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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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Makai

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Just a note-Clinton's team turned out and did everything they set out to do. Maybe there was some stumbles in OH but everywhere else was right on marker.

Don't go heaping this on her or her team. They did what the needed to do .
 
I wouldn't assume that any of Trump's actual policy priorities will be the first up in the Republican congress. I mean sure, they'll repeal Obamacare, but the party elite still controls the majority of house and senate members and will at least focus on policies we are familiar with, even if they are still bad ones.

Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin will be able to do whatever he wants in Europe. Who knows what we'll end up doing in the Middle East, but I'm assuming it won't be good.
 
Prior to this, we all really thought we were the majority, you know? That there were actually enough cosmopolitan urbanites and minorities to overmatch the rural white vote. That the only reason we didn't have the House as well as the Senate was because of little tricks and lies like gerrymandering.

We were wrong. There's more of them than us, and at the end of the day, this, this disgusting excuse for a man, is what they needed to make themselves known.
 

Owzers

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I would like to thank the media for both sidesing for a year and normalizing a bigoted pathological liar because of emails. Those emails...those emails were the worst.
 

smurfx

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With this, the Supreme Court is lost for deacdes
that's what really hurts the most. she had the chance to flip it liberal for the next couple of decades but instead it will all go back to being conservative and we will keep seeing republicans erode voting rights and keeping themselves in power for the foreseeable future.
 

Crosseyes

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It should had been Bernie Sanders. And you all knew it.
It really should have. What America really needed was the advent of a New New Deal.

Instead you got the wanna be dictator placing blame on minorities and the educated.

We have history as a guide for what happens when the latter wins.
 

Tubie

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There's no way to know if Bernie would've done any better. He has a completely different set of weaknesses Trump could've exploited.

Maybe this was inevitable either way, looking at how massively rural and working class voters came out for Trump makes me think this way.
 
Bernie would've had this so easily and that you + Hillary people can't understand why is the reason she's losing now.

You literally can't know this. Clinton didn't go after Sanders during the primary. He's never been touched at all by anyone because there wasn't a reason for it. Even we've seen anything tonight its that people don't want socialism and egalitarianism. They want the 1950's back with straight, white men ruling the world.
 

Debirudog

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Last post I'll make; I'm pretty much done here. I didn't realize that the U.S. would freak out that much about a black dude running the country for a little while.

I thank you guys for posting, but after such a massive polling failure that indicates that a bunch of white people who hate me will run everything and destroy whatever of my rights that they can, I am pretty hopeless right now.

God bless y'all.

Oh god, I hope nothing truly terrible would come to you. I'm devestated right now.
 

Barzul

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Looks like having a dick is way more important than I anticipated. I'm sorry I know we're trashing the Bernie guys but I cannot see him being this close in MI and WI. He'd be running away with it.
 
Hate, lies, fear.....

America will not survive this. Not in the long run. This is the descent for the planet really. Forget about climate change. Progressives can forget about everything for decades.

The worst of us won.

Please let Hillary pull through.
 
Bernie Sanders lost the primary by million of votes. If there was some mythical better candidate, I don't believe he was the one.

Bernie Sanders won all the demographics that are giving Trump the winning edge. We knew this since Iowa. The craving for a foreigner was obvious. And yet liberals denied this reality.
 

Makai

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Looks like having a dick is way more important than I anticipated. I'm sorry I know we're trashing the Bernie guys but I cannot see him being this close in MI and WI. He'd be running away with it.
Hillary is also the most liberal candidate in a long time. That is important.
 
All this Hillary blaming is ridiculous. The way that a candidate like Trump can win mean competency means nothing. Why would you want to win a race where the way to win is to be a demagogue. The western world has to take a real hard look at democracy.

Blaming Hillary or even Obama is ridiculous this is a bunch racist Homophobic people that hates the progress in this country.
 
There's no way to know if Bernie would've done any better. He has a completely different set of weaknesses Trump could've exploited.

Maybe this was inevitable either way, looking at how massively rural and working class voters came out for Trump makes me think this way.

I'm skeptical if he loses white voters nearly as badly as Clinton, but then again, I'm also skeptical if he saw huge turnouts among minorities.
 
Thinking Bernie would have done better really confuses me.

Trump is literally winning because of record turnout from rural voters that no one saw coming. What the hell was Bernie going to do to those voters?
 

Totakeke

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My last post ended at the end of the page, but again, blaming Hillary or her team is ridiculous.

Think about the race, and think about how you would design a perfect candidate to win this race. That perfect candidate would still be a demagogue and shit. How would you be proud of nation that elects a person like that is beyond me.
 
I just turned my TV off. I can't take this anymore.

I've lost all faith in this country. Tomorrow, I have to go to work, putting a uniform that represents the country that I used to love.

I can't do it anymore. I'm in tears as I type this.

I turned off my TV in 2000 and woke up to some surreal fuckery , I mean it still turned up like shit but man it was one wild ride.
 

Angry Fork

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All the people upset at my posts, I say all of it as a poor person who may lose out on health coverage under a Republican 3-way administration. College pell grant funding might be axed. I work with people who are undocumented immigrants, I don't believe in borders and think we should give them citizenship.

Hillary would've been a better option than Trump no fucking doubt about it if only to maintain whatever positive achievements of Obama's presidency. However Bernie people tried to explain why it mattered to have him as the nominee, beyond just all the rosey optimistic shit. It's because he WAS the more "pragmatic" candidate, because he got potential Trump voters who recognized Bernie as a populist, anti-establishment candidate.

If the dems don't purge the corrupt and wall street elements of the party (aka the Clintonites) ASAP then they're not gaining anything. But dude's like Paul Krugman are already blaming Jill Stein of all people (???).
 
Bernie clearly did better in all the national polls against Trump and better than Hillary against Trump. Sanders was the winning message and the DNC shouldn't have pushed her through.
 
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