increase personal liberty?

I don't think what he did was wrong, he wasn't writing a book or essay or something.

But to go out there and use a movie as a critique of policy and in doing so quote wikipedia's page on it pretty much verbatim (without mentioning it) shows you don't actually know anything about the movie and are trusting another source.

I'm sorry, but I can't take someone seriously if you do that. And if you want to use the movie and never saw it, you fucking change the words. How hard is that? If you're so lazy you have to repeat Wiki, you suck.

You can cite Wiki in an argument, but you can't do what he did and not look like a fool.

 

[B-Dubs]

It's been a while since college, but my recollection was you just needed to properly quote and cite sources. That was before Wikipedia existed though (*yells at cloud*), I don't know the rules on its validity as a reference source.

It doesn't count as one, but if you plagiarize from it you'll get in just as much trouble. People only ever use it for general information that you should already know and use the actual sources at the bottom to do the real research though.

 

[Aaron]

It's been a while since college, but my recollection was you just needed to properly quote and cite sources. That was before Wikipedia existed though (*yells at cloud*), I don't know the rules on its validity as a reference source.

You're not supposed to copy any source whole cloth as he did, except in small excerpts. The whole point of essays is to rephrase things in your own words, and display your own critical thought on the subject. Something which Mister Paul completely failed to do.

 

[Sibylus]

'We're Really Screwed Now': NSA's Best Friend Just Shivved The Spies (Shane Harris & John Hudson, Foreign Policy)

One of the National Security Agency's biggest defenders in Congress is suddenly at odds with the agency and calling for a top-to-bottom review of U.S. spy programs. And her long-time friends and allies are completely mystified by the switch.

"We're really screwed now," one NSA official told The Cable. "You know things are bad when the few friends you've got disappear without a trace in the dead of night and leave no forwarding address."

It was not clear what precipitated Feinstein's condemnation of the NSA. It marks a significant reversal for a lawmaker who not only defended agency surveillance programs -- but is about to introduce a bill expected to protect some of its most controversial activities.

Perhaps most significant is her announcement that the intelligence committee "will initiate a review into all intelligence collection programs." Feinstein did not say the review would be limited only to the NSA. If the review also touched on other intelligence agencies under the committee's jurisdiction, it could be one of the most far-reaching reviews in recent memory, encompassing secret programs of the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, agencies that run imagery and spy satellites, as well as components of the FBI.

A former intelligence agency liaison to Congress said Feinstein's sudden outrage over spying on foreign leaders raised questions about how well informed she was about NSA programs and whether she'd been fully briefed by her staff. "The first question I'd ask is, what have you been doing for oversight? Second, if you've been reviewing this all along what has changed your mind?"

A senior congressional aide said, "It's an absolute joke to think she hasn't been reading the signals intelligence intercepts as Chairman of Senate Intelligence for years."

The former official added that the "bottom line question is where was the Senate Intelligence Committee when it came to their oversight of these programs? And what were they being told by the NSA, because if they didn't know about this surveillance, that would imply they were being lied to."

The surprise change of tone comes during a crucial week on Capitol Hill as lawmakers on opposing sides of the surveillance debate look to introduce rival bills related to the NSA.

Striking first blood, opponents of expansive NSA surveillance are expected to introduce the "USA Freedom Act" on Tuesday, which would limit the bulk data collection of records under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, install an "office of the special advocate" to appeal FISA court decisions, and give subpoena powers on privacy matters to the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board. Sponsored by Reps. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) and John Conyers (D-MI), the bill is backed by a strong bipartisan bench of some 60 lawmakers, including Reps. Darrell Issa (R-CA), Mike Quigley (D-IL), and Justin Amash (R-MI) and Sheila Jackson (D-TX).

Unlike many House bills, Freedom Act has some bipartisan support in the Senate in the form of Vermont Democrat Patrick Leahy, who will be introducing a similar bill at the same time.

On the opposing side is Feinstein, who is looking to codify the NSA's controversial phone records program in her bill set for markup this week. According to published reports, the bill would give the agency the authority to vacuum metadata of all U.S. phone calls but not their content, meaning duration, numbers, and time of phone calls are fair game. A spokesperson for Feinstein said that the senator plans to move forward with the bill even in light of today's rhetorical about-face.

While the Feinstein bill could gain support in the Senate, a Congressional aide familiar with the politics in the House say it's likely dead on arrival in the lower chamber. If it went down, however, pro-surveillance lawmakers would still likely put up a fight.

Still, others often in favor of government surveillance have carved out surprising positions. Republican hawk John McCain, for instance, is now calling for a special select committee to investigate U.S. spying. "We have always eavesdropped on people around the world. But the advance of technology has given us enormous capabilities, and I think you might make an argument that some of this capability has been very offensive both to us and to our allies," McCain said.

Coleman responded to the same question: "New Zealand's not worried at all about this," he said. "We don't believe it would be occurring, and look, quite frankly there'd be nothing that anyone could hear in our private conversations that we wouldn't be prep[ared to share publicly." Coleman then cited a political cartoon in a newspaper in Wellington. It showed an analyst listening to the communiques from New Zealand with a big stream of "ZZZs" next to it. "I don't think New Zealand's got anything to worry about, and we have high trust in our relationships with the U.S."

(New Zealand, of course, enjoys privileged status wrt US surveillance as a Five Eye member)

By my count (which by no means should be relied upon at this hour), three floated bills, and one, maybe two investigations. Lots to watch for in the coming weeks.

 

[KingGondo]

Obama should have been clearer about the consequences of the ACA, but in the end I'm not gonna shed a tear for anyone losing their current insurance plan in favor of a plan that meets basic care requirements.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

'We're Really Screwed Now': NSA's Best Friend Just Shivved The Spies (Shane Harris & John Hudson, Foreign Policy)

(New Zealand, of course, enjoys privileged status wrt US surveillance as a Five Eye member)

By my count (which by no means should be relied upon at this hour), three floated bills, and one, maybe two investigations. Lots to watch for in the coming weeks.

I think this episode (merkelgate) just pissed off a bunch of lawmakers because they didn't know and feel lied to. Not a good think to do to the people who control your funding and legal authority.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Rand Paul plagirized Wikipedia's entry for the movie "Gattaca" for tonight's speech for Cuccineli

CLOWN SHOES CLOWN SHOES.

Ahahahaha. Fucking clowns, the lot of them. Who fucking rips off wikipedia to give a political speech!?

Amazing. Everyone, watch the Maddow video at the link. It's hilarious.

Genetic discrimination is already illegal so what are his fears of Obama and liberals ushering a gattaca world? Especially funny when you realize his father voted AGAINST banning such discrimination.

 

[empty vessel]

"USA Freedom Act" ..., which would limit ... the [USA] Patriot Act."

I guess Freedom trumps Patriotism. That is good to know for future bill-naming purposes.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Obama should have been clearer about the consequences of the ACA, but in the end I'm not gonna shed a tear for anyone losing their current insurance plan in favor of a plan that meets basic care requirements.

Unfortunately the story is always going to be "Was paying X, now I'm paying >X. Thanks Obama!"

They're really letting the narrative run away from them with this.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

I guess Freedom trumps Patriotism. That is good to know for future bill-naming purposes.

Constitution protection act.
Liberty act
Terrorism sucks act

 

[Joe Molotov]

Constitutional Patriots of Freedom and Liberty Act