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PoliGAF 2016 |OT| Ask us about our performance with Latinos in Nevada

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CCS

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She's a millionaire in plural. Pretty sure when she gives herself the luxury to run for Senate and the presidency at the donors expense you know you made it.

True I guess, I just can't get over how badly she fucked up at HP and still managed a presidential run :p
 

Ophelion

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Just ask Google.

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Well, that's one mystery solved.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
I think it serves its purpose but... what's with the faux Morgan Freeman? They should've just paid for the real deal.

I know this is from a few pages back, but the captions on the video on Clinton's twitter specifically say it is Morgan freeman:

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The Bernie campaign is starting to lose me with this transcript stuff. I'm not super interested and the supporters are going nuts about it. For a campaign supposedly about "the issues", this is an issue I don't connect with.
 

Bowdz

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Halperin and Heilman are pretty bullish on Bernie in Nevada. Both said they've got the feeling on the ground that Bernie not only has the momentum, but that it is his to lose.

I swear, tomorrow is going to be like Iowa for both sides. Bernie and Rubio outperforming and Hilldawg and The Golden One underperforming.
 

Crocodile

Member
400 million dollars.

Is Trump hurting for cash? I have to assume that even after spending money (not even a lot though) and losing business deals from this campaign that the man is still set for life. The optics of paying someone not to run is so fucking bad for the GOP I can't imagine Trump's ego wouldn't take over.
 
If Connecticut were a swing state, I bet Linda would've won.
Yup. All that money and no one was able to tell her she probably would have had a better chance parachuting into a different state.

Carpetbagging, you say? Scott Brown almost won a Senate seat last election in a totally different state from which he was previously a Senator just two years prior.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I'm OK with that. Though I do get why the Intercept isn't the biggest fan of HRC and Obama...those two do more or less want to execute someone who they believe did the right thing.

I get it too, but at the same time they allow that to color everything they write and publish.
 

ivysaur12

Banned
Halperin and Heilman are pretty bullish on Bernie in Nevada. Both said they've got the feeling on the ground that Bernie not only has the momentum, but that it is his to lose.

I swear, tomorrow is going to be like Iowa for both sides. Bernie and Rubio outperforming and Hilldawg and The Golden One underperforming.

I feel like a lot of the "feeling" on the ground might not necessarily translate into who goes to caucus, especially with a dearth of polling and the terrible organization on the Bernie side.

If Bernie wins, that's huge for him. His organization in Nevada sucks and it'd be crazy if he pulled it off.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
Is Trump hurting for cash? I have to assume that even after spending money (not even a lot though) and losing business deals from this campaign that the man is still set for life. The optics of paying someone not to run is so fucking bad for the GOP I can't imagine Trump's ego wouldn't take over.

He's probably not hurting, but the dude is about making money and cutting the best deal. That's a pretty good deal to cut. Plus, he'd get to hose the RNC one last time on his way out. Make a crap ton of money and screw the people who screwed him. Sounds like a Trump move.
 

ivysaur12

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Yup. All that money and no one was able to tell her she probably would have had a better chance parachuting into a different state.

Carpetbagging, you say? Scott Brown almost won a Senate seat last election in a totally different state from which he was previously a Senator just two years prior.

Those types of candidates don't work in a Connecticut or a Kentucky. You need someone home grown with a great personality that matches the state for an upset win. See: Heidi Heitkamp.
 

NeoXChaos

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I feel like a lot of the "feeling" on the ground might not necessarily translate into who goes to caucus, especially with a dearth of polling and the terrible organization on the Bernie side.

If Bernie wins, that's huge for him. His organization in Nevada sucks and it'd be crazy if he pulled it off.

Seems like a stretch to me on "his to lose"
 

CCS

Banned
I keep forgetting that Carson is still in the race. I think we can all agree that whoever gets the nomination, he is the real winner, for managing to maintain some level of support after adamantly claiming he assaulted his mother with a hammer.
 
Those types of candidates don't work in a Connecticut or a Kentucky. You need someone home grown with a great personality that matches the state for an upset win. See: Heidi Heitkamp.
I was so happy when Heitkamp won.

Mainly because I was counting on Shelly Berkely winning Nevada, so it canceled out. Although Berkely would have been a more solid liberal vote, I'm sure.

Not like any substantial legislation has made its way through Congress since that election anyway.
 

NeoXChaos

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Exactly. I think Bernie's team is doing a huge disservice to their candidate by building up expectations in Nevada.

If your hillary you have to feel more confident about tomorrow unless you think you collapsed in minority support in NV. SC tells me they should be fine in NV as long as her Latino and AA vote holds and turnout is big in that department.
 

ivysaur12

Banned
I was so happy when Heitkamp won.

Mainly because I was counting on Shelly Berkely winning Nevada, so it canceled out. Although Berkely would have been a more solid liberal vote, I'm sure.

Not like any substantial legislation has made its way through Congress since that election anyway.

Yeah, but...

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QUEENS OF THE NORTH
 
All I know is that I read Nate say the other day that predicting the Nevada Caucus right now is a fool's errand and you're basically taking a 50/50 chance of being right.
 

CCS

Banned
So The Last Leg (fantastic British comedy TV show) are currently doing a poll on who would win in a fight Between Trump and the Pope. My money's on the Pope.
 

Iolo

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I feel like a lot of the "feeling" on the ground might not necessarily translate into who goes to caucus, especially with a dearth of polling and the terrible organization on the Bernie side.

If Bernie wins, that's huge for him. His organization in Nevada sucks and it'd be crazy if he pulled it off.

Maybe organization is only worth 5 points though and can be dwarfed by "enthusiasm"/new voters. I'm not convinced his org sucks anymore either. All will be clear in 24 hours...
 
Linda McMahon spent $97 million on two failed Senate races.

She spent $47 million in the 2012 race, which up to that point was the most any one person had spent on their own race to gain federal office.


These kinds of things always make me wonder how those people intend to make the venture profitable.
 

Y2Kev

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Maybe organization is only worth 5 points though and can be dwarfed by "enthusiasm"/new voters. I'm not convinced his org sucks anymore either. All will be clear in 24 hours...

I agree (and I would sooner poke myself in the eye than listen to those two hacks), but 5 points seems like a ton to me.
 

Bowdz

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Maybe organization is only worth 5 points though and can be dwarfed by "enthusiasm"/new voters. I'm not convinced his org sucks anymore either. All will be clear in 24 hours...

Agreed.

I just think back to IA where Clinton had what was almost universally accepted to be one of the best ground games/organizations in the state and yet she only eeked out a .2% win. Yes, IA is demographically more advantageous to Bernie, but I don't see any indication that Bernie is as disadvantaged in NV as people have made him out to be. He has enthusiasm and a shitton of money, which can go a long way in almost any contest.

Here's to hoping Mook's magic is still alive.
 

Iolo

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Agreed.

I just think back to IA where Clinton had what was almost universally accepted to be one of the best ground games/organizations in the state and yet she only eeked out a .2% win. Yes, IA is demographically more advantageous to Bernie, but I don't see any indication that Bernie is as disadvantaged in NV as people have made him out to be. He has enthusiasm and a shitton of money, which can go a long way in almost any contest.

Here's to hoping Mook's magic is still alive.

It's conceivable Hillary could lose the popular vote but win the delegate count like Obama did due to superior organization. Of course only the popular vote matters /s
 

NeoXChaos

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Agreed.

I just think back to IA where Clinton had what was almost universally accepted to be one of the best ground games/organizations in the state and yet she only eeked out a .2% win. Yes, IA is demographically more advantageous to Bernie, but I don't see any indication that Bernie is as disadvantaged in NV as people have made him out to be. He has enthusiasm and a shitton of money, which can go a long way in almost any contest.

Here's to hoping Mook's magic is still alive.

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Media seems to not call Bernie out on any of the Obama/Hillary or Killer Mike uterus stuff. They just ignore it. Atleast on MSNBC, CNN, or Fox News.
 
I need a new avatar guys. I got this one for real pic January and haven't bothered changing it back. Wanna guess the Nevada results and who ever's closest gets to pick my replacement? I'll keep it for at least 2 weeks.

I think it'll be 50.8-49.2 Sanders.

50 Clinton - 50 Sanders

55-45 Hillary idk, it's a closed caucus.

3.7 points in favor of Clinton.

56 Clinton, 44 Sanders

56 Sanders, 54 Clinton

Still saying 52-48. % should equal 100 because there's just two people to caucus for (unless uncommitted does really well for some reason).

Sanders 52 Clinton 48.

420 Sanders, 69 Clinton

52-48 in favor of the Butcher of Benghazi

I'm going 53-47 Hillary to Bernie.

50.5 - 49.5 Hillary

Hillary will win this by at least a five point margin, otherwise she might as well lose.

55-45 Hilldawg

Sandman Bernith by 2 pts.

May the best person win!
 
I refuse to prognosticate on the results of an election in which I have no ability to vote.

Therefore, let us discuss the implications of Socialist Grandpa and Jeb! Big Mess Bush being the nominee in a state like Virginia.

GO.

Please my queen, please win tomorrow. For me?
 

Teggy

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Will we start getting real Super Tuesday polling after tomorrow? It's not exactly far off. I really want to see what's going on here in MA.
 

CCS

Banned
So The Last Leg (fantastic British comedy TV show) are currently doing a poll on who would win in a fight Between Trump and the Pope. My money's on the Pope.

Update: 93% say the Pope would win. Britain is best nation confirmed.
 
What's the Clyburn fallout in the Twittersphere? How big is the bus?
Remember pre Iowa how there were reports that the timing of the caucus would keep the youth turnout low because they were at college and not back at home?
I thought youth turnout was notably down from 2008. Although turnout overall was down.
Isn't this basically voter fraud?
Apparently since it's not actually a state-run process it isn't voter fraud, but I don't know what sad sack would actually bother to do it.
 
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