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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic

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QPac:

Florida; Rubio=48, Murphy(D)=44
NC: Ross(D)=46, Burr(D)=46
Ohio: Portman(R)=55, Strickland(D)=38
Florida: Toomey(R)=50, McGinty(D)=42

Bad poll for McGinty.

Murphy still trails by 6-7 points in the aggregate polls even though Rubio was the worst politician out of the 16 that lost to Donald Trump, just sad.
 

Bronx-Man

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QPac:

Florida; Rubio=48, Murphy(D)=44
NC: Ross(D)=46, Burr(D)=46
Ohio: Portman(R)=55, Strickland(D)=38
Florida: Toomey(R)=50, McGinty(D)=42

Bad poll for McGinty.

Murphy still trails by 6-7 points in the aggregate polls even though Rubio was the worst politician out of the 16 that lost to Donald Trump, just sad.
Damn, still neck & neck in NC. I think Hillary & Cooper's leads could help with Deb though.
 

Grief.exe

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QPac:

Florida; Rubio=48, Murphy(D)=44
NC: Ross(D)=46, Burr(D)=46
Ohio: Portman(R)=55, Strickland(D)=38
Florida: Toomey(R)=50, McGinty(D)=42

Bad poll for McGinty.

Murphy still trails by 6-7 points in the aggregate polls even though Rubio was the worst politician out of the 16 that lost to Donald Trump, just sad.

QPac always ends up as +R leaning as it generally finds the country to be a higher percentage of the white population than reality.
Their numbers in the Democrat primary were frequently well off reality since Bernie would benefit from white voters.
 
Rubio had nine months to find out that Trump was running a fake charity and probably was committing tax evasion.

Failed miserably and got owned by even Chris Christie who has been reduced to a puddle now.

And Patrick Murphy still can't beat him.

Sad.
 
Asking again from the last thread:

What exactly happened in Ohio over the last few months to turn it so red? There was a time where Clinton led consistently or at least tied and Strickland wasn't completely dead
 

Cyanity

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Mmmm, got that fresh thread smell. Things are looking UP today, GAF.


edit - we got through the last OT in 9 days. At this rate, we're gonna have ~four more OTs before the general. Crazy.
 
Asking again from the last thread:

What exactly happened in Ohio over the last few months to turn it so red? There was a time where Clinton led consistently or at least tied and Strickland wasn't completely dead

There's this idea that it's the GOP's rejection of free trade among the media.

Except for the fact that Portman adores free trade.

So... IDK.
 
I would be really annoyed if McGinty started to struggle. However, the last 3 polls are Toomey +8, Tied, McGinty +6. Someone is wrong.

(I bet it's a 1-2 point race)
 

Holmes

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My cousin-in-law is having a costume birthday party for his one year old son. His (latina) mother said she should dress up as Hillary Clinton.

I thought I should crash the party and turn it into a GOTV operation. Set up a phone bank and bring spreadsheets of voters in Ohio.
 

Grief.exe

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Asking again from the last thread:

What exactly happened in Ohio over the last few months to turn it so red? There was a time where Clinton led consistently or at least tied and Strickland wasn't completely dead

Ohio is nearly in the bottom ten states in the country for people with bachelor's degrees, and also has a disproportionately higher percentage of white population than the rest of the country.
Compare that to places like Colorado, Virginia, and New Hampshire which are all in the top ten in the country for people with Bachelor's Degrees, and, at least in the cases of Colorado and Virginia, more diverse populations than Ohio (not sure about NH). Hillary is taking advantage of the continued loss of educated white voters in the Republican party, while Trump is taking advantage of his own electoral advantages in uneducated white voters and a less diverse population. I very much doubt Ohio will be the important swing state it once was.

That would explain why Ohio is basically impossible for Hillary to win, but not why the polls were once showing Hillary in favor in the state. My only guess is the polling was inaccurate. I don't see those demographics ever being in the Clinton column in this election.

Highly doubt those PA numbers are on the mark. Certainly no one is treating it like he has an 8 point lead.

I think the most encouraging thing about that QPac is that the Florida and North Carolina Senate races are so close in an R leaning poll.

If Hillary takes those states, we could see some huge Democrat gains.
 

Cyanity

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"NSA contractor arrested for allegedly compromising highly classified computer codes, CBS News has confirmed."

Any news on this?
 

Grief.exe

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Mark Murray ‏@mmurraypolitics 6m6 minutes ago

If Clinton is ahead by 5-6pts nationally, being +2 in Ohio makes sense to me
 

Holmes

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But yeah, Strickland sucks. Oh well. If ticket splitting makes some voters in Ohio more open to voting for Clinton then so be it.
 
This election's going to be a landslide, isn't it?

I sure hope so. Of course, you have to adjust the definition of a landslide. Winning about 340 votes would be a Hillary landslide, which is around what Obama won both times. We'll never see another mega landslide like 1964, 1972, 1984 etc. again because of partisanship. Trump has proven you can put any idiot on the ballot and about half of the states would vote for him or her. David Duke could be the nominee and the deep south and most western states would vote for him.
 
What sucks is that Portman benefits tremendously by standing next to Kasich who has denounced Trump. Strickland has no play here, unlike Hassan and Ross. He can't tie Trump to anyone.
 

Holmes

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How Brown performs will depend a lot on his opponent and the national mood. There's no doubt that 2018 will be more Republican than normal but we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. Remember a year ago Ohio was going to be a Democratic pickup and North Carolina and Missouri were completely off the map.
 
your state is trending Republican . You've won 1! race for Governor 1986 and that was 2006.
Sherrod Brown is incredibly well liked. He has deep union and blue collar support, something Strickland has not been able to replicate.The only person who would possibly be able to challenge Strickland is Kasich, and I don't think he wants to be Senator.

Sherrod Brown will be fine.
 
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