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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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zero_suit

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Why is so much of the Internet against Hillary ? I mean I know the joke about neckbeards spending their lives on 4chan and whatever, but whatever the region of the Internet, if it's an article or tweet or video against or for Hillary - the comments are overwhelmingly full of Hillary hate (except perhaps nytimes comments - which for whatever reason they leave alone ).

Bought into several decades of lies from the GOP, sexism, and a lot of the same people despise Obama.
 
Elise Foley of HuffPost has done a state-by-state chart of when polls and bars typically close in each state:

She's wrong on Ohio. ALL bars can serve until 2:30am except for a few that have an ancient 1am license that they haven't bothered to update. No bar is forced to stop serving at 2am.

I can drink until 4am at my neighborhood bar, just not legally. ;)
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Elise Foley of HuffPost has done a state-by-state chart of when polls and bars typically close in each state:
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(Fun fact: I didn't know what "last call" was until I left Louisiana to go to college elsewhere..)

Texas is city by city and some counties (and cities) are "dry" or "moist".

Most *major* cities are 2 AM.
 

Cepheus

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Why is so much of the Internet against Hillary ? I mean I know the joke about neckbeards spending their lives on 4chan and whatever, but whatever the region of the Internet, if it's an article or tweet or video against or for Hillary - the comments are overwhelmingly full of Hillary hate (except perhaps nytimes comments - which for whatever reason they leave alone ).

Racists like to get their points of view across in any way possible. It's their duty to try and ram their rhetoric down other people's throats. It probably gives them pride in doing it. So, naturally, internet comments sections are full of them, even the ones where you have to use a Facebook account to post.
 
PoliGAF what's a good resource for researching the California propositions? I have my absentee ballot but I've been procrastinating because I have no idea which props are good and which are shit.
 

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Elise Foley of HuffPost has done a state-by-state chart of when polls and bars typically close in each state:
CwsXyxRXgAItrK5.jpg:large


(Fun fact: I didn't know what "last call" was until I left Louisiana to go to college elsewhere..)

Shit, North Carolina must be pretty damn amped to still fuck over the GOP after all their horseshit
 

thebloo

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For this reason, the Huffington Post claim that FiveThirtyEight is biased toward Trump is probably wrong. It’s not that they like Trump – it’s that they are biased away from the frontrunner, whoever that is at any given moment. And this year, the frontrunner happens to be Hillary Clinton.

And then there is the question of why the FiveThirtyEight forecast has been so volatile. This may have to do with their use of national polls to compensate for the slowness of state polls to arrive. Because state opinion only correlates partially with national opinion, there is a risk of overcorrection. Think of it as oversteering a boat or a car.

This is a good section from Wang.
 

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Why is so much of the Internet against Hillary ? I mean I know the joke about neckbeards spending their lives on 4chan and whatever, but whatever the region of the Internet, if it's an article or tweet or video against or for Hillary - the comments are overwhelmingly full of Hillary hate (except perhaps nytimes comments - which for whatever reason they leave alone ).

Dudes
 
My dude, where did you grow up? I was raised in Grand Rapids.

North Muskegon.

Also, your username is great.

Looking at where Clinton is specifically, she's midway between GR and Muskegon, at GVSU. That could rally people from both those metro areas, although I would have expected triangulating GR/K-zoo/Battle Creek to be more effective.
 

HylianTom

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Texas is city by city and some counties (and cities) are "dry" or "moist".

Most *major* cities are 2 AM.

She's already being corrected in the responses, lol..

I'm still amused at the whole wet/dry county thing - gives me flashbacks to when I was living in MS and had to drive to the county line to get to a package store.
 

Wallach

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Why is so much of the Internet against Hillary ? I mean I know the joke about neckbeards spending their lives on 4chan and whatever, but whatever the region of the Internet, if it's an article or tweet or video against or for Hillary - the comments are overwhelmingly full of Hillary hate (except perhaps nytimes comments - which for whatever reason they leave alone ).

there is actually a pretty large and coordinated internet troll campaign out of russia doing a lot of that

combined with the real trolls that we have here in the states who are too stupid to know better they get around
 

Revolver

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I didn't realize WaPo did a round up of who received the most 4 Pinocchios during the campaign. No surprise Trump ended up with 59 compared to Hillary's 7. Yet she's the untrustworthy candidate.
 

Nafai1123

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No bedwetting, but I am feeling physically ill today. I think the stress of this election is catching up to me. Can't fucking wait for this all to be over.
 

Tobor

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Only question left:

What time tomorrow does Trump reclaim his Twitter account and go on a tirade. 6PM? 7? No way does he last to the west coast polls closing.
 

sazzy

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New data: Huge 37% increase in Northern Virginia early voting vs 2012. Join @HillaryforVA in the final push.
 

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PoliGAF what's a good resource for researching the California propositions? I have my absentee ballot but I've been procrastinating because I have no idea which props are good and which are shit.

Did they mail you a voter's guide (big brochure/handbook)? I pored over that thing over the last month; it's dog-eared.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
The tracking poll is garbage but ignoring that. Do you actually think a one point movement in two consecutive polls from a pollster constitutes a trendzline?

The Upshot hasn't shifted from the 84 it declined to after a speight of tighter but still Clinton lead polls. It didn't dip below 84 afaik. So I don't know where you're getting improving chances from.

What the 538 national polling tracker shows is that Trump tightened the race by about 4 whole points from late october into the beginning of November. since then, the race has been pretty flat, and a poll drop today showed maybe just over a half a point gain in Clinton's favor from the day before. Now you can't really call this solid trend yet, since really we're looking at a reversal of movement within a span of basically a single day, but we already saw that the Trump rise trend that caused 538 to dip into the 60% range for Clinton did stop.

My point here is that there is some subtle movement in the polls that would cause a more volatile model like Silver's to show a slight upswing in Clinton's direction. RCP's polling average graph is showing a much more dramatic reversal today. I want to try and dispel the notion that Silver is necessarily manually poking his model back to Clinton as a response to criticism rather than his model just being his model.

I have no idea if Silver's model is perfect or not. Honestly all of the models are making unscientific assumptions to some extent. And even when models are wrong they can be wrong in very subtle ways. And we have no possible way to check for the correctness of polling and prediction models within the middle of a race because the entire population votes only once.

More than anything, you might see me "defend" 538 here more often than other posters is because 1) I don't think Nate being a bad pundit really has any bearing on whether or not his prediction model is good or not and 2) some people in PoliGAF seems very eager to dismiss polls or methodologies that do not favor Clinton. If anybody thinks they're immune from confirmation bias, they are dead wrong.
 

thebloo

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Speaking of Votecastr, what exactly is going to start showing up in 11 and a half hours when it launches?

The exit polls of the 50 old people from Florida that want to MAGA. Prepare for dampness.


Edit: You'd think a mod was more tech-savvy. We are truly on Hillary's forum.
 

Vahagn

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Why is so much of the Internet against Hillary ? I mean I know the joke about neckbeards spending their lives on 4chan and whatever, but whatever the region of the Internet, if it's an article or tweet or video against or for Hillary - the comments are overwhelmingly full of Hillary hate (except perhaps nytimes comments - which for whatever reason they leave alone ).

There's this Samantha Bee spot you should watch
 
Wait. Are you not even American?!

Nope.

Biggest bombshell of this election.

US citizen living/working in India, I think?

Nope. Indian citizen.


HES THE IMPOSTOR

I think a few threads back I have said my story and why I am so into this election. I lived in US for 12 years, starting in Chicago in 2006. So very soft spot for Obama.

Volunteered for him in NC.

I still work for a US company from India, so also have a very big interest in what happens. Visit 2-3 times a year. Might move back too.

Don't underestimate the so many immigrants who aren't citizens that live or depend on US economy directly and how much the Presidential Election affects us.

And I mean my daiykos name was Obama Soldier. Can't have Trump win after that :)
 

Wallach

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the jeb electoral map cannot be beaten, thank you 2016 for giving me that meme at least

whoever took that image of jeb did the entire internet a favor seriously, like what was he actually doing in that picture if not powering up by receiving the transmitted power of all of america
 
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