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Lorna Doones are superior to Trefoils.
Trump: Has anyone ever had more spent on them on negative ads?
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT3| You know what they say about big Michigans - big Florida
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Lorna Doones are superior to Trefoils.
Trump: Has anyone ever had more spent on them on negative ads?
Coriolanus
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Try to convince her that people just call youtube 'tube.
Everyone but the left of the left (ok so Rachel Maddow) knew that would happen. Even spewbio went back to the bullshit about divisive Obama.
User 463088
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The other day she ended up on "a very naughty site" because I didn't have the YouTube app on her phone where she could find it easily. I'm terrified she's going to want to discuss what she may have seen. I mean, I'm guessing it's not worse than Grindr....
Cesare Borgia
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#HistoryByHillary is trending on twitter right now. Hilarious.
Avon Barksdale
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As goes the Chicago cab driver, as goes the Nation.
There are several worries about getting the Democratic electorate out to vote.
The Democratic primary turnout has been very low so far, often lower than 2008/2012. Couple that with a potential Presidential candidate in Hillary with high unfavorables and you may have a problem. Especially with the general population being less than excited or lukewarm in their perceptions towards Hillary.
That seems like a reasonable position and I told my wife something similar yesterday.
I feel like this weekend is doing a lot to make this election Trump versus Sanders.
On an ideological level, that makes sense. Both men represent the extreme fringes of their parties. This clash was bound to happen.
But whereas Trump is doing this with the support of the right as the legitimate frontrunner, Bernie Sanders is not. The ass whooping Hillary has been providing Bernie has been overwhelming and painful.
Makes me wonder what the shift is going to be like when people realize that Bernie is not the Democratic nominee.
Besides Trump, I'm trying to figure out who wins here.
On an ideological level, that makes sense. Both men represent the extreme fringes of their parties. This clash was bound to happen.
But whereas Trump is doing this with the support of the right as the legitimate frontrunner, Bernie Sanders is not. The ass whooping Hillary has been providing Bernie has been overwhelming and painful.
Makes me wonder what the shift is going to be like when people realize that Bernie is not the Democratic nominee.
Besides Trump, I'm trying to figure out who wins here.
Bam Bam Baklava
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#WhichHillary really hurt her with black voters in those Southern states.
User 463088
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Blue shirt Trump bro can get it. Seriously. Except i'm taken, but damn, he could get the digits.
I'm not sure that the protesters being labeled Berniebros hurts anyone. I doubt that persuades people one way or the other on the Democratic side. It's just easier for Trump to tie them to Bernie than Hillary.
Us Hillary supporters are too busy smoking $100 bills and using cleverly applied makeup to cover our reptilian scales to go protest like that.
I'm not sure that the protesters being labeled Berniebros hurts anyone. I doubt that persuades people one way or the other on the Democratic side. It's just easier for Trump to tie them to Bernie than Hillary.
Us Hillary supporters are too busy smoking $100 bills and using cleverly applied makeup to cover our reptilian scales to go protest like that.
Black Republican
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When the gop says Obama stroked racial fears, what event was this? They never give examples.
Please dont tell me they're still upset over the "police acted stupidly "remark
Please dont tell me they're still upset over the "police acted stupidly "remark
The news media.
I would say 'ass whooping' is slightly hyperbolic for someone who is currently ~90% of target delegate count per 538.
Bernie is assuredly resonating with sections of the Democrat party that weren't thought to be possible when he started his campaign.
BoboBrazil
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That Michigan win made a lot of the Bernie supporters become more obnoxious. They are trying to find anything they can burn her at the cross for. Only a couple more days until Tuesday.
User 463088
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Gallup has Obama's approval at 51/44.
Yaaaasssssss.
Yaaaasssssss.
Macho Madness
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So it was kind of what I thought it was: https://twitter.com/danmericacnn/status/708736885993017344
She was the face of the reform, while Sanders wasn't. Still, stop trying to score points over Bernie on healthcare. It's not worth it at this point and you'll have to clarify it every time. Stop stepping on landmines. People already don't like you, don't give them more reasons. People don't give you the benefit of the doubt.
She was the face of the reform, while Sanders wasn't. Still, stop trying to score points over Bernie on healthcare. It's not worth it at this point and you'll have to clarify it every time. Stop stepping on landmines. People already don't like you, don't give them more reasons. People don't give you the benefit of the doubt.
Well, 86%, not 90%. But this isn't the Republican race. There are no winner-take-all races for Bernie to makeup this delegate chasm. It's a larger gap than Obama ever had over Hillary in 2008 (120 delegates).
Also, it's the Democratic Party.
Black Republican
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Florida gonna be an all nighter isn't it?
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Also, Bernie's even further behind on the Cook Report Scorecard.
Hillary's at 129%
Bernie's at 76%
"Hillary can't seem to win even against a Communist!"
Mwahahaahahaha.
Hillary's at 129%
Bernie's at 76%
"Hillary can't seem to win even against a Communist!"
Mwahahaahahaha.
He's 86%... To Hillary's 113% in a contest where there are no winner-take-all States.
~90%≠90%
I'm well aware, simply pointing out the word choice was a bit absurd.
There's no reason to say ~90% and round up 4% (which is an extremely important amount when we're talking about 2000 delegates) when you have the number right there in front of you.
It is, as one could may take issue with, "an ass-whooping".
I think a 220 delegate lead by March 15 counts as an asswhooping. Hillary can flop around until the end now and still win. That's how big her whooping was. Now obviously she won't do that. But the lead is even bigger than the one Obama at at this point.
IMO the only material contraction will come in April as all the caucuses and plains states vote. She's going to lose 60/40 in every contest.
IMO the only material contraction will come in April as all the caucuses and plains states vote. She's going to lose 60/40 in every contest.
It's not absurd. It's a well documented slight on the Democratic Party. It is meant to be demeaning.
I knew that would happen and Im probably a communist in the eyes of the GOP.
Forgot where I was for a minute all hail the queen
This is so dumb. If you want to actually have a discussion and defend your points of you, do that. Don't hide behind "lol PoliGAF Hil hivemind". This is a discussion board. I responded to your points. If you have issues with what I posted, then tell me.
theprodigy
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a scorecard that factors in superdelegates as if they wouldn't switch over if she actually lost the pledged delegate lead?
yeah trying to assure yourself with superdelegates is getting annoying, not to mention entirely unnecessary
adamsappel
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My google-fu isn't good enough to find it now, but when "Hillarycare" was defeated, Bernie blamed himself. He apologized to Bill Clinton and said instead of an avowed Socialist agreeing with the plan, he should have railed against it for not being progressive enough. He thought he made it easier to demonize by agreeing with it.
Avon Barksdale
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I'm still amazed that the Bern fans still despise Hillary with Trump being in this race.
BoboBrazil
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Bernie is the cause of the hatred with his attacks on her.
Bernie's only hope is that superdelegates switch to him after he racks up some wins, even though he will be behind in pledged delegates. And this is his explicit strategy now.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Uhhhhhhhh, this is a terrible understanding of 1968 since violent protests sunk George Wallace.
User 463088
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Assuming a 60/40 Bernie split in all the caucuses/primaries that run through April 9th, Bernie will net somewhere around 66 delegates. Based on current polling, Hillary will be able to nearly wipe out that entire gain in Maryland on April 26th.
I'm not trying to assure myself with superdelegates.
Hillary has a 225 pledged delegate advantage. If Hillary has one single pledged delegate more than Bernie, she will be the nominee. Period. They will not abandon ship to tie themselves to Bernie Sanders. You may not like Superdelegates, but they are part of the primary, and the only way to win is through them. Bernie could have tried making nice with them, instead of throwing huge swaths of the Democratic Party under the bus.
Translation: Our racist base got really upset at a black guy being president.
theprodigy
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I'm not saying that.
If, on the other hand, Sanders ends up with more pledged delegates, expecting the current superdelegate situation to hold is stupid.
Knuckle Sandwich
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He stoked racists' fears by being elected.
none of us are assuming that. We know how the game works.
If there's anyone around who still thinks we're heading for a repeat of the 2008 election but in reverse, keep in mind that George W. Bush was at 32% approval / 64% disapproval at this point in his Presidency.
But his strategy now seems to be to win via superdelegates.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us/politics/bernie-sanders.html
I think it is telling that many Bernie supporters are whining about Superdelegates over the last few months. It indicates that they were completely uninformed about the democratic primary system until they read about the "anti-democratic Superdelegate" system on Reddit. I have been on r/politics for two years and I never saw these threads about how evil and Undemocratic it is until recently. If they had a problem with it, the course of action would have been to complain about it last year or hell 2014 would have been better.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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lol
theprodigy
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wait what
LMAO that's not gonna work
also no you and adam have been including superdelegates in posts throughout, such as here:
(it's 54% among pledged delegates)
Macho Madness
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That would be going against the people's choice. Un-Democratic!
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