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PoliGAF 2016 |OT| Ask us about our performance with Latinos in Nevada

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noshten

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Bill takes his talking points from this forum?

At one point, Clinton likened Sanders and his supporters to the tea party movement, which has taken over and dominated the Republican Party in recent years. Something similar is "going on right now in our party," Clinton said.

"If you don't deal with the fact that we are too politically polarized and we keep rewarding people who tell us things we know we can't do because it pushes their hot buttons, we can't go forward together," he said.
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-bill-clinton-presidents-day-visit-20160215-story.html

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New National Poll reported on MSNBC

Clinton 50
Sanders 40

cartoon_soldier said:
That's too close for Clinton in national poll. Come on Democrats don't fuck this up.
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Its OK Bernie has a ceiling of 45% he would never get beyond that
 
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danm999

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Nobody mention the Quinnipac poll from two weeks ago that had them 2 points apart nationally.

Of course a bunch came out next week having them 20 points apart again. Almost like the race is pretty volatile at the moment.

Wait until SC. If that goes badly you can freak out.
 
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Y2Kev

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cartoon_soldier said:
That's too close for Clinton in national poll. Come on Democrats don't fuck this up.
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OK, you are the new Diablos.

BTW, the poll is +1 Sanders -1 Hillary from last week. Did you freak out last week?

I will now say stop "cartoon_soldiering." I will start with this post. Stop cartoon_soldiering.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/nbc-poll-clinton-maintains-national-lead-after-nh-loss

looks pretty consistent with where it was two weeks ago.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/nbc-surveymonkey-23669

edit: Here, it was 50 to 39.
 
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CCS

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If the amount of diablosing keeps increasing at this rate, this thread is just going to be the word AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH repeated forever by about mid June.
 
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Y2Kev

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Diablos has been hereby released from Webster's Dictionary, but since you can never delete words but simply replace their meaning, he now means to slather something with cheese. Now excuse me while I go diablos some eggs.
 
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CCS

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Y2Kev said:
Diablos has been hereby released from Webster's Dictionary, but since you can never delete words but simply replace their meaning, he now means to slather something with cheese. Now excuse me while I go diablos some eggs.
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My previous post remains valid, for entirely separate reasons :p
 
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OrangeGrayBlue

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Las7 said:
Bill takes his talking points from this forum?



http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-bill-clinton-presidents-day-visit-20160215-story.html

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New National Poll reported on MSNBC

Clinton 50
Sanders 40



Its OK Bernie has a ceiling of 45% he would never get beyond that
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I understand Clinton's point, but I don't think he's the right person to deliver it. When Clinton was intent on "going forward together", we got mass incarceration.

Also, when the right keeps going right, is Bill's suggestion to decrease political polarization even well founded? John Kasich might as well be the dem nominee if decreasing polarization is to be our top priority. Obamacare passed without a single republican vote. It wasn't the result of polarization, it was the result of what democrats would allow and that's a damn shame. We saw what running on moderate credentials got the dems in 2014. When you're up against a party that is resolute in resisting even the most modest compromise, at some point you have to take a stand and say that you're not going to keep taking one step to the right for every two they take. You can only compromise so much before you're doing their work for them.
 
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Black Republican

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look at the favorables of everyone, VA dislikes everyone but Rubio, hes only one with higher Favs than Unfavs

Interestingly in the VA poll 57% of independents and 68% of democrats dont mind Bernie's "Democratic Socialist" label. 90% of GOP hate it obviously
 
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cartoon_soldier

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Y2Kev said:
OK, you are the new Diablos.

BTW, the poll is +1 Sanders -1 Hillary from last week. Did you freak out last week?

I will now say stop "cartoon_soldiering." I will start with this post. Stop cartoon_soldiering.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/nbc-poll-clinton-maintains-national-lead-after-nh-loss

looks pretty consistent with where it was two weeks ago.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/nbc-surveymonkey-23669

edit: Here, it was 50 to 39.
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Yes I diablosed in run up to 2012 too especially after Obama's first debate performance. It's just that everybody forgot...
 
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Elaugaufein

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danm999 said:
Nobody mention the Quinnipac poll from two weeks ago that had them 2 points apart nationally.

Of course a bunch came out next week having them 20 points apart again. Almost like the race is pretty volatile at the moment.

Wait until SC. If that goes badly you can freak out.
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If Clinton loses SC it'll be far to late to freak out.
 
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noshten

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So the PPP Poll is like a huge swing despite lower numbers compared to the other pollsters - Hillary is down -17, while Bernie is up +16. Doesn't appear they have posted the full poll yet.
 
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Roland_Gunner

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Las7 said:
So the PPP Poll is like a huge swing despite lower numbers compared to the other pollsters - Hillary is down -17, while Bernie is up +16. Doesn't appear they have posted the full poll yet.
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Well yeah, I think everyone understands that the race is closer now than it was three months ago.
 
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Kristoffer said:
In order to get the kind of cuts in health care spending that he wants, salaries need to go down. That's really unavoidable. I'm not trying to make you out to be a bad-guy by saying you make "too much", but it's still true that American spending on the health care sector is disproportionately higher than the rest of the world, isn't it? Either salaries stay the way they are or costs come down; there's really no way to choose both.
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I think cost control in higher education is going to have to come first. Medical degrees are somewhere around three times as expensive in the US as they are in Europe. Once we have some new doctors in the pipe that aren't going to be beggared by their educational debt, it'll be easier to set up some avenues of coverage that don't require such high reimbursement rates. It's not something we can just turn around overnight. At least we have a framework for universal coverage now.
 
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Black Republican

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from that PPP
70% think the Confederate flag should still be flying over the State Capital, to only 20% who agree with it being taken down.
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scust

If Kasich/Bush/Carson/Undecideds in SC had to pick 1 of top 3 37% go to Rubio, 19% Trump, 13% Cruz: http://www.
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Rubio is still safe, that "awful debate" didnt kill him

GWB popular in SC- 64/25 fav. But Trump is winning among voters who like him! Trump 26, Cruz 22, Rubio 20, Jeb 10:
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Talk about savage, sheesh
 
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cartoon_soldier

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South Carolina's being an open primary works to Sanders' advantage. Clinton is up 31 with actual Democrats, 60/29, but Sanders cuts a lot into her advantage thanks to a 55/27 lead with the independents planning to vote in the Democratic primary. Some of the other customary big demographic splits we've seen in other places present themselves in South Carolina as well- Sanders is up 45/43 with men and 44/42 with younger voters, but that is more than drowned out by Clinton's 64/25 advantage with women and 70/20 one with seniors.
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Which reminds me, I read that Sanders supporters were calling up Republicans in NV. Because Republicans stop registration on Feb 13th and use that file on polling day. Dems allow it till same day so Republicans can actually vote in both primaries.
 
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NeoXChaos

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Black Republican said:
18-45 is pretty split with Clinton 42%, Sanders 44%, huge difference from Iowa/NH
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He's also up 57/25 with Independents.

South Carolina's being an open primary works to Sanders' advantage. Clinton is up 31 with actual Democrats, 60/29, but Sanders cuts a lot into her advantage thanks to a 55/27 lead with the independents planning to vote in the Democratic primary. Some of the other customary big demographic splits we've seen in other places present themselves in South Carolina as well- Sanders is up 45/43 with men and 44/42 with younger voters, but that is more than drowned out by Clinton's 64/25 advantage with women and 70/20 one with seniors.
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