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PoliGAF 2016 |OT3| You know what they say about big Michigans - big Florida

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B-Dubs said:
We were never fully capitalist. 100% capitalism is unsustainable, it needs to be mixed with some socialism. Just like 100% socialism doesn't work or 100% communism won't work. Absolutes of any kind will tend to fall apart over time, you gotta mix it all up.

Also, keep in mind that by making it easier to sell overseas it helps keep those manufacturing jobs here. Otherwise it would make more sense to just open a factory in the place you want to sell to instead of making it here and shipping it out.

ExIm Bank has it's place, but you are right that we should be spending more on infrastructure as well. Just remember that the ExIm is a net profit for the government, so any money we lend to it just comes back to us with interest.
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Kinda. The best way to think about what Exim does is to think about a cosigner on a loan. Exim is mostly making loans possible for borrowers in local markets that would pay out the ass for USD. Export credit agencies are hugely popular in Latin America. Boeing doesn't really need the US gubmint to help it out with the capital markets; it has a full standalone capital structure at extremely low interest rates driven by its great investment grade credit profile. However, imagine you were selling to like some company in Brazil or a Korean development bank or something. They would be borrowing at crap rates; Exim takes substantially all (or even all) the risk off the table by guaranteeing the loan.

There's no question it drives the exporter's sales, and the exporter could be forced to take the credit risk themselves or forego the sale if CORPORATE WELFARE wasn't at play.

But practically we are stuck. I've read some interesting game theory papers on this. If you think about it, if we're going head to head with Le France and they're supporting Airbus, if they offer $1 of support more than Exim does, Boeing can't make the bid and will bow out. Airbus could get $1 of support and win! So it's like rational actors have to ante up or else the playing field will be so unlevel that blah blah.

I'm all for helping the little guy. But there's NOOOO REASON in MURKA we can't support our people (not with free college, piss off poors) AND support a program that returns capital to the treasury every year and helps our corporations. I have no idea why everything is so US or THEM in this country. We can do both. We just need to cut the military.

And we also need to cut Marco Rubio.
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Thanks for these responses. Gave me much to think about.
 
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as bad Trump baits to worst clowns; he did America a favor by eliminated not one but two Neocon scum

the more Rubio talks, the more I hate him than Cruz.

can't wait for Donald to dominate the Sunshine State come Tuesday

bye Rubio
 
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VendettaRed07

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Supreme Court Justices should be appointed for life. Completely disagree with him here. They should be appointed and then completely free from political pressure, influence, or backlash.
 
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SlimySnake said:
god i have come to hate that word in this election. if you dont want to be part of the establishment, dont run for mother fucking president of the establishment. stay home and jerk off to furry porn.
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Surely there is room for demarcation between outsider politics and .. furry onanistic activity
 
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Holmes said:
I'm against term limits, even for Presidents. Probably the Canadian in me.
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I am fine with no term limits in a parliamentary system like Canada or the UK. But not for the US. Our system, two terms and your done makes more sense. Too much power will gravitate towards the executive if someone could keep running.

I also believe in honoring George Washington's precedent of deciding not to run again.
 
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There.

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No need to watch!
 
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One thing I hate about Bernie is how he won't say anything nice about Hillary. Often she will say nice or supportive things such as calling him a friend. Bernie does nothing if the sort. I think he really hates her.
 
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Diablos said:
One thing I hate about Bernie is how he won't say anything nice about Hillary. Often she will say nice or supportive things such as calling him a friend. Bernie dies nothing if the sort. I think he really hates her.
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He wants to win and he's way behind. He doesn't have any slack.
 
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Diablos said:
One thing I hate about Bernie is how he won't say anything nice about Hillary. Often she will say nice or supportive things such as calling him a friend. Bernie dies nothing if the sort. I think he really hates her.
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He was more willing to do so when he wasn't in striking position. Both of them are quite willing to say the other is preferable to any Republican and I don't doubt their sincerity.
 
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