Rafa=FedKilla
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Schway. Hopefully this holds or Rubio drops a little. Jeb needs to attack him. Are they still airing that Santorum endorsement ad?
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So you think she agrees with him on the matter?
shinra-bansho
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I'd say Albright is Clinton's mentor. Of course, there are reasons to dislike her too.
Warren Christopher is too dead to mentor anyone.
And Condi and Colin Powell are contemporaries.
They probably all get together and drink margaritas on Sunday Funday.
Warren Christopher is too dead to mentor anyone.
And Condi and Colin Powell are contemporaries.
They probably all get together and drink margaritas on Sunday Funday.
Trump over everyone by double digits and Bush ahead of Rubio is all I want out of South Carolina.
And? That doesn't mean they agree on everything. You have a pretty odd view of how mentors work.
Dixon's Jet
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And a very close personal friend.
A mentor who is also a holocaust baiter.
And that means she has to agree with everything he says and does because....
gutter_trash
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I love how the Jeb bump only hurts Rubio alone; those two are so tethered from the same voter block
User 463088
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For the same reasons RBG and Scalia agreed on every single thing.
Basileus777
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Those are pretty awful numbers for Cruz. At least Rubio can point to the establishment vote getting split with Bush and Kasich. Cruz is at 14% in a state 2/3s of which is evangelical and might not get a single delegate if these numbers hold up.
So you think she agrees with him on the matter?
So you think she agrees with him on the matter?
Dixon's Jet
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I don't think she has to agree with everything he says and does. Why do you say that?
She doesn't care.
Yoda
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The worst part of the establishment is the cluster is evenly divided, no one is going to consider dropping @ all.
Because otherwise this is all guilt by association bullshit.
Sorry, Clinton didn't care about the Vietnam War?
User 463088
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I think you mean best part.
Also, Dubya looked horrible today. Maybe he's not painting enough or something. Dude looked gaunt as hell.
Dixon's Jet
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Not enough to fight for Kissinger's indictment.
How so? Kissinger and Clinton are now famous for their luxurious holiday's together, and Clinton says he's a close friend and she holds his advice in very high esteem.
Basileus777
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No one other than perhaps Carson is dropping out before March 1st.
shinra-bansho
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SC is winner takes all by district though, from memory. So the numbers don't translate proportionally into delegates.
Spoiled Milk
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Look. You're wrong.
Kissinger predicted that Johnson was going to offer a cease-fire in order to stop the war and make the Democrats look like they had successfully handled the Communist crisis in Southeast-Asia. That was his only role in that. He didn't leak any secret information, he just predicted it because the signs were very obvious to anyone who was paying attention. Nixon told Anna Chennault to relay the message that Republicans would do the capitalists one better, with the implication that the South could retake the North and that no division would be necessary. Yes, this is illegal and treasonous, but Kissinger is not the evildoer in this respect because he was neither the message-sender nor the message-carrier. Whether or not he would have agreed with it is sort of irrelevant because the fact is that he was not a part of it in a significant way, since Harlow had also provided the information to Nixon. If you're going to say that Kissinger sabotaged the peace talks, you need to provide some hard evidence that he actually told Nixon to do something like that, and not just provide a good guess.
In fact, Kissinger was guaranteed a position in both Humphrey's government and Nixon's government because he was respected by both presidential campaigns, so there is no ulterior motive to "ruin" the Democrats' chances and thus guarantee himself a cabinet position, because he essentially already had the job.
Sabotaging the peace talks didn't necessarily make Vietnam any more dangerous, either. Cease-fires happen all the time and they either result in decades-long instability like what had just happened in Korea and Germany, or they quickly fall apart like what John Kerry's and Hillary Clinton's cease-fires have done in Israel. Of course, no one has any idea which of those two would have happened because it's impossible to predict the future. But in any case if you know anything about Germany or Korea, I'm sure you can see why adding another permanently divided nation to the world would have seemed undesirable to a historically savvy Kissinger.
Roland_Gunner
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Given that Kissinger's family fled the Germany to escape the holocaust and he fought against the Nazis in WWII, its safe to say that his relationship with that era is slightly more complicated that you're making it sound. Kissinger was always about advancing American interests first and when dealing with Israel that meant minimizing the importance of the holocaust. Given that this still defines our relationship, its a reasonable strategic choice, if not a moral one.
gutter_trash
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just heard a live clip; it is damn true. He could win a 3rd term if it was possible
Yoda
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She clearly respects the man for his political aptitude, but that itself is the problem, he's an extreme Machiavellian politician.
Henry Kissinger said:
You have to swallow quite a bit to be willing to be buddies with this guy. But more importantly if she respects such politics, that means she doesn't view it (entirely) as a moral albatross. Foreign policy is a game of picking the least shitty option, but Henry opted to invent options which didn't appear to most men; unfortunately these options resulted in hundreds of thousands of innocents losing their lives.
Seriously. How can you grow up with someone so charismatic and not have some of it rub off on you?
Roland_Gunner
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Comparing Bush now to the 2004 elections is pretty amazing. I legit thought he had some kind of neurological problem then. Turns out being President, is just really, really, really exhausting.
Basileus777
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The state winner gets a bonus too. Depending on vote distribution Trump could win the vast majority of delegates without cracking 40%.
BoboBrazil
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Lol did W tell Jeb not to wear glasses so he could look stronger?
What, when she was in college?
If a third term was possible he'd get slaughtered by Obama.
What were Trump's numbers before the debate? 33% seems high, it's hard to believe he didn't lose more than that going after Bush and praising PP.
Veritigo_X
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Jesus dude, you can't even respond to people's points without deflecting to something else.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Jeb is calling out Trump now. Oh boy. What are you doing.
Dixon's Jet
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He really just needs to choose ONE look. Sometimes he has glasses. Sometimes contacts. It just makes him look disoriented jumping back and forth.
shinra-bansho
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Yeah, so Trump right now seems pretty much set to receive at least the statewide delegates. While the others may not get any depending upon how their support is spread or concentrated.
The state winner gets a bonus too. Depending on vote distribution Trump could win the vast majority of delegates without cracking 40%.
gutter_trash
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or else my big brother will beat you up!
BoboBrazil
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Jeb speaking with more power. His brother seems to have energized him.
titiklabingapat
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Jeb! Bush without the glasses look sorta look like Jim Webb. I just turned on the TV and I was thinking to myself "huh, I guess Jim Webb became full on traitor now".
gutter_trash
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what a bumper sticker
BoboBrazil
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Lol MSNBC cut off the feed a couple of minutes after W stopped speaking.
Dixon's Jet
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Moral grey exists but if we are going to use the term evil we shouldn't be afraid of labeling Kissinger as evil. His mark on the world is such that it isn't a stretch; Kissinger has some disgusting views on the worth of a human life.
By her calculation his views are no barrier to the conversation.
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