We got this in 2008.
Vague and subjective.
Don't worry, all of our trade deals so far have been great for American working people. Our future ones will probably follow this trend.
This is the ideological stuff that we're talking about. How can you objectively and consistently judge this? What qualifies as a corporation? Anything with limited liability? My father has a two-person corporation. If he gives money to a candidate, is he a scumbag? This sounds like just a blank check to hate every candidate and agitate constantly for MORE PURITY. Which is exactly what the Tea Party did and how they helped corrode the GOP into nothingness.
I want massive campaign finance reform with publicly financed elections, and I don't think we'll get that until we have a candidate who doesn't owe huge favors to corporate America.
I don't trust Hillary at all on this. I just don't. And Obama? I'm just not going to get into it. I've been happy with his approach to foreign policy. He's a good person. I can't say he's been a bad president. But there have been great disappointments. I guess I'm pretty much with TYT on Obama.
My mother owns a corporation too, and I've basically been self employed in one way or another for my entire life.. I understand that all business people aren't inherently bad. But the ones at the very top have been stealing from everybody else for a long time, and they've rigged everything so that it works in their favor.
I'm ready to join with the mob, and we can get the pitchforks out and take some of that money back.
As for your pro-trade stance, I'm sorry, but you'll never convince me. I've seen with my own eyes that free trade is bad for poor Americans. It just is. I live in Georgia, and in the 1980s and early 90s people used to do just fine working in manufacturing and textile factories. Things were just fine then. We didn't need free trade. Everything started going to hell almost immediately after NAFTA was signed.
Now many of the people that used to work in factories making decent money are working at Walmart, or McDonald's, or they don't work at all, and they live in trailer-parks and they're in terrible debt, and they've lost their houses. Their kids are too poor to move out, so you have whole families of grown people living together, all of them being subsidized on foodstamps because they couldn't eat otherwise. Even if they went and got a better education, there are no jobs to replace the old ones except for shitty service industry bullshit. Even the tech industry jobs are being outsourced whenever it's possible to do so. Maybe if they lived in another state they would have more options, but it's not easy to relocate. Not when you're poor as dirt.
You'll never convince me that free trade has been anything but a disaster. Maybe in a global sense there's some advantage in a long-term kind of way, but I'm talking about immediate issues on the ground in America, in the places that got the shitty end of the deal. It's been awful. And nobody cares. All the politicians in both parties like to pretend it isn't even happening. I have no patience with them anymore.
