Tranqueris
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Hmm lawsuits? This should be an interesting section, oh..
Jill Stein.
Jill Stein.
Gary Johnson.
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Hmm lawsuits? This should be an interesting section, oh..
Jill Stein.
Jill Stein.
Gary Johnson.
RustyNails
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Ryan wants to probably bury his head in the sand and hope the next 3 months just disappear from his calendar.
It's amazing to me that no one had the courage to say these words until now. What he's saying is absolutely correct. We're headed for a total chaos when this fascist wants to ban the next group he deems dangerous.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Gary Johnson: *Takes a huge hit on the debate stage* "Woah... Chemtrails in this building and... our water and-my hands, have you seen them before... I think I forgot something wh-Trump is a pussy, that's it!"
Jill Stein: "This dumb bitch Hillary Clinton, and I can say that because I'm a woman and a leftist, she doesn't get the best way to stop climate change is to make sure that we stop using nuclear power so that we have to using way more coal. Also, fluoride in water is bad!"
... Can't see how this would be helpful for Trump if Hillary looks like the only sane person up there.
I don't see what's wrong with Ryan saying he doesn't support Trump. It's ok man. You can say it.
neurosisxeno
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He's the leader of the Republican House. If he comes out and says he doesn't support their parties nominee it sends a bad signal. It indicates that the Republicans have lost control, and completely destroys any chance of joint appearances for down ticket races--not that I think many of them want Trump and Pence there to stump for them...
Fuck it. Have some dignity. Because this man literally has the potential to destroy their party if he loses in November.
Basileus777
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It'd be worse in that Trump would go scorched earth and wouldn't let Ryan repudiate him without answer.
matthewwhatever
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Those results are totally out of line with what a Canadian polling company found back in May:
Admittedly, our pollsters don't have the greatest track records generally, but that seems about in line with general sentiment up here. The Conservatives only got about 30% in our election last fall, and that poll found that Trump wouldn't even crack 40% with them.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Probably nothing, but from twitter:
@Bencjacobs (Political reporter for The Guardian)
Trump is now complaining "we pay rent for our base to Saudi Arabia"
@yarotrof (Greater Middle East columnist of The Wall Street Journal)
If there is now a US military base in Saudi, it is classified and mentioning it should have legal consequences.
@Bencjacobs (Political reporter for The Guardian)
Trump is now complaining "we pay rent for our base to Saudi Arabia"
@yarotrof (Greater Middle East columnist of The Wall Street Journal)
If there is now a US military base in Saudi, it is classified and mentioning it should have legal consequences.
Bam Bam Baklava
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That would explain why those nutjob delegates began chanting shit at the mention of Bin Laden at the convention.
balladofwindfishes
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I doubt he knows of a classified base, unless briefings already started?
If they did and this is top secret, it'll be fun
DrForester
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No clue how reliable this site is, but apparently Trump is already leaking classified info.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...efing-trump-likely-leaked-classified-secrets/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...efing-trump-likely-leaked-classified-secrets/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
So that Tweet earlier from the yam about how "Hillary is a loose cannon", shouldn't have access to intel, etc?
This tweet from the Art of the Deal ghostwriter seems to nail it.
https://twitter.com/tonyschwartz/status/758340772194312193
This tweet from the Art of the Deal ghostwriter seems to nail it.
https://twitter.com/tonyschwartz/status/758340772194312193
I have never wanted a secret military base in Saudi Arabia more in my life.
BrokenFiction
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I'd lose my shit if Trump leaked classified information on the first day of his briefings.
I would put good money that Trump doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about and is just blowing a bunch of BS in the air for some point or to look important.
I highly doubt he has this info.
Still, that should scare everyone that he is perfectly fine with making up a bunch of bullshit and saying it out-loud when that bullshit, if true, would be a government secret.
RustyNails
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I mean we have bases in saudi arabia, that's common knowledge. There's enough latitude for him to easily skate this one.
Projection is often a prominent trait among conservatives/Republicans. Trump just makes it incredibly obvious.
According to WSJ's reporter for the ME that would be classified info though and would automatically come with penalties.
I think it is all a bunch of BS, but I trust that WSJ to know the consequences of that.
THIS.
I mean, I don't want anyone to get hurt from this (aside from Trump, of course), but holy shit would this be entertaining to see the fallout.
Even if this is true, if he got the information from a briefing, it's unlikely he'd stop there with the random blurting out of US secrets. The man has no self-control.
Basileus777
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I don't know why we're jumping to classified information when this is a guy who thought Tim Kaine was governor of New Jersey.
He's either spilling secret info or he's talking out his ass again. Hard to say.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mp-hillary-clinton-hits-back-at-controversies
The first debate is 9/26 (a Monday) and the second is 10/9 (a Sunday), so they will presumably occur opposite NFL games.
That said, starting in the beginning of September there will be NFL/college football games essentially every Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, so how the CPD would avoid scheduling against football.
Brawndo Addict
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I thought we still had a base there too so that's just Trump complaining about everything he can remember from any time period.
NYCmetsfan
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Officerrob
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So he's either an idiot (for leaking classified info), or an idiot (for not realizing the last base there was closed over a decade ago)
BrokenFiction
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SAD!
Who says the most recent report they gave him listed all our bases? It might have just referenced the one in Saudi Arabia.
Pretty sure the briefings have not happened yet. Read somewhere they were going to take place in either a few days or a few weeks after both conventions are over.
Even if they were to give them ASAP, I highly doubt he would have had one today.
I'm waiting to see if there is any marked change in tone after the briefings though. Would be a bit interesting if there was.
Even if they were to give them ASAP, I highly doubt he would have had one today.
I'm waiting to see if there is any marked change in tone after the briefings though. Would be a bit interesting if there was.
DrForester
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"We're going to win so big we're going to make the Denver Broncos wins not look so big with their win percentage." ~ Donald Trump in Denver this evening
Then it would be on par with Clinton's emails about drone strikes; so, yeah, a strong response from the FBI without prosecution.
Amibguous Cad
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Trump isn't far right. He's anti-free trade, once proposed the largest tax hike in American history, significantly to the left of anyone in his party on health care, isolationist, pro-Russia, anti-NATO, moderate on abortion rights, the list goes on. I mean, he's not centrist or leftist, either. His brand of populism is kind of sui generis and defies easy political categorization. And it's precisely that the various interest groups in the Republican party are willing to defect against their party when they're not pursuing their interests that there are so many Republican NeverTrumpers.
It's not something the left is likely to repeat, and even if they succeed in getting an outsider nominated it's going to be someone like Sanders rather than a proto-tankie or whatever the communist equivalent of proto-fascist is.
The real analogy is to the tea party which, yeah, should be a model for far-left organizing going forward. The next time Democrats are tempted to sign off on some latter day Melian expedition I want them quaking in their boots about a primary challenge from a Bernie-branded leftist.
..That's not likely to happen because the far left is pretty cynical about electoral politics and never seems to show up for midterms, much less primaries for state representatives, but if anyone can make it happen it's Bernie.
No. I never advocated for accelerationism. I'm hoping the Republicans nominate people better than Trump going forward because they're going to win at least a few elections, and if they are I'd much rather it be Romney than Trump.
She's hardly the candidate for everyone. This is still the candidate that is neck and neck with Barry Goldwater for favorability ratings. Throughout the entire primary season, in a head-to-head matchup with the opposing party's presumptive nominee, she was trailing five points behind a self-identified socialist that had nice things to say about Castro and the Sandinistas (yes, Bernie would have tanked the moment the attack machine revved up and been in an even worse position than Hillary, but attack machine or no that polling is atrocious). She's turned what should be the easiest layup in American electoral history into a tossup. She's as unelectable as McGovern, and if she makes the White House it will only be because the Republicans were feeling mildly more suicidal than the Democrats this cycle.
huh?
What win margin would be required for you to view her presidency as legitimate, or is there any such margin?
whyamihere
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I hope that Rachel Platten is on stage when Hillary wins.
EDIT: A recent poll had Obama up only 4 over Trump in Ohio in a hypothetical matchup. Spare me the lecture about how she's the only one who could lose this election.
EDIT: A recent poll had Obama up only 4 over Trump in Ohio in a hypothetical matchup. Spare me the lecture about how she's the only one who could lose this election.
This is staggeringly incorrect. Trump is easy to categorize. He's a white nationalist fascist. All of his policies fit perfectly into that bucket.
This is also completely wrong. The NeverTrumpers exist because they know that their party was taken over by a white nationalist fascist. That is bad! More to the point it's disqualifying for Republicans who associate with him in future elections.
Since everything you understand above about the currently political situation is wrong, unsurprisingly, this is also wrong. Ideological crusades are exactly how the Republican party got led out onto a limb that the rest of America won't go out on, which weakened their institutional control to the point that their underlying white nationalism became the dominant force. It's part of the party realignment currently taking place. I have no idea why people feel the desire to accelerate the Democratic Party's downfall by insisting on ideological persecution of Democratic politicians when all the evidence shows they're going to move left along with the rest of the country.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Where is this poll?
Problem is they literally can't prosecute him right now. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories and absolute insanity from the right about making him a "political prisoner" I would expect militia groups in the streets that night.
DrForester
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About that skipping the debates thing...
Out of curiosity, are they up against NFL games? I thought they tried to avoid that.
Out of curiosity, are they up against NFL games? I thought they tried to avoid that.
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