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They weren't able to justify it for 7-8 months, but they did it anyways.
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They weren't able to justify it for 7-8 months, but they did it anyways.
Doc Holliday
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He is so bitter, He basically said it was mistake for the Democratic Party to pick Hillary over Bernie.
He's ignoring all the polls and evidence and going with his gut.
BrokenFiction
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Lock Her Up! LOCKHERUP #lockherup
Joe Shlabotnik
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Emailgate is essentially two separate issues that metastasized when brought together:
- Clinton used an e-mail account hosted on a private server as SoS. Though there is no evidence that her server was ever compromised (and, ironically, that state.gov was), it was a potential security and transparency concern.
- Some material that passed through her account was either retroactively considered classified or, in a very very few instances, considered classified at the time. Nobody would have ever known or given a flying fuck about this if not for the stink raised by the Benghazi investigation and having to retrieve the emails from her private server.
He's not going with his gut, he's going with his salt.
He's still in denial mode.
Don't forget that it is highly probable that classified information has probably been passed through numerous Congress people's servers considering they can have private servers for public work BUT we can't know for sure because they are exempt from FOIA laws.
Which doesn't feel like a double standard at all. Totally fair.
I love how Stephanopoulos specifically said "If the election were held to today, how'd it turn out?" and Jonathan Karl went out of his way to find the only 269/269 scenario that exists ignoring all of the current polling averages. Shameless horse racing.
hipsterpants
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Are we seeing a major party realignment right now? Trump is giving the Dems an easy opening to be the pro-America and pro-Military except more in the we can work to be greater and support our troops kind of way rather than the why aren't you wearing an American flag pin and let's bomb the shit out of Iran kind of way.
The Trump true believers are clearly the dominating force in the GOP and I can't see that changing in four years. You just know some new asshole is going to run on a similar racist platform and out yell the less crazy people.
The Trump true believers are clearly the dominating force in the GOP and I can't see that changing in four years. You just know some new asshole is going to run on a similar racist platform and out yell the less crazy people.
Kate is quickly becoming new bae. Sometimes she's too soft and CNN-Y, but when she's feeling it, she definitely goes all in.
Yeah, she's snarky as fuck. I love it.
The Lamonster
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Kasich, McCain etc. should just come out and endorse Clinton.
McCain is in a tough race, if the DNC pulled out and gave him the latitude he probably would. But right now he needs to keep his base happy and be sure they turn out for him. His support of Trump is likely cravenly political given the circumstances of his race.
Kasich on the other hand isn't nearly as moderate as he pretends to be. He's pretty goddamn hardcore and likely the only issues he has with Trump is the insults and him not using the dogwhistles.
Ignatz Mouse
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McCain is so fucked on this issue. Short of going-all Trump, he pisses of all the white nationalists in his state during a close election.
So what's a good defense Hillary can muster for this the next time she's asked about it? Cause that Fox News interview was kinda bad.
Link?
Yeah I was rolling my eyes pretty hard at that as well.
It would take a far more talented politician than her to pull such an answer off. If it were Bill or Obama they'd be fine, anyone short of that is screwed.
Dubbedinenglish
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What's the latest polling on McCain's seat?
I really think Clinton just needs to admit wrong doing, say she trusts the FBI investigation including their statements on her not being truthful in public, and she's sorry she fucked up. She needs to avoid getting into the weeds of the issue even if she is right because it makes her look shady as hell.
This whole thing is a witch hunt, it is not fair, and (per the Bush Email Scandal) once again, Clinton is held to a different standard than Republicans, but that's life. The way to neutralize it is stop making statements that contradict Comey.
User 463088
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https://twitter.com/TheBriefing2016/status/760125457815703553
Holy shit this cracked me up.
It's a video of Trump saying he wants to get rid of the cables and emails and shit for the military.
Holy shit this cracked me up.
It's a video of Trump saying he wants to get rid of the cables and emails and shit for the military.
She's already apologized and admitted she's fucked up though. The fact is that's not nearly enough to make it go away because there's nothing else for them to talk about with her. With Obama they could go on about his inexperience, the only complaint they have on Clinton is the e-mails.
Even on the second instance, the only two e-mails that passed through Hillary Clinton's inbox that were classified were improperly marked by the sender.
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She has apologized. She said she shouldn't have used a private email server.
The emails that were marked classified were absolutely stupid as heck. There was no way they should have been classified, nor were they marked correctly. Her best line of defense is the "They shouldn't have been marked classified, and there are real issues with how the state department classifies information."
Yeah I mean, she definitely circumvented governmental norms in a very cavalier way. But remember this all started after she asked the NSA for a secure Blackberry and they told her to pound sand. What she should have done is just setup a notorioushrc@gmail.com account and used that instead. It would have 100x more secure than any private server.
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The thing is, she likely didn't circumvent "norms".
It's how the Bush administration did things, and congressmen and senators and their staff almost all have their own e-mail servers, including those who have clearance for classified information.
The real point is, we have a cyber security issue at all levels of US government, and Hillary definitely was part of that and made poor decisions, but if anyone really gave a flying fuck about national security we would be thinking of solutions to systemic issues.
StormBrute
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It is miraculous how quickly opinion on Kaine shifted. The dad meme really helped give him a quick, solid characterization.
DataStream
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Clinton should just offer McCain SoD in exchange for a flat out endorsement.
nature boy
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If only this happened earlier.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Yup. I think a good answer would involve all or some of the following points:
It's a mistake, as she admitted.
She has been truthful to the best of her knowledge. Any contradictions, ie. classified material were honest mistakes as a result of the retroactive classification of some of those materials.
Most (all?) material retroactively classified was *sent* to her. It's material she would've received over the insecure SoS server, which *was* hacked. Private server adds no additional concerns over national security than the ones she already said should be addressed.
Illegal.
AntraxSuicide
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Our military could be making the shift from "kicking ass and taking names" to a more humanitarian image in the country. I know a lot of military folks from working as a contractor, and they're not at all happy with Trump's constant "Our military is a joke" thing.
DataStream
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The VFW speaking out is pretty remarkable.
That's a little more than slightly illegal. Now if she shrugged her shoulder and added a slight inflection to her voice indicating a "maybe" while making the offer then that's legal.
RustyNails
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Goddamit. I missed benji's shit.
If only this happened earlier.
You mean with McCain? He's a grown man, he can defend his spineless self.
User 463088
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The VFW statement is good but Trump doesn't know what sacrosanct means. He probably thinks it's a competing golf course in Scotland.
DataStream
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Yeah yeah...
"I think I'll have a very diverse and experienced cabinet. There certainly are people from the Republican side of the aisle, John McCain comes to mind, who would provide valuable insight and an alternate viewpoint."
User 463088
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Just, for the record, John McCain and Hillary supposedly like each other a lot. In 2008, they both said if they ended up running against each other it would be the nicest, most civil election ever.
nature boy
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No, both candidates spoke at the VFW last week I believe.
It seems (could be wrong) that Trump got a better reception than Hillary.
Slurpy2k20
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Just in case anyone here mistakenly thought we've scrapped the bottom of the barrel..
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art...an_as_Muslim_Brotherhood_Plant/comments/#ctop
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art...an_as_Muslim_Brotherhood_Plant/comments/#ctop
Roland_Gunner
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Sally Bradshaw, one of the authors of the RNC's 2012 autopsy is leaving the party. The GOP losing a batch of its non-crazy staff is becoming a real story here.
Felix Lighter
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I don't want McCain as SoD. He is all too willing to send troops when it comes to foreign conflicts. He can sweat out his Senate race, while Trump pisses on him day after day.
DataStream
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To be fair though, McCain has changed a lot since 2008. Can't say for sure if that's still the case
I'm actually waiting for conservatives to go spy through Khan's windows to see if he has granite countertops
okay this reference was probably too dank for you guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Frost
okay this reference was probably too dank for you guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Frost
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